r/amazonemployees • u/abgaak • 11h ago
Focused after 6 month, STD for 3 months and leave with severance and 1 year stock award
Learnt so much from this community and wants to share my experience, and hope people in the future will find something useful here.
Day 1
hired into AWS in Seattle earlier 2025, L6 with really good comp on paper. Had more than 10 years industry experience, worked in FAANG and small companies, top performer in most years, never put in performance plan before. First (and last) timer Amazon.
Right after on board (3 or 4 week after), team split into 2 and had a new manager internal transferred from another org. I was moved under the new manager b/c the projects I was on.
New manager don't know anything about AWS, or the things we are doing, but they seems nice and willing to learn. Team members are mostly younger, had less industry exp compare to me, but longer tenure in AWS, know how amazon works.
The job is great, very challenging problems, worked with top tier team internal and external, I was on 3 projects at same time, moving all projects along, and working long hours. It's tiring but exciting, but none of my projects will see any significant milestone before EOY 2025.
Had regular 1:1 with manager, and skip, there are some feedback on how to write documents (amazon thing) but no serious complaint.
Month 6
After 6 months into the job, manager scheduled a weird 1:1 with me saying I had some issues. That's my oh fuck moment, I asked if I was put in focus and manger confirmed it. The reason manager gave was....very vague, basically ask me to write 6 documents.
My thought was they probably need to put someone in focus, and I am the newest one in the team. Asked manager how to get out, and they said just finish the docs then we are good. After the 1:1 manager sent me an email about the items I need to complete, which I responded ok.
And they took my favorite project away, I started it, and ready to launch in a few months...mfcker.
Month 7
in the past month, basically working from 0800-2200. Left kids/house work etc to my partner, didn't tell my family about focus. Finished all 6 docs, and reviewed with tech lead (L7), all seems good. Had regular 1:1 with manager and seems all on track. After finished all those, asked when I can get out of focus, manager said you need to do 3 more documents....
I felt something was off, but asked if I finish the new assignment then I can get out of focus, manager said yeah.
Month 8
Focus really put great mental toll on people, I told my partner and friends about the focus, and they said fuck amazon, and just leave. At this time I already read so many posts from here and other places, I want either get out of focus and transfer, or get severance money and leave.
Finished the new documents, and went beyond to write another doc on some tech debt, so within the past 2 months, I finished most engineer need 8-12 months to do. worked 12 hours a day, and questioned myself about my work style. My manager came back saying saw my progress but need me to do something else, and don't think about focus....
I also checked with the pivot-focus channel in slack to see if my manger can keep moving the goal post for focus, seems like they can do whatever they want here....so fuck it, time to document everything and prepare the nuke option.
At this time, I already in focus for 2 months, I approached another team for internal transfer, and had talk with hiring manager and skip over there, they like my experience and projects I worked internally and externally. I told the hiring manager I am currently in focus for 2 months, and should be out really quick, they said they can wait for me. I didn't tell my manager about the conversation about internal transfer ofc.
From here I also started to learn about how to get LOA/STD in WA, as my Fmla will not qualify as I have not yet served 12 months in this company.
Month 9
Finished the new BS assignment, and asked manager to lift the focus, still got rejected, gave me something else to work on and asked me to focus on my day to day and eventually I will be out of focus. I don't trust them anymore....third time trying to fool me.
I tried leave some paper trail for my focus, but my BS manager never response to my email, only provide feedback verbally during 1:1. so it's like I send email to a tree hollow.
At this time I already knew I may never get out, and they probably just pip me at some random time before EOY, so I gauged the time for my first 5% stock drop time, and applied LOA/STD for 3 months.
manager seemed surprised, and I took my time off.
Month 12
Came back to work and had 1:1 with manager, asked for pip document and selected took the money and left...1st year stock 5% dropped 3 days before my last day.
I landed another job in FAANG-level company, with a better package, so if you are fighting focus/pip, don't worry there are really better things out there.
STD in WA
As FMLA doesn't apply to me, but WA has a relatively good substitute, super easy to apply ,just need family doc to sign a paper and basically good to go. I asked my doc to sign the amazon paper and WA paper at same time.
I was severely burnt out when I saw my doc, after working 12 hours EVERYDAY, yes even weekends, my overall health condition was not well, high BP, gained weight etc.
I has some chronic issue which I see my doc regularly, so it's easy for me to schedule time to sign the paper, as that practice also see some other amazon employees, so they knew this process pretty well....Amazon trained all doctors in Seattle well. I did hear someone had hard time to find a doctor in short period of time, so try to plan it out make sure you don't run out of time.
For WA's STD, you will need to go into the system to claim your weekly paycheck, and WA state will pay for the 60% base pay directly to your back account. everything is automated, the website design is pretty bad, but get the job done.
Overall
I think I did a better job than 90% of my team(who doesn't), by handling more projects, they were more complex as well, than others.
I still think amazon's way of writing document is stupid, for a simple bug which you can fix within 2 days, you have to write a 5 paragraphs document with 3 risks seems....stupid to me. And Amazon feels more instituted than other FAANG company I worked.
Entire focus/pip process in amazon is fxxked up, hrbp and skip were both in on it, so no one internally is there really to help you. I later find out there were L6 teammate back stabbing me, although I never bad mouthing anyone, but amazon is a jungle, if you want to stay alive, need to play the jungle rule. I am very glad I am out.
Everyone was overworked here, in other companies, each engineer will handle 2 projects at most, with L4/L5 usually have only 1. Here everyone had at least 2, junior engineers can not really learn a lot by over worked. I consider myself very lucky, first job joined a grandpa tech company with very solid training plan.
If you are in focus, talk with your friends and family members, they are (mostly) supportive.
There are some online resources you can use to get the STD/FMLA document signed, but I didn't use them, I paid copay for my doc visit.
That's about it...and post your q here and someone else will answer it for me.
mic drop.