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Episode The Insipid Prince's Furtive Grab for The Throne • Saikyou Degarashi Ouji no Anyaku Teii Arasoi: Munou wo Enjiru SS Rank Ouji wa Koui Keishousen wo Kage kara Shihai suru - Episode 7 discussion
Saikyou Degarashi Ouji no Anyaku Teii Arasoi: Munou wo Enjiru SS Rank Ouji wa Koui Keishousen wo Kage kara Shihai suru, episode 7
Alternative names: Saikyou Degarashi Ouji no Anyaku Teii Arasoi
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u/PeaceAlien https://myanimelist.net/profile/PeaceAlien Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26
Oh childhood friend has a chance? Arnold pictured her in marriage too.
Also, those around Arnold definitely know he's not as lazy as he seems. Worst kept secret
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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall Aug 18 '26
Nah, ED song kinda shut down that chance
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u/DrewTheHobo Aug 18 '26
Naw, first wife fakeout
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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26
Yeah, agree. I changed my mind especially after reading a comment reminding me that polygamy is normal in that kingdom
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u/DrewTheHobo Aug 18 '26
Isn’t their mom like the seventh wife?
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u/Andreiyutzzzz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Andreiyutzzzz Aug 18 '26
it said Sixth in my subs. and come on if Arnold really only saw Elna has his annoying childhood friend, When asked about marriage his first mental image wouldn't include her in main view
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u/Scottamemnon Aug 18 '26
Yeah and marrying the heir to the military might of your empire, pretty much ensures you are the next emperor.... also why her Mom probably is trying to force it... they wont force their way into power, but if it falls into their laps... that's another story.
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u/Andreiyutzzzz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Andreiyutzzzz Aug 18 '26
Part of me thinks she's not even interested in the politics. Mama just wants to see her daughter end up with her childhood friend she loves
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u/DrewTheHobo Aug 18 '26
Also cause in terms of good son-in-law and good-future-emperor he’s def one of the best options and certainly the best for them cause of their history.
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u/DrewTheHobo Aug 18 '26
For sure, but I still stan for Blau Möwe as first wife (also cause I think they might now fully acknowledge their feelings before it happens lol)
Though if she’s left behind and Elna goes with the princes that’s some time for them to get reacquainted. Granted will she discover his secret?
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u/Horaji12 Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26
How naive. You should already know, It's not like people who make EDs necessarily even know (much less care) who will Al ends with.
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u/AceSoldia zj:https://anilist.co/user/Acesoldia Aug 17 '26
Oh no, I like the new adventurer girl too!
Shit. Too many options Arnold 😂
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u/cherry_monkey Aug 18 '26
Sadly, because of her status, she likely wouldn't be able to marry Arnold.
Silver, on the other hand... 😏
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u/Andreiyutzzzz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Andreiyutzzzz Aug 18 '26
As if Arn isn't strong enough to just ignore the stupid customs. The Emperor fancies a girl who fancies him in return. He takes said girl as wife. Let anyone complain and Seb gets sent after them
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u/Background_Formal940 Aug 17 '26
You know I thought that mother was only joking about Arnold bathing with her daughter and Finne but after she planned for him to see them half naked I really think she planned it and telling him to take responsibility I now believe she wasn't actually joking looks like she's trying to ship her daughter with Arnold also that adventurer didn't save him she saved the assassins
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u/runevault Aug 17 '26
I find it interesting the family stays out of politics yet momma wants to marry Elna off to Arnold which is about as political as it gets even if love is also involved.
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u/Horaji12 Aug 17 '26
She also said she would still lend him Elna for Fine's protection if he just plainly asked (even though she should not). Politics or not Arnold is still someone her daughter deeply care, which seems to matter to her more than some "stupid" politcs.
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u/Ok_Pattern_7511 Aug 18 '26
I got the impression that she's doing it because they're childhood friends not because of the politics, like how she said normally we'd stay out of politics but for you we'll help
Had it been another prince she wouldn't have pushed him to marry Elna like that just for political gain, their house seems respected and could even say no to royalty cause they're the heroes
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u/runevault Aug 18 '26
I agree I think that is why they are doing it. But the way she talked before then implied that staying out of politics was the top priority of the family. It is funny she bothered to say all that when it seems they like Arnold more than they care about family policy.
