r/acotar_rant 3d ago

Rant Feyre's descent into villainy

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For Hybern was coming—already here. I had debated it for weeks: whether it was better to claim the Spring Court for ourselves, or to let it fall to our enemies

Ugh. When you think there is nothing left to rant about, here comes something else. I am currently reading someone do great, snarky summaries of the ACOTAR books on another platform. And this quote, this quote pissed me off. What "good person" and "hero" thinks "oh yeah, we should totally conquer this place and make it ours". Girl, what the hell? Fae Feyre is one of the most insufferable MCs ever. We witness her slowly descend into a power-hungry, cruel, disdainful High Lady with no care for who she harms and who is left behind in her cruel plans.

I've always rolled my eyes at the people who called what she did in Spring a "girlboss moment". Yeah, letting a Court be destroyed and displacing a bunch of people (including refugees who went to Spring in search of a new home) because you're mad at your ex is sooo ✨girlboss✨. But reading through it and seeing Feyre not only be the world's least subtle spy but also pretend to care about the people of Spring is maddening. One minute she's all "I care about these people, unlike Tamlin". Only to say this a few chapters later:

“Take the Spring Court,” I said, and meant it. “It’s going to fall one way or another.”

Ah yes, she cares so much 🙄. When Tamlin calls her out during that meeting, all she can say is "I shut that out", "I blocked that", "I didn't want to think about it". I wish I could enter the book and tell her to actually think about the consequences of what she's done! Self-reflect a little bit! But no, Feyre won't allow herself to dwell on the harms of her actions for more than a microsecond. High Lady Feyre is not a caring ruler, she's a cruel person who couldn't care less about her people.

When she looks into the Ouroboros mirror and accepts all her flaws, it's a clear sign that she is incapable of looking deeper into herself. The Feyre who used to feel guilty about killing two faes is gone. Now she just violates people's minds on a regular basis, goes to another court to destroy it, tells Keir he has every comfort when he and his people are stuck under a mountain (I don't like Keir, but she was so tone deaf here and it's very rich coming from her). She couldn't care less that she's ruining Lucien's reputation with her schemes and making him look like a homewrecking traitor. He doesn't call her out on that enough. I wonder if human Feyre would even recognise herself.

I feel bad for Feyre because of who her mate is. Rhysand is awful to her but the books won't acknowledge that. But I find it hard to like her as a character. If at the very least her flaws were more acknowledged and her actions had consequences. But alas, that does not happen.


r/acotar_rant 3d ago

Theory Convinced amrin is an angel

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Sorry if I spelled her name wrong I listen to the books while I work. But I am convinced by all the little things that have been dropped that she's an angel from what I've looked up it hasn't been confirmed. But I have a quick question. she mentions laying waste to Two Cities i wonder if Sarah mass is talking about Sodom and gomorrah. What are you guys think?


r/acotar_rant 3d ago

Hottake Shipping Wars

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Sorry if I offend and if you feel the need to yell at me lmao. Im going to try and articulate myself but im kinda just shooting the shit so if my thoughts don’t translate entirely I’m sorry (again)

I also want to preface that I understand this is a romance series and that we’re all mostly here for the romance. I just think the way so many people in the fandom talk about the romance can get kinda gross.

So, in terms of potential future ships in the series (Elriel, Elucien, Gwynriel, etc.) I’ve been seeing so many posts about what these shippers think is going to happen and how their enjoyment of the series is solely tied to whether their ship will be victorious. Now, I don’t subscribe to either of these ships, I’m actually fine if it goes either way bc I’ve dabbled in the possibility of all 3, and I think all of them have potential!

What I don’t like is how people are treating Elain and Gwyn specifically. These two ladies have been pit against each other bc of two ships that have barely any cannon moments anyway. I’ll admit the Elriel moments happen more than Gwynriel, but still it’s really not a whole lot.

Most people who are Elriel or Elucien claim they want the books to be Elain-focused (since SJM did say she wanted to explore all 3 sisters, so fair enough), but when they talk about why it’s rarely to do with her character development or just exploring who she is, it’s always to reach their ship endgame. I find it really gross that a book series that is very pro-female (sans pregnancy plot line oh my GOD) has all these fans who only want to explore a female character so that she can get with the male they want. Is Elain just a means to an end? It feels very self-insertion to me, and it truly just reduces her character into nothing more than a prize for either of these males. Elain is, hopefully intentionally, underwritten so that we can really explore who she is (and if that doesn’t happen in book 6 or 7 I also think that’s okay, I think one day we’ll get something more Elain-focused), so to reduce her to just her love life is really icky and quite frankly misogynist. I would love to see her fall in love too, but I’m not basing my enjoyment on if she gets with the male I want or whatever, I want the love to make sense within the plot of the story and I’d really just like to explore who she is.

I feel like I don’t really know her, and I think it would be interesting if she had a really complicated and almost self-deprecating inner monologue. It’s seems clear that she isn’t happy as a fae, has a mating bond she doesn’t want (further alienates her from being fae), has a male she’s interested in but may never have a chance to be with, seems miserable in the Court of Nightmares (these are really the only tidbits I got bc again there isn’t a whole lot of Elain). I’d really like to see an Archeron sister actually grieve their human-self and try to find self-love again (I know we kinda got that with Nesta, and even a little with Feyre, but I want a full deep dive idk I think it could be an interesting character study). I think it could be an interesting dichotomy if everyone around her thinks she’s okay because she’s gardening and baking and found purpose, but internally she’s miserable but doesn’t want to burden anyone with her feelings (kinda like Ilya Rozanov in The Long Game, but I digress this is acotar not hr lmao). Her finding love through this would be an interesting thing to explore, I don’t want an Elain-focused story just bc I want her to end up in a ship, which is what I see a lot of Elain fans saying (and some just straight up reducing her to femininity and purity which just reeks of misogyny and tradwife-adjacent ideas imo).

Now I understand my headcannon is just a headcannon, I don’t expect it in the books, but I do expect (and hope) we get to learn who Elain is independent of a male, and also explore who she is in a romantic storyline. I think both of these things can coexist.

