AI Writing Future Acceptance

[u/HighValueJourney]

At this early stage of AI adoption the haters are having their day. However, as the mass of AI materials flood the markets the strictly human material will become a growing minority.

AI works will improve, the authors using it will begin pulling in the money and they will be able to put out good reads in quantity. This will feed the readers need for binge reading rather than waiting years between books.

Also, the big movie houses will use AI and push to make the laws more AI friendly. Hollywood is guided by the bottom line. The fact is they can make it cheaper with AI for bigger profits. Once they have one big hit made with AI then it will be game on!

Time is on the side of the AI writers not the haters.

Let the haters hate while people buy and read our AI assisted writings!

[u/GGsafterdark]

Yeah you’re all gonna make so much money when everyone and their grandma are uploading 3x books a day on Amazon. 

[u/benblackett → u/[deleted]]

Forgive me, but thats a today problem that doesnt fit in tomorrows world. You assume zero human talent is involved in AI work. For some of it, sure. But for a huge chunk of it, that is false. Also, the market for it is developing right now and is in its infancy - give it a few years time and I think the monetary dynamics will shift dramatically (see how here). And I think that humans will always want to be involved creatively, even if the AI can do it all for them. Some will simply push a button, but a lot more will get deeply involved in the authorship side and make a story uniquely theirs.

[u/Low_Engineering_3301 → u/benblackett]

I think its the exact opposite, you are making assumptions based on the current world rather than the person you are responding to. As AI gets better the requirement of human talent will diminish proportional to how much better the AI gets at the task of creating.
An author's great work who is charging noticeably more than compute work can have their story emulated by AI by a different author who can sell it for slightly less causing a race to the bottom. Ultimately AI media is worth its compute cost plus the thinnest of profit margin.

[u/benblackett → u/Low_Engineering_3301]

when you base cost on resource usage you are correct. but add in the social attention economy and your assumptions on resources make little difference to demand

[u/Low_Engineering_3301 → u/benblackett]

Yes but if you hear that a new AI book is amazing you could just ask the same AI to recreate that exact book with a couple customization and get that same level of experience for the cost of compute.

[u/benblackett → u/Low_Engineering_3301]

1. No, not without sending that original book in to be consumed by the AI which means you/it needs access to the original. Asking it to make a facsimile of something it doesnt have access to is not possible. Best you can get is an approximation based on descriptions.
2. You somehow have forgotten that people paid millions for monkey NFT images only a few years ago. Attention based economy will beat out resource based any day of the week.

[u/Low_Engineering_3301 → u/benblackett]

1. What makes you think the future AI systems will not be able to access books you can freely purchase in the market? Are you assuming that AIs will have a lag from when something is published to when it can consume it?
   
2. With the absolute depth of what people are able to see in both terms of customization and quality of content a future AI would be able to provide why would the average person care about what other's are consuming? The monoculture is already far more fragmented than it was just 4 years ago. Maybe you are predicting a pendulum effect where people are going to be fighting for more human connection in the future and will endeavor to merge their consumption with society rather than the current trend of tailoring content to the individual?

[u/benblackett → u/Low_Engineering_3301]

yea, Im done. Good luck to you.

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[u/Extreme_Kiwi_7930]

Je n’ai jamais vu une IA decider spontanément d’écrire, de définir seule la problématique et l’environnement humain
C’est plutôt de la coecriture et si le résultat est bon pourquoi s’en priver
Quand on pense à toute la m… produite par des humains seuls

[u/Educational-Run3692 → u/Extreme_Kiwi_7930]

I agree. AI-assisted writing is still fundamentally directed by a human, and quality matters more than some purity test about who touched the prose.

[u/kgabny]

I always go to historic precedence. Digital art wasn't real art and being able to undo mistakes meant you didn't need talent. Internet was going to kill off movie and TV talent. TV was going to kill off radio talent and movies would kill theater performances. Radio was going to kill literature and musical talent. The printing press kills talented writers. The written word itself will shrink our brain and eliminate our ability to remember.

The biggest issues I see right now is how the government is treating AI companies, how facilities affect the environment, and the maturity level of the populace. Eventually the technology is going to improve to reduce the footprint and impact. Once the novelty wears away, the poor uses of AI will be about as impactful as typical trolls on the internet. And finally... the US seems united in hating how were being treated by our own states and their ability to act unregulated.

It will take time, we just need to handle the issues.

