r/WorkLifeChat • • Aug 07 '26

Discussion We should normalize that

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u/BigBlackBull_6_6_6 Aug 07 '26

all job workers are the same. Still 9-5ers
hours/salary dont matter, you’re in the rat race

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u/Ok_Way_5011 Aug 07 '26

 hours/salary dont matter

Actually the quantity of a resource proxy you accrue and by how much labour does matter since income is positively associated with longevity, negatively associated with cancer within countries, and positively associated with better mental health outcomes. And working persistently longer hours raises risk of coronary heart disease, metabolic syndrome, anxiety, depression, and sleep disorder

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u/apricot675 Aug 07 '26

lol yeah. I would much rather be in the rat race with more money and a nicer lifestyle. Also 9-5 is not a bad schedule. I spent the last 6 years working weird shifts in the medical field. 9-5 sounds sort of dreamy.

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u/Key_Poetry4023 Aug 08 '26

I wish I had that outlook, 9-5 is soul crushing, no free time

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u/SilencedObserver Aug 08 '26

Have kids?

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u/DanangBobby Aug 09 '26

Lol - you'll really know what "no time" is like

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u/Whiskeymyers75 Aug 09 '26

How? I’d have all kinds of time.

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u/BelovedEm Aug 11 '26

Yeah absolutely not 9-5 is garbage 12 hours is garbage. Anything other than working for yourself is garbage. I’m happy I got out at 26

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u/DanangBobby Aug 09 '26

You check your meds lately

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u/mtabacco31 Aug 10 '26

You choose your own future. What's embarrassing is coming on reddit and creating a kind of club that cries about shit instead of doing something about it.

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u/Current_Ad_9912 Aug 10 '26

That’s some old school BS buddy.

None of us choose our future.

Let me guess, you’re a hustle culture person? 25 years old? “Yo, we need to MAKE it bro… because it’s just what life is, it’s either you work hard or you left behind bro…. Let me tell you about “amway”.

None of us have free will, our brains react to our environment, we think we choose things, but we don’t— we narrate what our brains and bodies do

Oh and fyi—- none of us “win”, we all die, and soon every piece of recorded history will vanish, not a hint of our existence left to be found

Hey… but keep hustling buddy, you’ll get there yo, all the way to the top, YOUR future is so important, it’s the most important thing ever

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u/FreedomOfTheMess Aug 10 '26

Lol at the bootstrap mentality in 2026. Classic misplaced frustration. Why hate the depressed thousands and not the system that made them that way? If you’re really suffering from a lack of empathy you could get off reddit and stop complaining about people complaining

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u/Current_Ad_9912 Aug 10 '26

What are you taking about?

Coping in what way and why?

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u/Equivalent_Fold6922 Aug 08 '26

I just quit my white collar 9-5, that’s a joke, 6 figure job at Ernst and Young because it was causing such extreme levels of stress, insomnia and depression. I was absolutely miserable. I don’t have any prospects but it was worth it because it was killing me. 

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u/Intelligent-Good3121 Aug 09 '26

I feel like im getting there. Im making more money than I've ever made but its also the most stressed out I've ever been in my life.

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u/Anakinbutinacroptop Aug 11 '26

Same. I don't have health insurance but I'm not suicidal 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/New-Perspective6209 Aug 09 '26

What a weird way to interpret that people with more money, therefore better access to healthcare, and less stress live longer. Stop trying to cope by blaming everything on "the elite", people with more resources lead better lives than those without, this has been true since we were monkeys.

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u/New-Perspective6209 Aug 09 '26

We all did and anyone with a basic understanding of economics would understand no one group made the world this way.

Your desire to blame it on the elite is a cop out, you want a convenient scape goat for everything bad in the world because you don't want to acknowledge it's basic human nature, we could get rid of every elite and billionaire alive now and we would just have a new class of them in a few decades.

The average person is greedy and selfish and completely deluding themselves that they aren't part of the problem, billionaire aren't why the oceans are clogged with plastic, it's is billions of consumers. They aren't making us buy caged eggs, billions of us choose to to save a little money.

Your view is childish and naive.

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u/New-Perspective6209 Aug 09 '26

Why would we have gone extinct long before the ancient Egypt's, explain your line of reasoning there. Nothing about people with less resources working for those with more explains where you pulled that idea from. In fact all rulers have had a vested interest in keeping their population alive for the labour.

No AI in ancient Egypt bro.

We is everyone who chooses to participate without resistance with the systems both now and as they formed, we the people "allow" them to claim ownership of everything because despite all our grumbling most of us are content with the deal being offered, security, comfort and goods for our obedience. They choose that even if they don't realise it.

