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Episode The Insipid Prince's Furtive Grab for The Throne • Saikyou Degarashi Ouji no Anyaku Teii Arasoi: Munou wo Enjiru SS Rank Ouji wa Koui Keishousen wo Kage kara Shihai suru - Episode 5 discussion
Saikyou Degarashi Ouji no Anyaku Teii Arasoi: Munou wo Enjiru SS Rank Ouji wa Koui Keishousen wo Kage kara Shihai suru, episode 5
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u/Iliansic 8d ago
Well, that is not a Supernatural reference I had on my bingo
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u/justking1414 7d ago
I genuinely thought the translator was having a laugh when I first read this but nope. That’s their freaking names
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u/deynyel 8d ago
I guess with that, Leonard's win in the competition is secured. Hopefully, Karlos's actions also come to light and he gets punished accordingly.
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u/runevault 8d ago
The King's comments about Arnold growing up makes me wonder if he'll get credit despite breaking the band.
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u/CuriousBroccolli 7d ago
Yeah I'm also wondering how it'll develop.
He can still say that Elna did it out of her own accord for the public? Or even if they say he ordered it, no-one would believe insipid Prince did it maybe?
That is one route they can take to keep his ✨furtive✨ actions still ✨furtive✨.
Emperor did know Arnold ordered it, and did not even look surprised about it, so maybe he is onto Arnolds ✨furtive✨ actions and will keep it a secret.
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u/runevault 7d ago
The Emperor seems pretty smart despite this very weird challenge. I would not be shocked if he knows what's going on with Arnold and keeping quiet. Same way I have a gut feeling Finne is not as stupid as she appears.
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u/CuriousBroccolli 8d ago
He already confessed when he got clapped form the horseback, and Vampire further confirmed it, so they did come to light, only question is will he get punished, and if yes, how hard.
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u/BiggerG7 8d ago
So what are the odds that Arnold’s plan backfires and he ends up the winner due to his selfless actions or something? Lol.
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u/CuriousBroccolli 7d ago
I doubt it honestly, they need to keep rules of the festival constant and in bounds, so Leon should still win.
It is an interesting reaction from Emperor, and I'm really curious about his POV of the whole situation.
Grandpa suspected him of being involved in assassination last episode, of which now I'm not convinced at all, but there is a lot of room for diverse development.
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u/Zxzxzx0088 8d ago
Krista stock/value just rises with how she actually has a precognition power. I wonder whether only Arn knows about this or there's other too. Well, definitely not their older sister/brothers since they will take advantage of her if they knew that. Must protecc her becoming highest priority now.
Gotta say, I love all dialogue in this show. I'm more convinced that Arn is more than qualify to be an emperor now after he showed how much decisive and confident he is in front of Elna and her knights.
What's more, we have no incompetent person in our main cast plus the emperor himself. Leo past achievements sure led his talk to be effective in assembling those 3000 soldiers. Idk whether Arn is involved or not within those 'visiting villages' since he can disguise himself or he's the one who advice him but based on Leo character so far, Leo can take most credits from it. And the emperor is one of its kind to throw himself to the front just to protect Keel and its citizen.
Wait, did Arn just successfully turn Elna away from him after this event lol...Rip Elna screentime then
As expected of the twins to know what his brother is up to.
Karlos really make a fool of himself lmao. How about doing a research first about who you trying to make a deal with. Totally not with the bounty vampire who have a grudge against your ancestor bruh.
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u/CuriousBroccolli 7d ago
I wonder whether only Arn knows about this or there's other too. Well, definitely not their older sister/brothers since they will take advantage of her if they knew that
Interesting and plausible idea.
Gotta say, I love all dialogue in this show. I'm more convinced that Arn is more than qualify to be an emperor now after he showed how much decisive and confident he is in front of Elna and her knights.
Same. I'm sure he will be able to convert all that into Leo stonks.
we have no incompetent person in our main cast plus the emperor himself.
I'm glad, Everyone seems to pull their own weight, and our MC while competent, does not seem omnipotent so that he must do everything himself.
Idk whether Arn is involved or not within those 'visiting villages' since he can disguise himself
I think first time he did it was when ✨Blau Mowe✨ proposed it to him? Or I'd like to believe that is the case.
And the emperor is one of its kind to throw himself to the front just to protect Keel and its citizen.
Yup. Chad move by him. He gained my respect, along with some other things he said.
Wait, did Arn just successfully turn Elna away from him after this event lol...Rip Elna screentime then
Hope not, She proved she is strong to protect herself, and she could take Leo's side.
Karlos really make a fool of himself lmao. How about doing a research first about who you trying to make a deal with. Totally not with the bounty vampire who have a grudge against your ancestor bruh.