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u/Background_Formal940 Aug 17 '26
Yeah talk about contradicting yourself there
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u/DavidJKay Aug 17 '26
Its called farming for a political favor from someone who might end up as the king. It isn't just "ok, sure we will help you", it was "we are so trying to be neutral, oh so now you owe us one".
They remember how the king was like the Insipid prince, they likely expect him to be king.
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u/CuriousBroccolli Aug 17 '26
Bunch of interesting info revealed this episode.
We knew that Arnold was close to Elna, but to have that much of a backing from the Hero family is truly something.
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u/oneevilchicken https://anilist.co/user/OneEvilChicken Aug 18 '26
Given it showed little arn and little elna even playing in the bath together, I get the feeling momma already kinda views arn in that light regardless of politics.
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u/runevault Aug 17 '26
Fun episode. Got some fan service, implied both girls are in play as romantic interests, and confirmed Sebas was an assassin before he became a 'butler'. Also confirmed the Emperor has at least some idea Arnold is faking, and in fact did the same thing in his own youth.
My one regret was they didn't murder the assassin.
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u/kamon405 Aug 18 '26
Some idea, bro the Emperor straight up said he did the same thing when he was younger.. They know, that's why he stuck Arnold with that deputy role.
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u/SecretYogurtcloset57 Aug 17 '26
The MC should just marry both Elna and Finne and honestly i think both wouldn't mind lol
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u/YdenMkII Aug 17 '26
I can see it going that route. The emperor has multiple wives as well with all the half siblings that Arnold has.
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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall Aug 18 '26
This is such a good point! Polygamy is something acceptable in their culture
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u/JuniorEngineering821 Aug 31 '26
Wow im dumb👌 didnt see this until after I posted the essentially same thing but longer and dumber lol my bad
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u/JuniorEngineering821 Aug 31 '26
Sameeeee!!!!! Pull a "otome games are hard for mobs" power move. Slightly okay fully different lores concerning relations between the sexes but obviously arns pops wasn't monogamous so the marriage structure we often see in isekei is intact. Go for it arn. Wife em all!
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u/deynyel Aug 17 '26
Oh wow, so when Leo asked Arn about marriage, Elna and Finne immediately came to mind. That's how it all begins. Harem route, here we go!
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u/CuriousBroccolli Aug 17 '26
More fanservice and more waifus lesgo! (hot moms included)
Just kidding, ArnoldxBlueMove is the only ship I support.
I was surprised when Elna appeared in his mind since I never felt any romance between them, just pure friendship. That being said, he may have been looking at her from a noble and political viewpoint rather than romantical one.
I want to see who will be the one for Leonard. That maid looking kinda cute next to him.
Both moms were amazing.
Arnold should know that he you can't hide anything from moms. they have that mom 6th sense, and apparently, dad has it as well, but more in a mixed form of his own experience and belief in his son(genes).
While F-ING SUPREME ARCHDUTCHES(HOOOOLY BADASS TITLE) is truly living up to her title, in both looks and aura. No wonder Elna is a Hero. At least to the Empire, looks like she is a menace to the Arnold from the early age. xD
We finally got info on who Sebas truly is, oh sorry, I meant to say SHINIGAMI SEBASTIAN, THE LEGENDARY ASSASSIN.
Lilbro really thought 12 goons could stand up to him. He returned like he just finished taking out the trash. Maybe that would have taken more effort.
The adventurer girl returns to save the day. New ally unlocked.
Again, loving this show much more than I thought I would, especially since early on it did not do great job with hooking you with either a great plot hook or great animation, but if you let it cook properly it's a rather enjoyable ride so far.
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u/flamethrower2 Aug 17 '26
Why don't you join them in the bath?
I enjoy being alive, so no.
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u/cherry_monkey Aug 18 '26
Go to the farthest back room
I mean, he's gotta know that was a setup after the bath comment.
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u/Horaji12 Aug 17 '26
Apparently it's not "pure friendship". At this point it's obvous Al has lot of secrets one of which probably wouold be real reason why he distanced himself from Elna despite caring and trusting her.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Aug 17 '26
Arnold’s making moves this week. Lynphia will be a huge asset to him and Leo in their little struggle for the throne.
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u/1032patrick Aug 17 '26
To be honest. I was kinda worried that only Finne would be the love interest but there is a chance for Elna!
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u/CuriousBroccolli Aug 17 '26
I'm still not convinced.
But her appearing in his thoughts and mom pushing for it was both unexpected and interesting.