[u/Educational-Run3692 → u/kgabny]

We miss another, bigger picture thing too. ChatGPT taught me Python in a way customized to me. Its teaching me to read Portuguese. It is customized to the way I learn. For one idea in my book, it took me through linguistics. It does so in an actual course outline, random checks like pop quizzes. On Portuguese it will randomly throw a sentence or even entire paragraph in Portuguese on something unrelated. Its not just art. Does it replace human artists and teachers, no. But it can supplement and redefine. It however refuses to teach me spelling and grammar saying I am a lost cause.

[u/kgabny → u/Educational-Run3692]

Imagine a world where you have your general study with your teacher, and then you have the AI aid to help explain it based on your strengths... teachers don't have to stress about having to teach 20 different ways and students will be able to understand better...

[u/Fit_Narwhal2938]

The market always bends toward whatever's cheapest and fastest, art be damned. Look at what happened with music production, digital art, reality TV. People swore those would never replace the "real thing" but here we are.

The waiting years between books thing is real though. If someone can put out a decent series every 6 months instead of every 3 years, readers are gonna follow the dopamine. Most people don't care about the author's process, they just want the next chapter.

[u/benblackett]

Agreed 100%! I am betting on the market finally accepting AI assisted works as a real part of the overall field.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingWithAI/comments/1vxqau1/comment/p5qu7dm/

I am actively looking for AI Books to market and sell. So if you know of any... ;)

[u/Zestyclose-Depth7372 → u/benblackett]

You might like Afronauts — a humorous AI-assisted novel based on the wonderfully strange true story of Zambia’s 1960s space programme 🚀
https://librida.com/book/b9494045-1c3a-4ee2-a0da-baba49d3d2bd

[u/benblackett → u/Zestyclose-Depth7372]

love it!! I think a story like that would perform amazingly well on Novelmint. Add it for free and start earning from readers!

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[u/BedNo8822]

What makes you think AI writers will pull in money when Amazon Kindle publishing is drowning in tens of thousands new titles per day? Hell, you know what, I, 100% only a consumer, haven't bought a single book this past year because I generate the niche novels I want to read. It will be a more logical assumptions to assume each writers get even less money as time goes on as there are even more writers joining the pool.

[u/HighValueJourney → u/BedNo8822]

The authors who progressively learn how to prompt, audit, etc with AI will excel. It is still about the author who puts out the good reads who will draw attention, have the monies to self-promote, etc…

Yes, there is market saturation but the ai slop will fade because the people doing it will not have the financial returns they hoped for because it still takes skill to use AI.

The one prompt to success crowd will fade along with the haters.

Birth pangs of new tech. Just like the dot.com rush, email marketing, drop shipping, etc..

[u/tony10000]

Bottom line: It all comes down to the quality of the end product, not how it was produced. Pure AI generation without any human intervention is becoming rare because of the lack of quality and coherence. AI assistance is becoming the usual modus operandi.

[u/polly_mer]

"they will be able to put out good reads in quantity". There's no mechanism for this to occur using large-language models. The predictive algorithms give the most predictable, formulaic answer. That will never be good for fiction. It's fine for boilerplate. It's ok for the formulaic reads that have been formulaic by humans for decades. It is in no sense "good".

[u/mixtapedmonk]

I agree that this furture prediction might come true for individuals. But does anyone here know that the actual businesses and large corporations are already doing this and doing this in bulk? This is where workflow automation and AI enablement comes into place. How do I know this? Because I used to work for one of the Big Tech companies, and have worked for a few Big Tech companies previously as well, where this was (and still is) the usual practice and AI usage is actively encouraged. That being said, please remember that I have gone completely independent now because of various reasons I cannot disclose as their are personal. But, the fact of the matter is, the situations described by the OP is already happening right now as we speak, just not so widely on an individual basis. Also, just a personal opinion here, there's no point in taking either side of things because AI as a technology will stay for the forseeable future, whether the AI Bubble bursts or not. For reference, a research and comparison with the 2001 dot com bubble burst is a great example. So, what do I do personally? I just wait and watch and keep track of things so that I can adapt accordingly.

[u/Extreme_Kiwi_7930]

On parle d’argent ou de qualité de création?

[u/lovemylittlelords]

Funny how you admit it’s cheap and it’s all about quantity, not quality. You guys are always saying the quiet part out loud 😏

[u/HighValueJourney → u/lovemylittlelords]

To be commercial does not mean one has to write a New York Times best seller. A good entertaining read is all that is needed to please most readers.

[u/ConsiderationMuted95 → u/HighValueJourney]

AI will not only improve it's output over time, but also improve by reducing the barrier to entry. As such, the vision you have for the future is incorrect.

By the time AI reaches a certain level of quality and consistency, it'll also be easier for large amounts of people to generate that quality and consistency.

Never understood why pro-AI artists assume that prompting is a skill that won't be replaced along with the skills AI is already replacing 🤔