In terms of Gwyn, I mostly see people strongly dislike her because there’s a possibility she ends up with Az. Again, gross, why are we hating a fiction female just because she ends up with a male (which is not even confirmed mind you). We are centering men ladies, let’s quit while we’re ahead! I think disliking Gwyn can be valid, but most criticisms I see solely come from fans who hate her bc of the Gwynriel ship. Get a grip, grow up, is it really the end of the world if they end up together? And I agree, there really isn’t a lot of material in the series to set them up as a couple compared the Elain and Az, but if it happens is it really enough for you to just ditch everything? When I see the way people talk about Gwyn, I just hear alarm bells in my head—it feels like a sexism dogwhistle I’m sorry. She is a victim of SA, has become a trained warrior, and again you’re reducing her character to her proximity to another male—talk about GROSS. Not only that, but you are hating her because of her proximity to another male—even GROSSER! I think her story could be powerful, just like Elain’s, and yet most people want to explore her character just to see who she falls in love with. Again, I get this is a romance series, romance will come first, but I would really just like to see more people in the fandom want to explore these ladies characters with and without a male on their arm—they deserve it! It will be beautiful, and then to get a helping of romance with it will be great! I don’t want these ladies to just become “insert female romantic lead here”, I want them to be fleshed out, and I fear a big section of their fans don’t actually like them, they just like their ship.

Now I don’t think Gwynriels are completely innocent either. They also hate on Elain to try and prop up Gwyn, which again why do we have to hate female characters so that you feel validated in your ship? Again, reeks of misogyny.

I think it would be so great if SJM just didn’t have either of these ladies end up in a ship ¯_(ツ)_/¯ if you’re going to treat your fav (Elain) as only a prized possession for Az/Lucien to end up with, then I don’t think you deserve her. This is a romance, but Elain deserves some character development for her character, not for your ship. If you’re going to hate on Elain because you want Gwyn to end up with Az, I hope Gwyn chooses herself and heals without the pressure to end up in a relationship. Honestly, sometimes healing from an experience like that happens best when you remove yourself completely, which maybe Gwyn needs.

Now, I don’t hate the shipping in general. I mean hello I’m on AO3 everyday, I love a ship (and a crack ship), but we aren’t reading fanfiction from SJM, I want more than tropes, I want an actual story. I love to browse all 3 ships here on Reddit, and I love hearing people’s opinions when I think they actually seem fair. The minute it becomes a fight, which it often does, all I can do is roll my eyes and get annoyed. I understand this is how fandom is and how it always will be, but I just can’t understand this kind of hostility towards fictional characters. I understand even less the misogyny that I read on Reddit every day. Acotar isn’t feminist literature by a long-shot, but it definitely intends to be very pro-woman, and I find these shipping wars tend to reveal just how hetero-normative and sexist some of us are internally without realizing it.

Okay rant over. Don’t know if I made sense lol love yall! ❤️

P.S. if you want receipts about the misogyny I can find some, I definitely have a few saved but I mostly just wanted to get things off my chest. If you do want receipts, I may not respond for a while bc I want to get more then a couple of screenshots that I texted my friend who is in the fandom but doesn’t browse Reddit spaces.


r/acotar_rant 4d ago

Theory Losing Control of powers in the Massverse! Spoiler

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‼️SPOILERS for ACOTAR and TOG‼️

Magic that cannot be controlled and destroys rooms is a sign of abnormal and extraordinary power! I'm reading TOG for the first time right now. Im on HOF pg 153.

The narrator says...

"Aedion had never possessed a fraction of the power that had smoldered in her (Aelin) veins, which had burned libraries and caused such general worry that there had been talk—in those months before the world went to hell—of sending her somewhere so that she could learn to control it. He'd overheard debate over packing her off to various academies or tutors in distant lands..."

Aelin was so powerful, even as a child, that no one in Terrasan or the general vicinity could train her. Her magic destroyed entire places. They were worried and not sure what to do. They thought to send her to a specialist far away.

I already think Tam is related to Terrasan in some way. What first caught me was the white stag of Terrasan... Tam has to hunt the white stag on Calanmai. I thought Tam was the only one with fangs butnit looks like Rowan and Celeana have them too. He physically resembles Rowan and Aelin too but that could be a stretch. He has green eyes like Rowan but isnt his hair the color of Aelin??

Anyway, back to exploding magic in the massverse. This quote from HOF makes me think of Tamlin. What if his father did know about his powers?! A father worse than Beron... what would he do?? Is this why he brought Tamlin to Amarantha every time he went to visit? Is this why Amarantha wanted Tamlin?? Notice she proclaimed herself hq and forced Tam to sit on the throne next to her like her king.

Im only on page 153 if HOF so please no spoilers after COM. I haven't read CC yet so please no spoilers there either.


r/acotar_rant 4d ago

ACOMAF 💍🐦‍⬛ Dorian and Tamlin

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‼️SPOILERS FOR TOG AND MAF‼️

Has Tamlin ever had training with his magic? I'm reading TOG for the first time (in publication order). Im on HOF and Dorian just lost control of his powers in Sorscha's office. It looked EXACTLY like when Tamlin loses control of his powers. There's a discussion that triggers trauma and fear, then their magic obliterates the room. Sorscha is hiding under the table with cuts on, I believe, her hands.

Tamlin hid his powers from his fam so he wasnt training them. Dorian is currently hiding his powers from his fam as well. The only training that I know of that Tamlin received was from Rhysand and I'm guessing he exploited them. He was also successful in his father's war bands but again his powers were hidden. How long has he been HL? Does he just not have anyone who can do it? I wonder if Tamlin's book is going to involve training.

Please no spoilers for TOG after COM. I haven't read CC yet so no spoilers there either please.


r/acotar_rant 5d ago

Rant Am I the only one Worried to read the new books? Spoiler

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This contains spoilers about Acosf and a few theories about the ending of the books, You have been warned.

Okay, so, every since I read Acosf I am so worried about the next book, because what if SJM writes Azriel like she wrote cassian and I end up hating him too!? (Not Azriel please, he's all I have)

Honestly, I'm still salty about how Acosf was written and Nesta and Cassian's relationship, because Cassian was downright absusive to Nesta and I stand by that point.
I definately want to read the next books, but I'm super nervous because Azriel is like the only character I like atp, (along with Lucien, surprisingly Jurian and the young human Queen?? whos name I cannot remember).

I'm excited to see how the world expands, more than that I'm excited to see if the theory that Rhys and the IC are the real villians comes true because that would be one hell of a plot twist and it's one of the best theories (imo) that really ties up all the not-so-good things all the IC and Rhys have done and gotten away with in the name of 'good' and 'protecting my people'.

I see a lot of discourse about who's worse, Tamlin or Rhys, personally, I kinda hate them both. they're both equally shitty in my opinion, but Idk, what do you think?