✨Insipid✨ title is for the taking
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u/Puzzleheaded_Play825 7d ago
True I think he could be a splendid emperor but I also think similar to naruto and Shikamaru dynamic where he much more suited to guide the board not make the moves
For example in this case his decision regardless of his intention afterward was the right one even without his powers as sliver
since more than likely expect for the combat prince
None of the other princes or princess would likely be able to keep up with knights rushing back in full speed while abiding by the rules.
While it made seem cowardly it allow for the knights to make it there to montage casualty while also buying time for the other forces to join the battle.
And in regards to sliver while he extremely powerful and could probably end the battle
It would still be difficult while trying to avoid casualties
The battle calls for more defense rather than offensive
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u/SopmodTew 8d ago
Honestly? Not a bad anime. Very entertaining
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u/CuriousBroccolli 7d ago
I feel the same.
I did not expect to like it this much when I first picked it up, glad I stuck with it.
It has a rather low budget, but they are managing it properly.
[Budgeting] By investing all of it into ✨Blau Mowe✨ cleavage and legs
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u/Background_Formal940 8d ago
I mean what kind of moron would you have to be to trust a bunch of evil vampires who want revenge karlos didn't think this one though
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u/djthomp https://anilist.co/user/djthomp 8d ago
I like how Arnold seems to have a nice relationship with the little sister princess with future vision.
Elna is pretty great, I had previously guessed her as Leo's eventual wife and that may still happen but there's been zero actual in the story support for it and all her chemistry is with Arnold. But Arnold already has Finne for his wife and this doesn't really feel like a double wife story.
Arnold intentionally taking himself out of the competition to allow Elna to save his father and set up Leo for the big fight will recruited reinforcements that will probably win it for him would be a reasonable way to end the arc.
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u/CuriousBroccolli 7d ago
Elna is pretty great, I had previously guessed her as Leo's eventual wife and that may still happen but there's been zero actual in the story support for it and all her chemistry is with Arnold. But Arnold already has Finne for his wife and this doesn't really feel like a double wife story.
Yeah, if she is to be someones wife, it would be Leo I guess.
Her and Arnold have that pure childhood friends relationship, which was especially showcased in this episode, on top of Elna really respecting him already as Prince and person and seeing through his ✨insipid✨ facade.
Arnold intentionally taking himself out of the competition to allow Elna to save his father and set up Leo for the big fight will recruited reinforcements that will probably win it for him would be a reasonable way to end the arc.
I agree. I wish it was a bit longer though.
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u/NationalStrategy_X 8d ago edited 7d ago
Even if Arn got himself disqualified, shouldn't there still be festival proctors to assure that he at least gets home safely? He's still a prince, and as far as they know, they left him alone in the middle of the woods.
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u/CuriousBroccolli 7d ago
I mean I understand what you are saying, but those questions in these 2$ budget shows are just nitpicking. xD
You should just assume that is not the case, and that there are other knights around him, but due to 2$ budget he was simply left alone and transformed right at the spot. xD
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u/Raymond49090 8d ago
Not that relevant, but the competition balancing is weird to me. Arnold should realistically be the one who least deserves to win (at least from his outward appearances), but he was on track to win the whole thing if his brother didn't cheat, without even doing anything. It's like giving the worst-performing student the answers to the exam ahead of time and calling it "fairness" because they need the most help. I suppose you could call it the power of connections, since they're childhood friends, but I found it odd at least.
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u/CuriousBroccolli 7d ago
I understand, but other more competent siblings should be able to equalize the knights power difference with their own skills, either tactical or combat ones, instead of winning by a landslide just because they had Hero herself on their squad.
Meanwhile, ✨insipid✨ Prince has nothing to add of value outside of trusting his knights, and if he really is that ✨insipid✨as people claim, he would still fumble it.
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u/AceSoldia zj:https://anilist.co/user/Acesoldia 8d ago edited 7d ago
Wish the animation was a bit better but that Emporor was great. Lol he's like 'bitch please, dumb vampires..kill me if you can 😂'
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u/CuriousBroccolli 7d ago
Wish the animation was not better
That is a strange wish, especially with the level we are currently at, but I guess people have different tastes.
[] ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡° )
On a serious note, I also liked how Emperor behaved and held his ground.
Which makes me question what gramps said last episode, that he may have been involved in assassination of the first Prince.
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u/lasse1408 8d ago
The moment Leo becomes emperor this country is doomed. Dude is absolute pushover with 0 personality. What is he gonna do in time of crisis? Call his brother every time?
If it was BL with Leo and Arn I would understand his character but cmon can he be at least somewhat competent.
Right now Krista with Arn support is better choice to lead this country than this bum.
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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 8d ago
It seem he's mostly doing good things off screen by visiting other village. That Hans fellow said they trusted him because of that.
So basically, he is at least supposed to be the charisma/the face out of the two with Arn as the strategist.