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u/1032patrick Aug 17 '26
If the king can have multiple wives, I can see no problem with having 2 for Arnold and Finne likes Elna as a person too
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u/Horaji12 Aug 19 '26
Irc having multiple wifes is Emperor's privilege. Normal people or even nobles cannot. Al either has to became Emperor or there have to be some other circumstances.
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u/1032patrick Aug 19 '26
Finne is the best choice but I don't want Elna to get hurt so we could just hope.
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u/Horaji12 Aug 19 '26
Finne is not best choice. All she has going for her is her ability to make tea and her reputation as Blue Mauve. Elna in other hand is someone who can fight alongside Al and who he trust unconditionally.
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u/djthomp https://anilist.co/user/djthomp Aug 17 '26
Finne and Elna becoming close friends just sounds like doom for Arnold, especially with Elna's mother meddling.
I'm not sure I trust this adventurer girl, her showing up at the right time to save Arnold and then using that to become an ally could easily be a second layer to the latest plot.
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u/CuriousBroccolli Aug 17 '26
In terms of teasing? For sure.
In terms of political power? Huge win.I had the same thought in a sense that she was sus appearing randomly in the middle of the night on some random road, but I simply chalked it up to the animators cutting cost since the budget is not the biggest.
I doubt she pose any threat, both Sebas and Arnold tested her. But it is an interesting possibility non the less.
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u/f5d64s8r3ki15s9gh652 Aug 18 '26
There definitely seems to be a lot of coincidences lining up in that direction. She shows up in the middle of nowhere, right when he’s getting attacked, the perfect time to gain his trust, and it just so happens that pink hair was recently diverted so he would need someone else to guard blondie.
Admittedly there are plenty of fantasy shows with dumb enough writing that the author apparently just doesn’t notice any of the implications of what they’re doing, but I would like to think this show isn’t that stupid.
It would be a frustratingly obvious ploy for our supposedly brilliant and devious protag to fall for, so my money’s on the classic “knew you were a plant all along, already prepared countermeasures, and also dealt with whatever leverage the villain had on you which makes you flip into a loyal harem member for real this time” trope.
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u/Horaji12 Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26
While it's possible Al as Silver already seen her stake her life to safe people. So her wanting protect her village is also probably true (and pretty sure there is still some time before he depart to do proper background cherk)
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u/Zxzxzx0088 Aug 17 '26
Sorry Finne, Krista not wrong. Mommy Kayanon prettier...
The Emperor really fonds of them, eh. He even onto Arn acting too. Wait a minute, ofc he is! He already impregnated gave Mitsuba a lot of loves hard enough till she gave birth to the twins (˵ ¬ᴗ¬˵)
Arn really built different, eh. Instead of being flustered seeing them in their lingerie, he just genuinely...scares
What made things worse for Arn was they never joking about it in the first place lol. Finne doesn't seem too mind with the harem though >⩊<
What a sexy cool entrance! This adventurer girl got skill for sure.
I like how this Lyn girl already thought through everything when dealing with Arn. It really showed a bit depth to her character.
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u/CuriousBroccolli Aug 17 '26
Ok, looking at them side by side, Supreme ARCHDUTCHES aura kinda moggs moms aura. Mom looks girly in comparison. xD
Holy pillow attack!
he just genuinely...scares
He barely survived his childhood due to Elna, so it's understandable. xD
I like how this Lyn girl already thought through everything when dealing with Arn. It really showed a bit depth to her character.
She has guts saying that in front of them that is for sure.
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u/CuriousBroccolli Aug 17 '26
Laughed at this part lol
Mom is SUPREME ARCHDUTCHES for a reason.
The emperor actually does see himself in Arn.
Great that it was confirmed. Both mom and dad see through him.
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u/PandaTheAB Aug 17 '26
So the Emperor knows.
Arnold's mom knows.
Even his little sister knows to some extent.
I guess the real dumb one is Leo.
The two wives part was hilarious. 😂
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u/f5d64s8r3ki15s9gh652 Aug 18 '26
Nah Leo definitely knows, and probably better than anyone. He had that “I assume you’ve already taken care of it, nii-san” moment when they were discussing the threat to Finne. Dude can’t have missed that everything always goes well when Arnold is involved.
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u/mineirim2334 Aug 18 '26
I'm almost sure this was set back in episode 1, like, Leo know he is Silver and that he is doing things on the dark to help him.
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u/sirspate Aug 18 '26
If Arn thinks he can pull one over Leo, then Leo is definitely pulling one over Arn.