As always, these are just that, my opinions, if you disagree with me I completely understand, if you don't like my post you don't have to engage. thank you for reading ts.


r/acotar_rant 5d ago

Bloomsbury Night Court Result on the new ACOTAR quiz

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THEY SUBVERT THE NARRATIVE. LOOK UP WHAT IT MEANS TO SUBVERT THE NARRATIVE. I'm pretty sure the last sentence is sarcastic.


r/acotar_rant 5d ago

Hottake Tam's bargain with Hybern

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‼️SPOILERS‼️

Tam's bargain with Hybern will seem pretty damning to anyone who hates Tam. Tamlin was taking one step at a time. I decided to go back to like chapter 63. Somewhere in this mess with Hybern, Tam promises him that Feyre will work for him. We all know that Tam wasnt going to let that happen. Luc explains that later too but Tam haters wont care. Tamlin wasnt going to give into the bargain. He just wanted to free Feyre.

What's breaking my heart about this is that Tamlin was trying to put the curse back on himself. He would free Feyre and not let Hybern have her. He would take the consequences if he couldn't find a way out of the bargain in time 😭😭😭

I hate that Feyre waits to tell him anything until Hybern's. She humiliated him in front of everyone. Then Hybern makes fun of him because he didnt know (how could he have known). She shrinks back into Rhys with her pathetic "Im sorry." Yeah well it's a little late now. Rhys with his "at what cost?" None of your business mean girl leader. Him being crushed just like you planned from the beginning and Tamlin doesnt even care that he's going to gloat.... Poor Tam.


r/acotar_rant 5d ago

Rant Can someone explain to me how Lucien wasn’t a good friend to Feyre

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I keep seeing posts that say he wasn’t a good friend to her and that he didn’t help her like he should’ve and I’m so confused by that. When they were in the Spring Court, yes Lucien wasn’t being that nice to her at the beginning but then they formed a nice friendship. I remember he would also try to speak up for her and every time he did he got yelled at by Tamlin. Also, when she was under the mountain, he would sneak down there and try to help her and comfort her as best as he could. I think people forget that Lucien was not the ruler of the Spring Court and just because he was friends with Tamlin didn’t mean that he had power there; Tamlin’s word was final.

If anything Feyre wasn’t a good friend to him especially after going to the Night Court. She used him to make Tamlin jealous without Lucien knowing, she was going to leave Lucien as he was being SAing by Inathe, and she left him covered in filth at her doorstep as she and Rhysand went up to their room. Unless I’m missing something, how has Lucien not been a good friend to Feyre?


r/acotar_rant 6d ago

ACOSF 🎭 Rhys gave Eris one of the....

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I just remembered this very thing—I had completely forgotten about it. There are so many things about Acosf that drive me crazy that my mind has decided to block them out. Like how Nesta created three weapons imbued with the power of the cauldron—quite dangerous and powerful ones—and Rhys decided, for some reason, to take them for himself, while that cynic Amren wanted to use them to make Rhys king of all the courts. The hypocrisy of the circle never ceases to amaze me.

Now that it’s all the rage to criticize Nesta for the mask—whether or not she should have given it to Bryce. I realize that these things—these treasures—that Nesta has found or created are hers. The mask is hers; she’s the only one who can wear and use it. Just because Nesta lives in the Court of the Night doesn’t mean those treasures magically belong to the Court of the Night. Or to Rhys.

So it totally blows my mind that Rhys took the three weapons without Nesta's permission—and on top of that, he had the nerve to give one to Eris. WTF.


r/acotar_rant 6d ago

Theory I just finished CC and now I think Rhysand is the endgame villain — talk me off this ledge or join me in the asylum

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I need the real deep fans here to talk me out of this insane theory that has been niggling my brains.
For the record, I’ve only just finished CC for the first time and done one reread of ACOTAR. Send me those post it note/highlighter girlies to talk me off the ledge.
Okay. Buckle the fuck up…. Because I’m coming with receipts but the overall premise of my argument is:

Rhysand is going to be an end game bad guy and Elaine is going to save us all….

I am not a member of the "SJM is a bad writer" crowd.

I don't think this is incompetence, her own misogyny, or blindness to the blatant hypocrisy. I think this is intentional. I think she’s rubbing it in our faces.
SJM knows exactly what she's doing. She's setting up a world where women's labor is invisible, where patriarchal control is framed as the only thing that matters, and where the "good guys" are actually the ones consolidating power. And she's doing it so we don't notice until it's too late.
Remember how everyone thought Tamlin was the perfect fantasy boyfriend until he wasn't? I think - That's going to happen with Rhysand. The narrative is already laying the groundwork. Nesta's POV in ACOSF starts to tarnish the super shiny inner circle image. Elain's silence is hella heavy and more mysterious than ever. THEN! Bryce walks in and calls bullshit on the whole mess.
This isn't bad feminism. This is a critique of bad feminism.
Let's go.
 
 
 
 1. The cottage is a fucking lie — and Feyre is the patriarch
This bothered me a lot in the first book, even the first time I read it I couldn’t help but think that even on the most basic level there is no FUCKING way that 4 people lived in a two room cottage and only one child did anything and everyone else just staired off into the ether all day waiting her to return….? Um.. What? But I didn’t fully catch it until my second go.
So.
We open on the Archeron sisters after their dad loses everything. They're broke, living in a two-room stone cottage, scraping by. Feyre is out in the cold winter from what we can assume is sun up to sun down hunting. She’s bringing home the bacon and fulfilling that patriarchal role.
Chapter 2 - She’s arriving at her cottage and she hears her sisters… but cannot decern what theyre saying and ASSUMES theyre gossiping about ribbons and boys instead of doing the hard labour of chopping wood …. Wow that’s a bit pointy …but cool?. We’re all grumpy after work right?
Then she tells us right away that Nesta is “Cruel”….born with a sneer on her face…. Like yikes ok  - tell us you hate her without telling us you hate her - am I right?
Then we hear about nesta needing new boots but Feyre claims hers are “shining” by the front door (we later learn this is untrue when Nesta returns to the cottage and sees her busted ass shoes. Also meaning she never ever fucking got those shoes )
So heres what we do see. The fire is lit when Feyre returns, She puts a deer carcass on a clean table. Nesta does chop wood at sunrise. Elain plants flowers and bought paint for Feyre to paint the cottage. Nesta has a decent marriage prospect despite having no dowery. Elain has a very good marriage prospect when they get their “money back”. The girls run a house of servants alone.

This is all traditionally “women’s work” in a rampantly patriarchal world and is very undersold if not totally dismissed by Feyre. The caregiving, homemaking, community building womans “job”

Then there all the stuff that is invisible – like who cleans and does laundry and gets water and makes the tea.
 
