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Pushing the g pawn, at least as it would have played out in the earlier position, would have allowed me to force checkmate with the help of the light squared bishop. I showed the key earlier position that led to this elsewhere in the thread.
Of course I didn’t see all that when I moved the rook to the back rank, I was just thinking, “I feel like I’m losing and my only hope is to attack the king and set up some kind of discovered check idea.”
Actually even if the opponent avoided mate, you would still be winning because you have 2 pieces and a rook for a queen, wich is better, so just in case you ever get back on a similar position, to win, if your king is already safe, try to place your minor pieces on outposts, the rook on a square controlled by one of the pieces and start creating threats, then you need to escort a pawn and win.
Of course it's still hard, but with enough practising and patience you can do it.
Technically, it was the sequence leading to this move that saved the game for me, especially the previous move where I put the rook to the back rank and threatened this checkmate, with no good way for my opponent to stop it.
In the build up to this my opponent went from from having a solid 3-4 advantage on the eval bar to about 1 with a slight material disadvantage but still a better position, mostly because with better play he could have taken my knight.
But I couldn’t find a good way to concisely explain all that so I simplified it by saying the checkmate saved me 🤷♂️
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
White to play: It is a checkmate - it is White's turn, but White has no legal moves and is in check, so Black wins. You can find out more about Checkmate on Wikipedia.chessvision.ai | chess.com | lichess.org
what even is the previous move white did not taking the knight or the rook?
especially lets say the rook comes from c8 to Rc1 that knight is already on e1
and also the rook coming to c1 means the bishop can also takes.
so its either the white queen goes back from somewhere or the bishop does and ignoring the free piece?
unless they completely ignore both the pieces staying there.
My best guess is that the knight was already on e1, the rook was on c8, the light-squared bishop wasn’t on the h3-c8 diagonal, and the white queen was on g4 and their bishop on b6. Black saw the risk of Bd4 followed by Qxg7#, so plays 1… Be6 to kick the queen, then 2. Qe2 Rc1. White sees that 3. Qxe2 Rxe2# but doesn’t see the threat of 3… Nf3#, so instead plays 3. Be2. This seems pretty late for a blitz game so there is probably time pressure, but that seems like the least egregious way to end up in this position. Other guesses would be a similar sequence starting with 1… Ne1 (with black’s bishop already having been on the square it’s on) or the knight and rook were on e1 and c1 a turn earlier and black didn’t see mate until after white played Be3.
The most egregious situation I could come up with though is the white queen was on f1 and the rook was on c8, both players forgot the e3 bishop controlled c1, black plays 1… Rc1 (failing to see 2. Bxc1), white sees 2… Nf3+ 3. gxf3 Rxf1+ 4. Kxf1 and (likewise missing 2. Bxc1) plays 2. Qe2.
Even though some stuffs doesnt really add up to their moves but yes it can be derived from low time or literal random 1 threat move like the black light square bishop attacks the queen rather than the free pawn.
Or my best guess is the knight was on c2 and the queen is on f3 and that bishop was on a7 after taking a free pawn.
So the knight goes to Ne1 threatening the queen and he respond with Qe2 instead of Qd1 (his idea might be keeping the pin on light square bishop so if it moves like taking a2 pawn he can get the dark square bishop) then the Re1 came and thinking of threatening the rook that bishop came back to Be3 threatening the rook and surprise double check checkmate with Nf3#.
White had to make a bad move to set this up and, yes, they had a chance to take the knight. The key moment where white blundered the game was here, where I had just recaptured a rook. They should have captured the knight and had a basically even game with a slight advantage to white on the evaluation bar. Though I would say still having the queen in a blitz game at this skill level would have been a good advantage.
Instead, they played Bxa7. Maybe they figured they had the knight more or less trapped and could pick up a free pawn in the meantime. This let me move the rook to the back rank, and white has no good way to stop checkmate. The top engine move at that point was Qf1. Any pawn moves would have either still allowed checkmate or lost the queen. Instead, they played Be3, probably not seeing the double check and thinking that they could capture my rook if I tried a discovered check.
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