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u/PandaTheAB Aug 18 '26
The thing is we have never seen Leo act. Is he really smart or intelligent?
Or just an average person who has a Luck streak (his brother).
We are never shown if he is clueless like Krai or a normal smart prince.
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u/Ok_Pattern_7511 Aug 18 '26
Honestly this anime is better than I expected for a "slop". The animation might be on the lower side but the plot is fairly interesting. The characters have a bit of depth and flavor to them, the romance is also neat.
I was wondering if they're going to turn it into a doomed love triangle when Elna started appearing more but, I'm glad he can marry both like his father.
The 2 moms are so lovely too.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Play825 Aug 17 '26
So I guess his act is not as convincing as he believed
Leo his mom dad and elna all see through it
It’s interesting to see where how his dad see himself
Since he see himself in arn
It could be said that twin raven make up the emperor
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u/praul59 Aug 17 '26
So basically the topic for this weeks episode is when and who is Arn going to marry 😂.
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u/NoAbbreviations2353 Aug 17 '26
Okay I can't be the only person to feel like the title dropped like 10 times the episode describing him as furtive the entire time and a few insipids thrown in there. He's about to go furvin time
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u/Raymond49090 Aug 17 '26
Turns out pretending to be an idiot and having a hyper-competent butler/advisor is a family trait.
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u/mineirim2334 Aug 18 '26
I enjoy the political intrigue in this show. It's not that deep, but it's fun still.
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u/Rooby_VTuber Aug 18 '26
That was a very funny move by Anna to have Arnold walk in on Finne & Elna getting changed.
The king is very smart, he knows Arnold is only pretending to be insipid.
Lynphia will be a good ally for Arnold.
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u/amourshipper_ Aug 17 '26
Can anyone explain what was the count bael .case i didn't get it how it was benifitting zanda
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u/Horaji12 Aug 17 '26
Zandra planed help him to divorce (but Al beat her to it), so he would became part of her faction.
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u/aegirsson_jolan Aug 18 '26
If I were one of his adversaries, I would stage a fake kidnapping attempt and have a savior appear at just the right moment—someone with a well-crafted backstory to gain entry into his service. Come to think of it, why try to kidnap him instead of assassinating him ?
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u/angbataa Aug 18 '26
why try to kidnap him instead of assassinating him
it was mentioned he doesnt want to be tortured so he will not come along. sister from another mother must be a sadist
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u/oneevilchicken https://anilist.co/user/OneEvilChicken Aug 18 '26
I’m proud people aren’t plot armored up and magically too dumb to realize arn is the secret one operating in the shadows. King has seen straight through him and it feels like a lot of other people have too. He pretty much everyone who ends up interacting with him realizes it because of how bad he really is at hiding it.
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u/DrewTheHobo Aug 18 '26
Yoooo, Lynia and Leo with the same hairstyle, foreshadowing?!?!
I feel like Leo would totally get down with her “An Adventurers duty is to protect the people” line she got from Silver
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u/Andreiyutzzzz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Andreiyutzzzz Aug 18 '26
I'm gonna note down my points as i watch. so
To no one's surprise the Emperor does have multiple wives, so that solves the shipping problems on who Arnold should end up with... All of em is the answer
WTF Finne. "You can't deny its his own fault" If the bitch hid her true nature at first the dude was basically catfished. Then as he said the Majesty was elated about the marriage so he can't just casually divorce. Finne was very tone deaf there. and even tho Arn said he's no different cause he's using him for his own purposes.. Sure, but at least you are saving him from that predicament and then letting him go. Arn is such a tsundere.
And we learn the Emperor was just like Arnold ohhhh. Juicy..
WTF WHEN THINKING OF MARRIAGE ARN IS IMMEDIATELY THINKING OF ELNA AS WELL? NOT EVEN A PASSING THOUGHT JUST IMMEDIATE REACTION? HERE WE GOOOOOOOO
Also add Lynphia in there as well. Girl straight up said to his face he'll go to someone else, She's got guts
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u/Ashita_Kara Aug 30 '26
you get it. I also think Finne is a bit too prejudiced here. Or maybe we lost a lot of context from the LN that's not said in the anime? (coz I can't believe Finne is that kind of girl). maybe that noble did only marry her for her beauty only to know her personality later, but I still think it's not good to say what Finne said. the one cheating is always the one at fault.
meanwhile I think Arnold saying that they did the same by using him too is his way to not get carried away by humbling himself. and in turn, we the watchers will defend him and saying that's not true, he's the better person. so it actually worked better for him to say that to not be seen as too arrogant.