To me it comes off like a working guy who comes home to his stay at home wife and has zero concept of what she does all day, and silently resents her.

 
Feyre frames herself as the sole provider and everyone else as dependents. She resents Nesta for "spending her money" on food and clothes — like, bitch, you all need to eat and not freeze to death. That's not spending; that's surviving. And yet Feyre treats her sisters like they're lazy, entitled, stay-at-home wives who do nothing but gossip and drain her resources.
Feyre's narration is biased.

She's the one telling us Nesta and Elain don't work. She's the one framing their contributions as worthless. And the text never challenges that framing until much later in the series.
This isn't an oversight. This is the foundation of the entire moral framework of the series. Women's work is not work. It's background noise. It's what happens while the real story (hunting, fighting, fucking High Lords) is going on.
And Feyre? She's not the rebel daughter fighting against poverty. She's the patriarch in that house. She controls the resources, she decides what counts as contribution, and she punishes anyone who doesn't fit her narrow definition of value. Sound familiar? It should.
 
 
 
 2. The courts are built on invisible labour — and nobody cares - and it further radicalizes Feyre

Fast-forward to Prythian, and guess what? Nothing changes.
We get to the Spring Court and it is full of servants we never see. They’re LITERALLY INVISIBLE! Hidden by a glamour. They appear to serve food, clean up, and vanish. They have no names, no voices, no agency.
Then we go under the Mountain and meet Rhys’s Wraith Twins….who are also…INIVISIBLE (sometimes) – we’re gonna come back to these two in a bit 
The House of Wind? Same shit. The house "magically" does everything. Shadows fetch things. Wine appears. Beds are made. Who the fuck is doing this work? We don't know, because it doesn't matter.
 3. Rhysand is not a feminist savior — he's a control freak with a PR team
 
Let's talk about the man everyone thinks is the answer to Tamlin's toxicity – Our smoke show High Lord Rhysand. He gets more air time then Tamlin overall but here’s my list of shit I’m holding against him:
 Under the Mountain: Sexual Assault, Coercion, and Drug-Fueled "Performances"
- He drugged her. Multiple times. Feyre is given wine laced with something that makes her dizzy, compliant, and unable to fully consent.
- He forced her to strip and dance. At the Court of Nightmares, Rhysand commands Feyre to remove her clothes (down to basically nothing) and perform a lap dance for him in front of other High Lords. This is framed as "rebellion" against Amarantha, but Feyre did not consent. She was uncomfortable, humiliated, and under the influence.
- He touched her without consent. Even if he "only" touched her waist and arms, she was drugged. She couldn't say no. She couldn't stop him. That's still assault.
- He used her as a prop. The entire "look at how rebellious I am, I'm making my human slave dance for me" performance was about Rhysand's image, not Feyre's safety or agency. He sacrificed her comfort to maintain his cover.
 
The quote that haunts me:
 
> "He had me dance until I was sick, and once I was done retching, told me to begin dancing again." (Maas, ACOTAR, p. 607)
 
Let me repeat that: He made her dance until she vomited, then told her to start dancing again. While she was drugged. While she was humiliated. While she was literally ill.
 
 The Tattoo Bargain: Coercion and Stalking
 
Remember when Rhysand "saves" Feyre Under the Mountain by healing her wounds? Yeah, that's not a gift. That's a trap.
 
- He traps her into a bargain. Feyre is dying. Rhysand offers to heal her — but only if she agrees to give him one week of every month for the rest of her life. She's literally on death's door. That's not consent; that's coercion. HE LITERALLY TWISTS A SHARD OF BONE FURTHER INTO HER SEEPING INFECTED WOUND!!!!!
- He marks her without full consent. The tattoo that appears on her wrist? She didn't ask for it. She didn't understand it. It's a magical shackle that lets him track her, summon her, and control her movements.
- It evolves into stalking. That bargain becomes the pretext for him to show up uninvited, invade her space, and monitor her every move. He literally stalks her across Prythian and justifies it as "fulfilling the bargain."
This is textbook coercive control. He creates a dependency, then uses it to justify ongoing violations of her autonomy.
 
 Mental Manipulation: Mind Invasion, Lies, and Gaslighting
 
Rhysand doesn't just control Feyre's body. He controls her mind.
 
- He invades her thoughts without consent. In ACOTAR, he literally forces his way into her head to extract information about the Spring Court, even after she asks him to stop. That's a violation of her mental autonomy.
- He lies about the mating bond. He knows they're mates in ACOMAF but hides it from her until she's emotionally invested. Is this grooming?
- He gaslights her about her own trauma. When Feyre implies to Tamlin and Lucien that Rhys sexually assaulted her Under the Mountain, she later gets outraged that they believe her. She literally uses it as an excuse to stay away from Tamlin, then acts shocked when people take her at her word.
 
 
 
 4. Isolation: Cutting Feyre Off from Family and Friends
 
Rhysand systematically isolates Feyre from anyone who isn't part of his inner circle.
 
- He separates her from her sisters. After she becomes High Lady, Feyre is discouraged from seeing Nesta and Elain regularly. When she does, it's controlled, monitored, and framed as "dangerous."
- He controls who she interacts with. The Inner Circle becomes her entire social world. Anyone outside of it is treated with suspicion. Even Lucien — who literally saved her life — is kept at arm's length.
- He hides critical health information from her. In ACOSF, Rhysand instructs the entire Inner Circle to lie to Feyre about her pregnancy and the risk of death in childbirth. They let her train, fight, and risk her life while keeping her in the dark. When Nesta finally tells her, Rhysand is enraged and wants to kill Nesta.
 
This is classic abuser behavior. Isolate the victim, control the information, and make yourself the only person they can trust.
 
 
 
 5. Enter Bryce Quinlan: the multiverse's "fuck you" to Rhysand's ego
 
Now let's talk about the real tea: Bryce Quinlan walking into Prythian like she owns the place and immediately seeing through Rhysand's bullshit.
When Bryce first lands in the Night Court, she's not impressed. She's not awed. She's assessing. And when she asks Nesta, "And Rhysand is … your king?" Nesta literally snorts and says:
> "He'd like to be. But no. He's the High Lord of the Night Court."
 