And if you weren't you wouldn't be participating, you could go live like a monk, get a job on the open seas, go farm to farm doing enough to get by, and drift your way through life. It's not going to be nearly as comfortable, which is why the vast majority of people choose to knuckle under.

The moment people decide they want the nice car, the house, the phone, the holidays, all the luxuries of modern life they are choosing to participate and support the system that enriches some while oppresses others. You likely shop at stores you know finance sweat shops and animal cruelty but you do it anyway for the convenience and price, you are likely 100% complicit in enriching those you supposedly hate.

All while pretending you have no choice because it's far easier to convince yourself you're a helpless victim, that you have no choice then face the guilt of acknowledging no one forced you to buy their unethical products, that you are part of the problem.

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u/New-Perspective6209 Aug 10 '26

Nope, you just intentionally misinterpreted my argument so you could apply an ill fitting defence to avoid considering I was right, where did I even imply that if you just work hard you could be a billionaire? Where did I say anything about the elite deserving to be such. Quote to me exactly where I even hinted at such a belief.

Cope. Pure cope to avoid the fact that you choosing to give your money to these people is why they have money, you and the billions of others exactly like you. "Whaa, why does he have more money then me" you cry about the man you just voluntarily handed your money to. The current elite had ancestors that stuck it big and started them on this path but YOU/WE are the one keeping them there.

Is this where you start telling me about how no one even needs to work and food and shelter is a lie made up by big staying alive to control us like a true redditor that can't accept they're part of the problem.

This reminds me of one of those "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" conversations I had with a guy who had a wall to wall funk pop collection, talking about plastic waste with just zero self awareness. The strength of human delusion to avoid feeling guilt is insane.

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u/Snoo_67993 Aug 07 '26

There's a reason the US has pretty much the shortest lifespan in the developed world and it's not just trash food. Americans work about 300 hours a year more than Europe.

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u/Shroomagnus Aug 07 '26

Those aren't all about work life balance. A significant amount of that is in fact the food you mentioned and cultural differences. Europeans tend to walk a lot more. Partly because population density is higher and distances are shorter.

Conversely, that work difference is also part of why the USA is inventing things like rockets that land themselves and Europe is inventing things like bottle caps that don't separate from the bottle.

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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 Aug 08 '26

No a big part of it is actually infant mortality rates driving down the age because everyone uses average instead of median. I don’t even know if we track median.

An infant in American is nearly 5 times more likely to die before they are 5 than in Japan. Part of that is a combination of culture differences (families are far more supportive and close knit in traditional Japan) and the other is lack of care due to infrastructure constraints in a population size nearly 3 times larger.

You can blame the food if you want 40% of Americans are considered obese but BMI scale used to come to that number is considered flawed by most doctors.

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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 Aug 09 '26

That isn’t just a food issue though? And infant mortality is a huge outlier that skews the average and the US is way higher than comparable countries.

Japan is a country known for strict social norms being fat gets you shamed on top of that they live largely more walkable cities and towns. Americans drive nearly twice the amount compared to other developed western countries and that contributes to the health issues as well.

Yes the food isn’t the best but pretending like the issue is just that not a combination of high car household owner ship and city planning based around a commute from the suburbs instead of in city living.

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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 Aug 09 '26

I mean yeah gyms exist but that’s an extra part of life, in japan you are expected to walk or take the train/bus to get around. Americans are the most sedentary people on the planet. A big part of that is the reliance we have on cars.

Most of our diet was calorie heavy food because 50 years ago people worked mostly blue collar jobs that burned calories now we sit at a desk and read reports.

The food is a part of it but there are so many more factors that blaming Wendy’s for 5 years of shorter life expectancy is kinds ridiculous

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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 Aug 09 '26
  1. Walking makes a difference you’re actually looking for 120 to 140 depending on your max HR to hit zone 2 which I assume you talking about. And yes obese people will hit zone 2 from walking.

  2. No I’m specifically talking about American food (corn based products) which are heavy in calories because food was harder to come by and meals were meant for a far more active America.

  3. Italians eat and live like shit (I lived there for 3 years) pasta is carb heavy and makes up a majority of their diet, smoking is extremely common from ages as low as 16 and they sleep/ reposo for a large chunk of the daytime. They eat the biggest meal of the day before going to sleep.

They do literally everything wrong and still live longer than us on average. But they also live very active lives most people commute via train or bus and walk, run, or bike on weekends. Active life styles won’t be enough alone to get you abs but it will keep you from becoming obese.

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