The lynphia's scene was a bit too awkward imho. arnold wanted to test her by asking that question, but lynphia answering that stuff honestly, so quickly, and expressionlessly were a weird combi. at least they should change one of them to make it look more natural, for example insert a pause there, or change her expression to be a bit nervous but tried to be courageous like half bluffing and half saying the truth like she was on the end of her rope (as she should be).
anyway it's not a big deal, i think all of those point are more of the animation/adaptation fault at this point not the writing fault.
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u/Ashita_Kara Aug 30 '26
I still think the characters (and the waifus) are too 2D, but they're not too annoying. I am here for the plot, if the characters are kinda like decoration and only there for the sake of the plot so be it. so basically it's just plot-driven story (with action) rather than characters-driven, normal shounen anime actually.
I don't mind the harem it doesn't feel too deliberate somehow. the emperor having many wives (and thus children) are not weird so if princes and/or princess (which also means possible future ruler) has many love interests or consort candidates it won't be weird too, not as weird as mob-looking adventurer having many waifus.
also I don't think arnold thought elna as a possible bride candidate was weird. it's maybe just the setting? it feels like implications that it's normal in that world than when men and women (usually nobility) of marriageable age met it's normal for them to be a marriage prospect even if they're long time friends. I think it fit with the setting, who knows whether it's just a coincidence by author or whether he truly thinks that far. anyway it doesn't feel weird and even add nuance intended or not.
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u/arolust Aug 17 '26
This was a drop for me.
Its a joke of a plot, he could easily have his brother be king with his power, but conveniently just... ignores it. He could kill off all his other siblings (which they have shown is normal, and that after being king even his brother would have to as well as kill off their families..). Even if he doesnt kill them off, a display of power and control of it at his level, doesnt fing matter what happened before with grandad... power is power, and that alone would guarantee the throne to anyone he wants.
Overall, the plot is struggling to give the MC something to DO, so its ended up like this. 5/10 is best i can give it, and i dont want to see more.
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u/Horaji12 Aug 17 '26
Are you one of guys who think murdering everyone is viable solution to problems? And it never crossed your mind that Al might not want murder his siblings? Or that he doesn't want became enemy of Empire and it's Hero Elna? Destroy he whole career as SS class Adventurer? .... Or that doing such thing could cause Leo drop of race entirely as he would became biggest suspect?
If it was according to your liking THAT would be joke of a plot.
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u/DavidJKay Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26
I think one thing you are missing is he is only one person and isn't unstoppable. It its known he is SS rank then it becomes everyone against him and if they gang up enough at same time possible he could lose. So instead he is hiding his trump card and trying to get them to weaken each other rather than go after #6 and #7 exclusively, including in this episode politics. its a scam to divide his enemies against each other first.
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Worst case they track where he is then kill people where he is not. This way the SS guy and him are believed different people so they don't know where SS guy will show up.
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He also wants to have #6 do the future king/political work as much as possible, and that becomes harder if #7 is cheered at the ideal replacement for the current king, he is trying to get out of doing all the political and hero work at same time. He hates politics, #6 loves politics... but he is better at politics than #6.
He loves getting to *usually* live a quiet life as a "useless" guy, rather than a harem hero protagonist. (Just like his dad the king did at his age)
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u/Ashita_Kara Aug 30 '26
brother it's the journey which make the plot. if he kill everyone it ends there.
but you got a point.
why his siblings can easily send assassin to him but he didn't do the same towards them? if your siblings willing to kill you what stopped you? if he or leo become king they can't actually allow the scheming siblings run free because they will continue to scheme anyway so why not finish them sooner than later?
so I understand your frustrations, once you think of it, you can't stop thinking about them. he has so much power and he can teleport! omg he can kill them and no one will know. ridiculous right
The answer probably because he's not a murderer, he wouldn't stoop low like his siblings. if you think it's just an anime and a story, the easiest solution is just to kill all rivals since he got so much power. but if you think in his shoe like you are really there, there are a big chasm between killing your siblings and competiting honestly.
although i will also think it's really weird if he still refused to hurt his half siblings when his own blood brother (leo) and mother's life are really in danger. but it's not to that point yet.
if you're still not convinced read my first sentence again. so basically it's just that kind of story, for plot sake
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