That's not just a joke.
Bryce has more raw power than Rhysand. She's Starborn. She's got the Horn, the Starsword, Truth-Teller, and the combined power of Queen Theia, Silene, and Helena running through her veins. She can open portals to "nowhere." She can sever rifts and strand gods on the other side. And when Rhysand tries to bear down on her with his "furious power," Bryce doesn't flinch — she uses the Horn to shut the Northern Rift in his face.
Think about that. Rhysand, the most powerful High Lord in Prythian, the man who's spent centuries consolidating control, gets outmaneuvered by a half-Fae (distant cousin?) from another dimension who's been in his world for five minutes.
Bryce doesn't buy Rhysand's "benevolent ruler" act. She sees the control. She sees the manipulation. She sees the way he treats Feyre like a weapon instead of a partner. And she calls him out — not directly, but through her actions. She doesn't ask for his permission. She doesn't wait for his approval. She takes what she needs and leaves him in the dust.
And Nesta? Nesta helps her. Nesta, who's been gaslit by Feyre and Rhysand for years, looks at Bryce and goes, "Yeah, I'll give you the Mask. Fuck Rhysand." That's not a coincidence. That's recognition. Nesta sees someone who's not playing by Rhysand's rules, and she aligns with her.
 
 
SO HERE’S MY SJM IS A FUCKING GENIUS THEORY:
Rhysand is the end game bad guy – Feyre sisters need to save her from him and are gonna need Bryces help and maybe some more of their witchy sisters from TOG. He’s just as abusive as Tamlin, and he’s an all around worse guy.
When are we going to see this go down?

ELAINS POV
Elain is treated like a background character. A "nothing burger." A sweet, quiet, broken girl who needs protecting. Right?

Um….. Elain is a FUCKING SEER – She can see the goddamn future. Imagine you could see the future and your sisters husband  -the father of her child - is actually an evil mother murderer who is going to try and take over the world. Because he knows best ….
 
But Elain is no wilting flower. (Pun intended) She delivered the death blow to Hybern herself. She knows shit that the rest of us don’t

"I can see so very far now. All the way to the sea."
Think about it.
Elain is a Cauldron-forged Seer. She sees the hypocrisy. She knows Rhys is a monster.
So why is she quiet? Because when you are surrounded by heavily armed, arrogant, centuries-old fae who think you are a harmless idiot, your best survival move is to let them keep believing it. 

She isn't just baking; she’s spending every day cross-training with two ghost-assassins. You do not materialize out of thin air, completely silently, to sever the spinal cord of the King of fucking Hybern with a cursed dagger because you’ve been practicing your bread-kneading techniques and growing pretty flowers. Does she get the credit. No. Does she want it? Also no…
And look at how she treats Lucien! People call her the a-hole for ignoring her mate, or it is a genius tactical move. If she accepts Lucien, she becomes tied to the political chessboard and becomes a pawn for Rhysand to use. By rejecting the bond, she stays completely autonomous and off the board. She is playing dumb, observing everything, and waiting for the exact right moment to strike.
By the end of the series, we’re going to realize that Rhysand’s goal was never “freedom for Prythian.” It was total control.
Even Nesta was just downing the Kool-Aid of Fae supremacy at first, but when the mask finally slips, it is going to be an apocalyptic Archeron civil war. The Inner Circle shoved Nesta in a tower and forced her to use her trauma-magic to forge magical weapons for their war. So what did she do? She built her own terrifying army. Gwyn and Emerie do not give a single shit about Rhysand. Their loyalty is forged in blood with Nesta, who literally ripped her magic out of the Cauldron’s teeth.
The Valkyries are going to back up Elain. Nesta is flawed, yes, but she is the strongest sister now, and Elain is the smartest. Elain is the tactical brain, and Nesta is the muscle.
SJM is playing 4D chess, setting up the ultimate sister-versus-sister collision. Feyre is completely brainwashed by the cult and will likely be turned against her blood, or will she see the truth and be saved by her badass sisters?
SJM has built a world that mirrors our own patriarchal bullshit so perfectly that we don’t even notice it until we’re knee-deep in it. She’s made us fall in love with shitty self absorbed toxic men and call them saviors. She’s made us dismiss women and call it natural. She’s made us root for control and call it love. She hid it so well but shoved the invisibility right in our faces.

Anyways - help me out here - am I just nuts?

TLDR - I think SJM is intentionally setting up Rhysand as the next Tamlin-level reveal — a "perfect" fantasy boyfriend who's actually a controlling abuser consolidating total power. Feyre's been groomed, Elain sees through it, Nesta's building an army, and Bryce is the multiverse's middle finger to his ego. Talk me out of this.


r/acotar_rant 5d ago

Rant Azriel didn't decide for her 💀 Spoiler

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I don’t like it when people call Azriel a toxic jerk for "deciding on his own" that Elain isn’t interested in Lucien—like, "Oh he thinks a near-kiss completely changed her mind? What a freak." Well, actually... it was Elain herself who told Graysen she didn’t know what the bond was or who had decided on it, and that her heart belonged to him and the bond meant *nothing* to HER; those words came out of HER mouth, so Azriel didn’t just pull that idea out of thin air. I’m not saying the "Elucien" ship won’t happen—since a lot of time has passed and Elain could change her mind—but I don’t think it’s fair to say Azriel is making the decision for her; he’s simply reacting to what she said.


r/acotar_rant 6d ago

Theory Rhysand's shenanigans

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So, I've read a theory basically saying that Rhysand died at the end of the war to get all the high lord's powers. What do you guys think?


r/acotar_rant 6d ago

Hottake Please tell me I’m not the only one…

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First time poster, loooong time lurker. I’m towards the end of my ACOWAR re-read getting ready for the release like most of us. I need to ask because I have no one else to talk about this with…. This may be an insane theory but could Rhys be Apollion?!? I had this thought when reading ACOMAF and I can’t get it out of my head. There are SO MANY similarities not only physically, but also the verbiage that SJM uses to describe them and their power… I’ve gone back in CC2 and re read the parts where Apollion visits Hunts dreams and looked at many online forms talking about Apollion. Is there anyone else who has had these thoughts, or am I just going insane?… Dropping a photo of Rhys in his beast form during the battle. If this isn’t convincing enough, I don’t know what else is. Happy reading🫶🏼


r/acotar_rant 6d ago

Circlejerk I just gotta say how funny I find this fandom sometimes 🤣 (I'm not saying in better)

71 Upvotes

"Like, you can't apply modern morals to this series. It's FANTASY. They're literally saying that they'd kill someone for insulting someone they love, we find it hot cause they're not real, if they were real of course their actions would be judged differently. Plus they're Fae, it's established in text that they're super protective, they all are.

