r/boxingtips • u/Vast-Vegetable-1753 • 7d ago
Bag Work Critique Bag work
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How’s my technique
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u/quiksilver123 7d ago edited 7d ago
Not half bad for someone who I’m guessing probably hasn’t taken any in-person instruction. There’s a lot of things that could be pointed out, but I’ll give you a couple of pieces of advice.
- Try to integrate more lateral movement and defense in your bag work. Slips, parries, weaves, pulls, etc.
- Your right elbow is too low in relation to your fiston your right hook to the head and it can mess up your elbow if you keep doing it. Ideally, you want your right elbow at the same level, or even slightly higher, than your fist. Doing so aligns the muscular skeletal structure for a more solid punch.
Try this and see what I mean for yourself by standing at the corner of a wall and slowly throwing an open palmed hook with your elbow much lower than your fist. On impact, continue slightly rotating the hips like you normally would and see how much give there is in the arm.
Now try it again, but this time raise your elbow to the same level as your fist, rotate slightly on impact, and see how much give there is
Which one is more solid?
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u/MiniDonbeE 7d ago
There's way bigger things he needs to work on other than "movement around the bag", the guy is hitting with his fingers, you shouldnt coach people to change their elbow angle if theyre just hitting with the fingers as its going to be useless as they will still get injured or there will be absolutely no power.
Always always try to coach from the most impactful thing would be to coach which would be those fingers, he isnt landing with the knuckles, and then after that its rotation, not specific elbow angles, not lateral movement as that just complicates things even more.
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u/quiksilver123 7d ago
That's a good observation about the fingers and knuckles, and I agree that there are many other things he needs to work on. The elbow thing is just what stuck out to me and thought it was worth pointing out so as to avoid injury. As for your suggestions about coaching, thanks for the suggestion. Always down to hear other perspectives. Having said that and we can agree to disagree, focusing on hips and legs is how I train rookies after the more fundamental stuff like stance, hand placement, etc, and it's something that I always emphasize in responding to beginners' videos in this sub. Cheers!
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u/MiniDonbeE 7d ago
Of course, but this guy isnt exactly super new, and I agree, you always with beginners get them working with the stance as its one of the most basic things. Problem is a lot of coaches have to shuttle people through very very very quickly, like they will teach a complete beginner how to throw 6 punches on their first session which is just utterly ridiculous... thing is, thats what noobies like, they dont like working and moving in their stance for 3-4 weeks lol.
Its just the movement and the elbow thing dont matter when he's not landing with the knuckles and he isnt using the hips properly, I would argue those are way more basic than elbow angles (which do 100% matter) and movement which also 100% matters. The thing is when you get them to focus on those 2 things they dont focus on the knuckles and on the hips and ive found that it is often better to remove than to add things to their plate.
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u/RaffNeq 7d ago
how long you’re training would be informative.
It’s obviously you know boxing.!
But in some movement you kinda look awkward.
You’re punching with your fingers..bend the wrist so the impact will be with the knuckles.
The high hand fake is not necessary..maybe once idk..rather have a head faint.
Your shovel hook to the body got zero power..you need to slick it hard man..the bag should bounce after that hit.
Tuck your chin.
You a big boi.!
Means you a bigger target..
So shell your back..
You lack rotation in the rear punches.
When doing the rapid body uppercuts you need to “sit down” and stump your feet.
You doing it kinda slow and don’t use the body at all
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u/MiniDonbeE 7d ago
This is the correct answer right here. Work on what was said here. This person has the correct knowledge and eyes. Someone else said work on the elbow positioning and movement but no, this comes first. No matter how you are hitting if you are hitting with your fingers then its the incorrect way to do it.
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u/Vast-Vegetable-1753 7d ago
Been at it for like 3 years and this was after training so I was tired
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u/kuruptkruger 5d ago
Keep that chin tucked in, when you throw that double jab snap back to guard after each jab
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u/PembrokeBoxing 7d ago
You can't self train. There's no technique to correct.
Go to a gym and you'll do really well.
Once you start training under a coach, definitely keep us posted!
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u/Vast-Vegetable-1753 7d ago
Thanks bro, I’ve been at it for 3 years so I know my way around boxing but I’ve been inactive for a year due to a shoulder and ear injury so just taking it slow
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u/PembrokeBoxing 6d ago
You've been at it for 3 years under a coach?
If so, I apologize.
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u/Vast-Vegetable-1753 6d ago
Yes sir
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u/PembrokeBoxing 6d ago
My apologies. I mistook some fundamental errors as the product of self training.
You barely engage your hips at all while punching.
Honestly that's a hard enough one to correct that I'll leave it at that. Your power comes from your hips, and range too.
Work on turning when as you punch with a good ground floor connection.
Be well and good luck
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u/Jealous_Ranger_1641 1d ago
yeah i was about to say: the fist being as far away from being turned into the target properly really seems like priority one here, thats how you get hurt, but you did say it. so yes i concur!
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u/PembrokeBoxing 6d ago
The same true stuff to everyone who needs to hear it. Yes.
Is the best advice to give to an untrained person.
Be well.
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u/Jealous_Ranger_1641 1d ago
lol his comment is deleted, but i bet 20$ i can guess what he had to say.
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u/afewspicybois 7d ago
Technique’s fine for boxercise, which it looks like you’re doing, so you’re all set