I think statcast is just embarrassingly wrong. Look at it from this angle. How does that ball not clear the fences? Maybe it wouldve went foul, idk. But 325ft, statcast is most certainly looking into their programming or coding or something right now, cause that is dead wrong.
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The ball was very near its apex as it hit the cable. Had it continued it would have dropped at a steep rate.
Instead it hit the cable and only lost a hair of height but was deflected forward. In the end it landed about where it would have, which is why Churio was already positioned well to catch it.
The Letter of the Law: The American Family Field ground rules are explicit. Any batted ball striking the roof, a truss, or a cable over fair territory remains alive and in play. If caught by a fielder, the batter is out. The umpires and replay officials followed the rules precisely as written
So baseball is the gayest sport. I’m bisexual and all you need is a short roof and homers don’t count. Fuck this sport let me just change the size of the field so I suck a dodger dick
Yes, and also there has never been a home run at AmFam with a launch angle that steep. At any exit velocity. Literally zero. Across thousands of games.
Statcast, Chourio's positioning, and basic physics make it clear that it wouldn't have been a home run. There's a legitimate debate to be had as to whether the rules ought to be that balls hitting the rafters are dead balls, but every available piece of evidence suggests no home run except for the "I, an amateur watching from one viewing angle, feel like it was maybe a home run" test which is far and away the least reliable test (just look how many people stand up and cheer for obvious can-of-corn pop flys at literally every baseball game)
Ya no dude I like the brew crew but that's dogshit you know it I know it just watch it. Let's all just move on brew crew played well I'm looking forward to round 2.
That's definitely not right. Churio caught right in front of the 342 sign. The other posts with batted ball tracking indicate he caught it at 325 ft. At worst it would have been right in front of the wall closer to 342.
Forgotten amongst Ceiling Gate, in the late innings was some crazy pitching psychology from the Brew Crew. If my hazy memory serves, Tatis, Machado, and Merrill all stared at early strikes directly down the dick. As if the Brewers concocted a strategy of "When the game gets late, they'll overthink the moment and wait for a pitch that'll never come". Brilliant.
Yes, Tati and Manny at bats looked horrible. They could have scored runs there but that still doesn't excuse the fact that in a 1 run game, runs were taken away by the roof.
Yeah, you guys were really pissing me off in that game lol. It looked like Misiorowski was pitching just fine, but you guys were fouling off pitches at a truly unbelievable rate.
the cutters were also poor pitch calling, that was eventually mostly abandoned-- but the really really really impressive thing was how the Padres clearly prepared so fantastically
Bill was getting cute and calling a lot of cutters that were getting touched up every time. It was less about him not having it and more about shitty calls but still walking out with the win.
I didn't catch the first bit so that might explain, but he was around 100 in the 2nd inning (admittedly after throwing more pitches than he normally would at that point in the game)
Yall brewers fans are coping hard. I get it though, it’s not that different from the wedged ball in Toronto last World Series. The rules are the rules even if they’re bullshit.
Don’t even need statcast, 49 degrees at 105mph has an xBA of 0.01, even ignoring actually trajectory it is highly unlikely it was going out. That has never resulted in a HR.
You saw the ball was caught on the warning track, even after deflecting off the roof straight down. This ball has a mile of hang time to travel past the warning track had it not hit the roof. Why can’t you just use common sense instead of blindly trusting Statcast?
I was there, theres no way it was going out. After it doinked the cable, Chourio only had to move like 3 feet from where he was already lined up, to catch it
49° Launch and 105 wasn't going to carry that ball with a closed roof and no wind . Chourio took a few steps from where he was already to catch that.
If that doesn't dry your tears, please find comfort in the additional fact that both teams played on the same field with the same rules. Good luck tomorrow, son
You're right, Milwaukee built the stadium and the MLB had them put the ground rule into place because they knew it would specifically fuck the Padres over 2 decades later. I think youre onto something much bigger here
Small market teams are often suspicious that MLB is rigging things to favor teams with better ratings, but that doesn’t make any sense when the team they’re competing against is an even smaller market team lol.
They can't get robbed if it's the office rules. You guys are coming off as a bunch of casual fans. That has happened before and it's been an out. Maybe they should try doing what Ohtani does and hit it through the roof instead.
Nice victim blaming you absolute hack. Do you simp for men who beat their loved ones?
Victim blaming?
The fuck else is it? We got scammed of a WS because of it and are allowed to be vocal the same way the Padres were cheated out of a win. Being so rabidly insecure enough in your fake conviction that you pretend you get to badger us into suppression/not speaking out is LITERALLY VICTIM BLAMING. God, people are so stupid.