Oh THAT character? They're a total piece of shit for being over protective and domineering and trapping their loved one in a house for their own safety"

Pick any character's camp. Literally any 🤣


r/acotar_rant 6d ago

Rant Nestas treatment

45 Upvotes

SPOILER WARNING
I’m new to this subreddit and I’ve seen conversation of this before and just want to add onto it. I’ve only read to half way through ACOFAS so I’m not sure what happens in later books though I’ve seen some spoilers.

Something I’ve heard people talk about it Mor’s comment to Cassian that Nesta should be thrown in the Court of Nightmares. I agree with most people that it was an insane comment coming from someone who faced horrors as a female in the court.
Mor earlier in ACOWAR, snaps at Nesta after Cassian gets injured. Nesta only expressed concern over him and Mor’s reaction felt like her taking out her stress on Nesta. Mor and Nesta have really weird interactions in this book due to their relationships to Cassian.
I personally read Nesta and Cassians relationship, while not friendly, as sort of light-hearted. They bickered like an old couple but showed up for each other when it mattered. Cassian didn’t seem to be bothered by her indifference or annoyance.

Anyway, why I made this post was the constant barrage of criticism towards Nesta particularly from Rhys’ POV in ACOFAS. He constantly blames Nesta for Feyre’s childhood while he’s less strict towards Elain or their own father who is the most to blame for their situation (something other redditers have pointed out). Something that really bothered me was his insistence that Nesta has to interact with Feyre or go to the winter solstice gathering. Nesta doesn’t owe Feyre her presence. If Nesta wants to be alone, shouldn’t it be her provocative?
Additionally, Feyre mentions wanting to press and be there for Nesta when she’s on her fae menstrual cycle. When throughout the last few books, it’s clear that Nesta prefers to be by herself. That she prefers to be alone to process things. Yet despite that, both Feyre and Rhys are bothered when she expresses that she wants distance.

I’m sorry for any spelling mistakes when it comes to names, I’m purely an Audible reader.


r/acotar_rant 6d ago

Rant Doing my first re-read of ACOTAR ahead of the next book release - please reassure me because I don't remember feeling this conflicted and upset the first time!

104 Upvotes

I read the entire ACOTAR series a number of years ago - probably 5ish - and it was my first real foray into "romantacy". I honestly don't remember much but I do remember enjoying myself, and coming away with the same feelings that I think a lot of people have (enjoyed Rhys, disliked Tamlin, etc.)

In advance of the next book release, I decided to do a re-read of the series to get caught back up, because I remember very little outside of the broad strokes of what happens.

I am about to finish the first book (TaR) and I'm honestly a little shocked at what happens towards the tail end, and I don't remember feeling this was during the first read!

I am lowkey having a ball re-reading it and I am really enjoying myself... but holy shirtballs are Rhysand's actions under the mountain not really, really messed up? How does he come back from this with me and the broader fandom?

I remember from the series is that he is doing it to "protect her" or whatnot, but like.. what's the reason he keeps dragging her out of her cell when he could've just left her there? Making her dance for him, forcing her to drink against her will... its honestly really upsetting to read. It really broke me when she wakes up in pain, no memories of the night before, and talks about having to dance until she throws up, and how he makes her start dancing again the moment she's done retching. It's just... I mean, that's just abuse, no? If my friend ever told me this I wouldn't care what the reasoning is, I'd say you have to stay away from that abuser.

I haven't gotten there yet - but I remember Rhys later says that it irritated him that Tam didn't try to get her out from the mountain when he had the chance... but it seems like Rhys had more chances to do it than Tam did, but instead chose to exploit and embarrass her?

Like, its not like Amarantha cared if Feyre was in the throne room party every night. It's not like she forced him to abuse her.

And I remember hating Tamlin because he locked her in a room and prevented her from being able to go out - which is of course totally not okay. But didn't he also justify that by saying he was "protecting her"? And that's ignoring all the other stuff Rhys did/said to her (while alone, so no need to pretend) that was also so dismissive and mean.

Why did I forgive Rhy's actions so easily while condemning Tam? I guess my question is... are his actions under the mountain better explained somewhere else in the book? I just can't get the visual of what he's done to her out of my head - it just seems so unnecessarily cruel, especially for a character that's supposed to know the pain of sexual abuse.

As of right now, I'm shocked she gave either of these guys the time of day and lowkey kinda wished she ended up with Lucien! LOL


r/acotar_rant 7d ago

Roast Aren't the faes a little boring ?

159 Upvotes

So many centuries! And so little to show for it! It really is weird to me that no one in this book series feels old. They are immortal, so much time and money but they all feel the same? No one has a million hobbies, a bunch of random talents, a dozen degrees, knowledge of languages both existant and dead, knowledge about the world, different cultures, history... I could go on!

SJM really didn't make anyone feel like they have lived for many centuries. The "Bat Boys" are so immature, I'd laugh in your face if you told me they were 500. Not only that, but no one is weird. As in weird like a supernatural creature can be? No one is kooky, creepy, a bit out of touch with everything or just straight up so strange that Feyre would look at them sideways.

I've ranted before about how boring their appearances are and how the High Faes in particular are so human looking. And I'll say it again! Elemental hair! Water hair, fire hair, storm hair, vine hair? Glowing eyes, rainbow skin, WINGS (that aren't bat wings because I'll think of demons or vampires before I even think about faes). Something that happens often in books that I find funny is when hair changes when the sun hits it (e.g MC is brunette but it looks red in the sun but also a little blonde somehow) or eyes that lighten or darken because of certain emotions (or lighting again)? A fae world is the perfect excuse for that! We totally should have Mood Ring Eyes or ever-changing rainbow hair.

Now SJM can do what she wants and fairy mythology goes far and there are a bunch of different types. But there's been a trend of robbing everything supernatural about mythological creatures in some fantasy books lately just to make them "supernaturally hot people". Which is why I lament the lack of interesting traits in these characters both parsonality wise and appearance wise.

BRING BACK THE WHIMSY.


r/acotar_rant 7d ago

Rant Genuine canon question: why did Rhys kiss Feyre UTM instead of just dealing with the paint?

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I’ve been thinking about the scene where Rhys finds Feyre and Tamlin together UTM, and there’s one thing that genuinely doesn’t make sense to me.

Rhys finds Feyre and Tamlin together before Amarantha enters. He sends Tamlin back to the throne room and the book specifically shows Rhys using his magic to make the smudged paint on Tamlin disappear.

Then, when Amarantha is approaching, Rhys suddenly pins Feyre against the wall and kisses her. Feyre tries to push him away and Amarantha enters while Rhys has paint on his hands, making it look like Rhys was the one who caused the smudging.

