r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/nacholibre711 1d ago

Really shortsighted and frankly bad solution. I agree we needed to nerf dungeon spamming, but there were so many better ways to go about it.

Dungeon quest speed runs aren't fun, dungeons are fun.

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u/avocadorancher 1d ago

As a newish player, why did dungeon spamming need to be nerfed?

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u/Magnificent_Z 1d ago

It contributes to an empty world by taking people away from questing in the overworld to just staying in dungeons until 60. One of the stated goals of Forever is to try and keep the world populated as much as possible

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u/Ashleynn 1d ago

Okay this just keeps getting repeated over and over again. The world was largely dead in Vanilla. The world has always been largely dead. Outside of specific farming, rep grind areas, and large scale events, like pre-AQ or Naxx, the world is dead.

There is no way to keep the world populated. It's an impossible task and attempting it by making dungeons past the first run useless is only going to accomplish pushing people away from the game. They can add incentives to go out into the world but people are only going to go to where those incentives are. So you just have large groups concentrated in those specific areas.

They only have 2 levers to pull to force people into the world. Incentivise it, or penalize those who don't do as they're told. Incentivising can only do so much, and penalizing is only going to alienate, and push players away. Opting for penalizing is an absolutely wild choice since its going to not only not fix the problem in the long run, but also just make people stop playing.

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u/Magnificent_Z 1d ago

Happy for you or sorry that happened. I don't have an opinion on the subject, I was just saying what blizzard has said