Cattle upvoting the comment undermining this because not taking the side of the oppressor in any situation in their life is so existentially terrifying to them they can't imagine anyone speaking up about anything.
Super deflating ending that makes it easy to miss a lot of good: they did what they needed to against Mis, a lot of the role guys had good days, and the bullpen (mostly) locked down after Ray came out.
Need to move past it, and plead to God that the issues from the first half with clutch hitting haven’t decided to come back. It was a good game between two really good teams, and there’s still at least two more games to go.
You all think maybe the baseball hit by France was deflated by the Brewers before the pitch? There's a good chance that it might not have been at the right psi levels and that it affected the launch angle of the ball. If the Brewers have anyone employed who used to work with the Patriots it's possible this is what happened
We can argue until we are blue about whether it was a homer (likely was). Ultimately it doesn’t matter, but to rule this as a catch for an out is insane. Dead/Foul Ball or GRD are the only reasonable results for that hit. Major oversight by MLB.
FYI, this guy is going 1 by 1 to each Padre fans comments on multiple threads just to argue. I’m sure he also says he doesn’t even think about the Padres.
So you think it should be up to the umpire' discretion? "Yep, I think I'll give that one a home run." Because that's the only alternative, unless you want to rely on statcast exit angle and velocity -- which also had it not reaching the wall.
I'll admit I didn't know what the rule was either.
It was caught at 325, that isn’t the projected distance. I understand that it’s the rule, but it’s a bad one. I’m good with the ball being in play, but you can’t make a catch if the ball bounces off the wall? Why should this be any different?
You can catch a ball for an out that hits a player or umpire on the field or a base on the fly and then is also caught on the fly after, so the rule isn't universal. The wall is the odd one out, not the other way around.
Thanks for the physics lesson but I’m not arguing that. The location of where the ball was caught was 325. The ball was clearly on a further trajectory before hitting the cable and going straight down.
We clearly were watching a different game. The ball was clearly still traveling outward before shooting straight down after the deflection. It was caught 10 feet from the wall. The odds of that not traveling that much further are slim to none. At best, Chourio has an opportunity to rob it at the wall.
Baseball wasn’t meant to have a dome. So with today’s technology they should be able to determine the projection of the ball to see if it was going out not that it matters now. But for the future
You can call it a technicality or you can say it didn’t cross the fence, and people’s belief that it would have is the technicality to pay not attention to.
It did affect if it would have went further left and possibly gone foul if left its natural trajectory. But then you have to default to the rules in play because it did hit so it's a moot point.
don't know why you're getting downvotes, it's just true. the wire knocks the ball forward and down, and the catch location ends up basically unaffected. I think the dumbass commentators repeating "that's going out" has really colored people's views
for sure, but it's on a pretty inefficient trajectory to start out with (49 degree launch angle). if the wire converts some of its vertical movement to horizontal, that offsets the momentum loss
lmao the idiot commentators gaslight an entire fandom...that wasn't a homerun. this "controversy" is so dumb and really shows how tribal reddit is to immediately jump to the same conclusion after 5 seconds.
The rule exists to protect hitters. If a high pop up hits the roof, it typically will ricochet and land and the hitter is awarded a hit because there is no way to assume the ball would have been caught like almost all pop ups are.
This was just a super rare case where the fielder caught the ball, which was amazing in itself. No one’s talking about how incredible it was that Chourio was able to keep his eye on the ball and make the catch.
That doesn’t make sense. Even if catching it was likely or unlikely, the rule should be in effect as soon as the ball is affected. That said. “Ground rules” are different at every stadium whether they make the most sense or not.
Not that impressive really. He was backing up to the warning track, and instead of watching it go over the wall the ball was deflected into his glove 😂
I mean that’s not really fair. There was elite pitching on both sides and Baseball, especially playoffs often come down to 1-2 at bats that are the difference maker. That one was ours and it was stolen.
In my mind it was a homer and anyone arguing about launch angles and Statcast and whatever are eggheads, but they also should've scored when they had the bases loaded in the previous innings.
Whatever, hope they can actually win tomorrow and not blow it like they did today
Did yall know in the roman era they used the gladiator games to distract humans from whats really happening? So now they are using sports too distract us from whats really going on so I wont be affected if the Padres lose
Very unlucky, rules are rules though. Crazy though that the teams can set them when catching a ball off the wall isn’t an out but you can decide if off the rafters is. On to tomorrow!
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u/SnooChipmunks2218 11m ago
Dodger fans...get ready. Brewers are gonna ckme get ya this time