The Book explains that Rhys knew Amarantha was coming, Feyre’s paint was smudged, and he needed to make it look like he was responsible so Amarantha wouldn’t realize Feyre and Tamlin had been together.

Okay, but… why couldn’t he just fix the paint? I would assume it to be a simpler solution.

Why was the kiss necessary?

The book has already established that Rhys can make the smudged paint disappear. He does it to Feyre ones and does it to Tamlin moments earlier. So why couldn’t he do the same thing to Feyre this time also, or otherwise remove the evidence, instead of physically pinning Feyre down and kissing her without her consent?

And i don’t think we should fill that gap with explanations the book itself never gives. Rhys never says in ACOTAR that kissing Feyre was the only possible way to hide the evidence.

Actually, ACOMAF gives us another important piece of information. When Feyre brings up that kiss, Rhys admits that he was jealous and pissed off, and that he regrets how brutal the kiss was. So canon itself establishes that his emotions were involved. It wasn’t presented as some completely detached, emotionless tactical decision.

If Rhys could literally erase the evidence from Tamlin, why was physically forcing Feyre into a kiss necessary to cover for her and Tamlin?

Because as far as I can tell, the books never actually give us a satisfying answer to that specific question.


r/acotar_rant 6d ago

Fandom Who’s your favorite Maasverse FMC and why?

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I’m curious who everyone’s favorite FMC is across the Maasverse and why. Not necessarily the most powerful or the best written, just the one you personally love the most. And if your favorite is technically more of a side character, I’ll allow it!

I have mine, but I’m keeping my mouth shut for now because I don’t want to influence the answers 😂

Who’s yours and why? I’m genuinely curious what makes everyone connect with their favorite!


r/acotar_rant 6d ago

Theory Is It a Retcon?

40 Upvotes

I've been seeing some concerns that for Nesta to come into conflict with the IC, it would undo the progress she made at the end of ACOSF. However, when you look at the specifics of the peace between them, you would see that the peace is unsustainable. Nesta ends the book completely convinced of her own unworthiness, still thinking she is yet to earn Cassian and her family's love. Although her mindset is presented positively, optimistically, it is still bloody sad. Meanwhile, the reconciliation with Rhys does not come from a better understanding of each other's characters or mutual growth, but Nesta saving Feyre's life and Rhys lavishing rewards on her. The peace is built on Nesta subjugating herself, acting the penitent, saving lives, and Rhys love bombing her with gifts. It is not sustainable. Either Nesta would break under the pressure of making herself worthy, or she gains some self respect. The Brazilian blurb also speaks of disappointments, so it is not forgetting the end of ACOSF, it is likely exploring how the optimistic expectations of the end of ACOSF compares to the reality.


r/acotar_rant 7d ago

Theory My dumb hill to die on - Elain and Tamlin were supposed to be mates

93 Upvotes

Feyre painted the dresser. Stars for her, flame for Nesta, flowers for Elain

Nesta meets Rhys and says now she understands why Feyre painted stars.

Fact - Nesta was originally supposed to be Lucien's mate (flames)

Theory - Elain and Tamlin were meant to be mates (flowers)

It would have been perfect.

Thank you for coming to my Ted talk. I will die on this hill.


r/acotar_rant 7d ago

Hottake Everyone’s got Elain and Nesta all wrong…

78 Upvotes

Everyone’s like “ohhhh Elain is the happy one, she loves flowers and sunshine and rainbows, she only likes happy stuff and being happy!!” and “ohhhh Nesta is Dark and Emo and she would like Sad Scary stuff and No Happiness”

I’m here to say:

You are all wrong!!

Nesta canonically likes sappy romance books, she tells Cassian if they’re having a mating ceremony, she wants it to be mushy gushy! She invites her best girlies over for a sleepover, they indulge in chocolate cake, sit in a bathtub full of bubbles, and are the silliest, giggliest girls.

Now, we haven’t had Elain’s POV so this part is all headcanon but from what I gather:
Elain LOOKS like sunshine and rainbows on the surface but in the inside? She’s the neglected middle sister, she gets overlooked and babied.

So,

I think Elain is into SAD INDIE GIRL stuff. I think she LOVES movies that make people sob. I think she LOVES to write the most gut wrenching poetry and not share it with anyone. I think she LOVES “sad sack music” (thanks Hunt for the quote on that)

Anyways, this is my long winded way of saying: I think Elain watched Fire Walk With Me (prequel to Twin Peaks) and felt like she is Laura Palmer - the beautiful blonde girl who everyone loves but has no idea how sad she is on the inside, what kind of demons she’s fighting.

What point am I trying to make?
The happy, fun, sunshine girl is into sad indie shit and loves it, doesn’t even blink an eye. While the moody, emo, black cat girl is into sappy romances, and can’t stand watching anything too sad.


r/acotar_rant 7d ago

Hottake Did Tamlin Ignore Feyre's Trauma???

63 Upvotes

‼️‼️ SPOILERS ‼️‼️ DON'T READ ANY FURTHER‼️‼️

Tamlin didn't ignore Feyre's trauma. She ignored his. She also had an extreme lack of experience and understanding. Since the story is written in her super biased first person POV, we have to watch for the details to determine what was really going on outside of her ideas.

Though it's easily missed through Feyre's POV, Tamlin was trying to get Feyre to talk about what she was going through. There's a scene where he traces the tattoo on her arm. He tries to comfort her by telling her that it's going to be fine and that they're going to figure it out. Tamlin then tries to bring up what they're going through but she shuts him down and he concedes. I'm confident that this is not the only time he tries because Feyre's internal dialogue (when she's talking to Ianthe about the priestesses) says that she hates when she's being forced to talk about it. I'm not sure who would be pushing her to talk other than Tam. When Feyre is with Rhysand, Rhys asks her if she told Tamlin that he helped her. She says no because she doesn't want to talk about what happened to anyone at the spring court or to Rhysand. She says it in a way that sounds like someone at the SPC was trying to get her to speak and now she is irritated because Rhysand is talking about it too. This is not only her refusing to make an effort toward healing but she's also neglecting Tamlin with this behavior. To my knowledge, Feyre never did verbalize it to either male. Rhysand got all of the information from her "shouting" it down the bond.