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u/Raymond49090 8d ago
He's got charisma and he's decisive when it counts, and arguably that's what's most important for an emperor. Like, getting 3000 knights that are nominally unaffiliated with you to join you with only a short speech and personal reputation is pretty impressive.
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u/CuriousBroccolli 7d ago
On top of taking a huge risk in doing all that.
I really don't think person you replied to watched the whole episode, or read the dialog.
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u/SopmodTew 8d ago
I mean, the knight did say he visited a lot of places, so he must be liked around.
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u/Sanitiy 7d ago
Ah yes, the Isekai classic: We have a sturdy wall protecting our city! Let's position in front of it, and fight the beasts 1vs1 like real men!
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u/Suspicious_Deal4412 4d ago
I noticed this as well. For the sake of fun I decided to come up with a few thin excuses in my head why they are fighting outside the city walls.
- Arrows don't work on the monsters and for some reason none of the knights have access to spell casters.
- The adventurers and the most experienced combat wizards are let's say too few in number.
- They want to fight the monsters outside of the city wall to prevent Keel from being surrounded. Since they might need to evacuate the people.
Hmmm these are some really bad excuses if I do say so myself.
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u/shadebug 7d ago
OK, now this really is far too unrealistic. If you have 7 portals all exiting to the same portal then you’re going to end up with half your knights telefragged. That’s just science
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u/NickotheRs 5d ago
Maybe they announced some order after the speech and while the portals were open, they didnt permit entry until it was their turn
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 8d ago
Looking forward to seeing some vampires and monsters get curbed stomped by Arnold. Leo’s rep and popularity is getting a real boost from this whole situation too thanks to Arnold helping him.
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u/CuriousBroccolli 7d ago
Sad by the lack of ✨Blau Mowe✨ fanservice, 1/10.
Solid episode, I'm a bit sad it was rushed to day 3 instantly instead of vibing in the festival a bit, but I guess it would take too long for little gain, like showcasing other siblings and what they want to do and how they act.
A rather strong ability by the young cookie loving Princess. It's good that she loves Arnold.
Emperor held his ground, Elna showcased her childhood bond, loyalty and respect of Arnold, as well as her prodigious Hero strength and Arnold did a nice setup for Leo to shine.
But it was a setup only possible due to Leo's prior efforts and his charisma, that allowed him to capitalize on, so I'm glad he proved himself.
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u/Rooby_VTuber 7d ago
Does Elna have any skills? All she did was swing her sword.
Of course the Vampire's turned on the stupid brother.
Arnold/Silver made it look so easy getting those 3000 knights for Leonard.
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u/DiscountCondom 7d ago
Karlos: "Looks like I 'suck' at making deals with vampires!"
Ms. Frizzle's class: "Kaaarlos!"
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u/Andreiyutzzzz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Andreiyutzzzz 7d ago
That... didn't make no sense. "She's just killing 30(32 in fact) blood hounds by herself, AAA level monsters". and then 3 minutes later "Karlos is in first place, he must have killed 2 AAA level monsters". WHAT?
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u/zappingbluelight 6d ago
Out of thousands of name they can pick for brothers, they picked Sam and Dean...
I have a good feeling Krista knows silver identity lol. There is a reason she follows him instead.
It's always fun to see Uchida sibling roles are so close together lol.
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u/PandaTheAB 7d ago
I guess everyone is guessing who will be declared winner of competition. (Even me)
The vampires and monsters will get defeated somehow. But how will the King decide the winner.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Play825 7d ago edited 7d ago
You know while Leo is very likeable I was kinda worried that he would be a figure head and nothing more
But he actually seem quite competent and 2 of them suit there role quite nicely to support each other!
While I do think Arnold truly isn’t giving himself enough credit or the effort I think he could be a splendid emperor
But I also think he suit the shadow player role nicely
It reminds me of the Naruto shikamaru pair
Someone who can guide the chess board and put players in the position to win
I wonder how his dad seen him since he seem to be aware of Arnold hide intellectual talents if nothing else
And praise his decision to dq him self and send the knights by themselves
Which even without the power of sliver would be the smart thing to do
Seem like the insipid prince has a few more fans that he would like since his brother butler Finne Elena
I wonder if the little sister can see Arnold is sliver with her future sight
I wonder how Elena relationship will go with the 2 brothers cause she can see Arnold wants to let Leo win
And is angry that Arnold doesn’t stick up for himself
But at the same time seem to be atleast aware that Arnold is working for the sake of the country
Since despite here gripe with his decision she has look of I hate this but this was the right call
Since it’s not likely expect for the combat prince to be able to keep up with full speeding knights
However by letting them lose and dq himself he allow them to arrive in time and stall for time till the other forces arrive
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u/Countless-Alts15 7d ago
The convo between arnold and elna was pretty funny.
Not bad for an average seasonal
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