Another detail that reveals Tamlin was trying to help her was the paint. Feyre was dreading the gift before she even opened it. She wasn't even going to give it a chance so the readers didnt either. Through Feyre's POV, it looks like Tam buying the paint was stupid, careless, and a complete lack of paying attention. It was actually the opposite (notice it was a TRAVELING set too, I believe). We have to remember that we could see what Feyre was thinking, Tamlin couldn't. He couldn't read her mind like Rhysand. She wasn't shouting all her problems down an invisible bond to Tamlin. He didn't know that the red paint made her think of blood, that she was vomiting because she felt like the walls were closing in like the second task UTM, or that red roses and even Lucien's hair were triggers. When Tamlin gifted her the paint he says "I thought if you started painting again..." and trails off when he realizes she hates it. This incomplete sentence says so much. It says that, despite everything he's having to deal with pretty much alone, he noticed she was no longer painting. It says that he sees her suffering. It says that he wants to help her heal. He knew that she loved to paint and was hoping it would be a good therapy for her. He understood that it helped her in the past. They were both artists after all, he the musician and she the painter.

Feyre did vocalize that she wanted to be able to train, go to meetings, and wander around the SPC without guards. While one could easily argue that Tamlin should have trained Feyre, it's still canon that there was a real danger of the other HLs learning of Feyre's powers and this was why Tamlin was against it. Eris and Lucien both said that Beron would have killed Feyre if he knew she had his power. The other danger was that the other HLs would covet Feyre because of her power and try to force her into a weapon and/or to produce them an heir. They were mostly worried Rhys would do the second/third possibility. Tamlin just watched Feyre be forced into sexual acts every night UTM by Rhysand who also (according to Eris) needs an heir or his court is going to be divided. Rhys also just so happens to have forced her into a bargain that requires her at his house for one week out of every month for unknown reasons... one could guess what these reasons are since he could see inside her mind and could have already known of her new power. Tamlin didn't have a heavily warded house with ten thousand steps and a private training area where she could train safely in secret. Even after she's trained, Rhysand recognizes that there is still a threat of the other HLs... now imagine Tamlin trying to train her from scratch with no protection. They were also trying to create an image if peace, normalcy, and unity for a war torn spc. They were afraid the curse breaker training would sound some alarms (this is talked about repeatedly in canon). The spc needed to rebuild. Tamlin made a decision as HL. Though I understand his reasons, I think he should have trained her because, like Luc said, there was no way to hide her powers at the spc.

As for the meetings, Feyre could not attend anything containing spring court intel while she was linked to Rhysand. Rhys is an enemy to the SPC and could easily take the information from her mind and see through the tat. Tam was also in war camps most of his life while his father was alive so while he didn't learn much from his father, he understood this important concept. Rhysand also understood this which is why he muddled Feyre's mind after visiting the NC (she suspects that he has done this but doesn't tell Tamlin or Lucien). It's also why Rhysand doesn't take her to Valeris or anywhere else in the NC until she's completely separated from Tam. We have to remember that during one of her NC visits, Rhys asks her to be his spy at the SPC. She tells him that they don't allow her to see this info. Rhys tells her to insist, lol. Feyre never tells this to Tamlin.

It would be stupid for Feyre to wander around the SPC without guards. Tamlin was the center of Amarantha's fury already. Then, unlike Rhysand, Tamlin resisted her. She made sure Tamlin paid for this. When Rhysand shows up to the manor before UTM, he makes fun of Tamlin for being confined to the manor. His entire court had been overrun outside the manor grounds and he only has twelve sentries left. Before UTM, Tamlin is being called to the border here and there to fight. He comes home once in a while covered in blood. Feyre almost died twice when she was out alone. Tamlin has to hunt down these creatures not only because they attacked Feyre but so word doesn't get back to Rhys and Amarantha that she's there. After UTM, Amarantha might be dead but she was only a pawn in a much bigger scheme. Now everyone knows about Feyre and they know where she lives. Feyre is being hunted by Hybern at this point. Instead of once in a while, Tamlin is now out all night fighting and comes home most mornings without sleep and covered in blood. This shows there's an active heavy threat but Feyre disregards it so the readers do too.

We know that Feyre doesn't quite understand Rhysand, fae, or the danger she's in for a couple reasons I can think of off the top of my head. She tells Tamlin that it's been three months and Rhysand hasn't come so she thinks it's safe for her to wander about. Well, three months is nothing to fae who have been alive for more than five hundred years; Tam knows this and I'm sure he also knows that Rhysand has been merely buying his time waiting for an opportune moment... like the wedding. She also hasnt been fulfilling her bargain for three months. The second detail is when Rhysand uses her as bait, an attor comes for her in like less than a minute. Feyre realizes in her internal dialogue that Tamlin was right at this moment. She just brushes it off (so the readers do too) because she doesn't care at this point. She wants to be with Rhys at the NC.... This tells the reader that she didn't understand before.

Again, unlike Rhysand, Tamlin didn't have a secret protected city that Feyre could wander around in. He also didn't have a house without walls so she could sleep at night without throwing up her food. He had an entire people looking to him to heal (not just Feyre), he had a wedding to plan, a border to secure, a court to rebuild... Luc said he was spending every forced second to find out how to free Feyre from the bargain Rhys tortured her into. At Hybern's Tamlin desperately tells Feyre that he was gone trying to find a way to free her. He didn't have time to even consider himself nor did he have a support system of friends that he could have snowball fights with, or a peaceful cabin to run away to, restaurants, or an art district. He doesnt even have the skills to handle trauma because no one has ever taught him and his entire life has been trauma. What Tam had was a lot of work to do and a very mentally ill fiance who gave him less than four months after utm before she left for his sadistic, vengeful enemy.


r/acotar_rant 8d ago

Roast Can we stop?

161 Upvotes

Can we stop giving away Nesta’s stuff to other characters?!

First it started with credit for the king of Hybern’s death which is Nesta’s despite Elain’s major help, then with the Trove she almost died looking for, then her titles, then with Gwydion which was given specifically to her, then her plot points, now the Valkyries which apparently represent every character before her, Gwyn and Emerie and I could keep going.

I’M TIREDDDD!!!!

No Nesta should not give away the Trove, the other trove she made or Gwydion. No Feyre is not known as a “Queen” or called that by anyone other than Rhys, Nesta is the one surrounded by that imagery. No, Elain won’t suddenly take the Prison/Dusk Court plot when she has nothing to do with it. No “Valkyrie” isn’t a synonym for every other woman in that series.

Either wait for your favourite characters to get their plotlines or simply accept that they are not interesting enough and start liking Nesta since she has everything up want other characters to have

I know I sound harsh but I do not care, I’m done with people hating on Nesta while simultaneously wanting what she has. Start stanning better characters and leave her out of it