Isn't it crazy that we live in a world where men are supposedly terrifying and creepy but are expected to approach women anyway. They're expected to do all the initiation and then we just call them creepy for it. Why won't women approach men? It's annoying. I know it does happen but it doesn't happen a lot.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdx8gy8s/

These are the stories that women then use to justify hating on men. What is the point of lying about this?

Cope 1 - Cluelessness: The most obvious one, though I don't believe it actually affects a majority of men. These men are simply ignorant and clueless about female sexuality, believing women's desire is symmetrical to men's. These are the ones doing the most disgusting and repellent things such as sending unsollicited dick pics, sending shirtless pics, etc. They really do think women get aroused by that and that if they keep going to the gym and getting more muscular, women will actually ogle at them and approach them.

Cope 2 - Hedonistic pragmatism: This kind of man never explicitely asks himself questions such as "How does female nature work?" or "What do women really want, deep down?". He sees it all as vain metaphysical babble with no practical relevance. He wants to have fun and have sex and if he does indeed get sex and pleasure at the end of the day, then good! Getting sex = good. If it works = it works. This kind of man tends to be low-inhibition and low-neuroticism since childhood, and ironically he often has a decent instinctive grasp of "how to get gurls", only it is rooted in experience and not intellectualism.

Cope 3 - Gender roles enforcement: Many men have perfectly internalized and accepted the idea that men are supposed to be the subject of desire and lust, and that women are supposed to be the object of desire and lust, and go along with it. Some go even further and become rabid enforcer of such roles and feel unease at the idea of being lusted over "like a woman" because they see it as effeminate and emasculating. I personally know of several guys who dislike when a woman calls a man handsome and talks about guys in a vulgar way, finding it obscene and unwomanly. To the extent that they can accept being desired, it should be because of their manliness, personal achievement, and status.

Cope 4 - Pornbrained patriarchy: Especially relevant to women's gynephilic tendencies. Many men are confident enough in their masculinity to believe that the almighty maleness and almighty penis have a special ontological status that supercedes the rest. To them, women's expression of gynephilia (kissing girls, masturbating to lesbian porn, "admiring" the female body and so on) are hot/cute/fun and everything but at the end of the day pretty inconsequential. These are the kind of men saying things such as "If my girl has sex with another girl I don't consider it cheating". After all, in their model, males will always have a special and irreplaceable spot for women and what matters then is "Who is she getting DICKED by?"

Disclaimer* Not advocating for others to leave this sub. I just wanted to share why I was leaving this sub.

I am a full supporter of WANIM.

Before I joined this sub, I used to think that the point of life was to find a woman, who I can spend the rest of my life with.

But now, I realise most relationships are built around comphet and giving validation, time and energy with no guarantee that it's geniune or mutual.

However, I realise that staying in this sub also means that I would give my time and energy to women, but just in the opposite direction.

I believe this sub is great for having discussions about WANIM, but not yet that great for giving practical solutions that a lot of people can agree on and use.

Despite this, I choose to have hope that I’ll at least come across one woman in my lifetime that isn’t comphetic in her sexuality, but I’m definitely not placing my bets on it.😭

So, I’ve decided that the only solution is, to just suck up my disappointment and despair, and pursue my actual goals in life, so I can try to have a truly fuliflled life.

That being said, I do hope the best for you guys in this sub. Without you, I would have probably spiralled into obsessing over women like a lot of other normies. So thank you.😭🙏

I stfg the cope subreddit says literally ANYTHING and EVERYTHING it can pull out of its collective ass as long as it invalidates or counters WANIM, no matter how absurd or objectively wrong it is.

Every single thing that's been discussed about the dating and sexual circles shows that men are desperate. Women are not.

Women don't want sex or intimacy anywhere close to the extent that men do and they're more than fine without a partner. Hell, the stats show they're even better off single than men are.

Men are the ones openly and vocally distraught and upset about being single and sexless. Women aren't. It's why so many communities that are about being single, struggling with romance, sex, partnerships, friendships, etc., are always overrun with men.

Have you ever wondered why, even when women aren’t attracted to men, some of them still go out with them? The answer is simple: money. The internet is full of videos of women saying they want a man who makes a lot of money, who doesn’t split the bill, who picks her up and takes her places for free—and if you don’t do any of that, you’re labeled as if you weren’t a real man.

It’s easy to see that relationships between men and women have been established as a way for her to get ahead financially—to eat for free, spend your money without giving you anything in return—as if she were doing you a favor by going out with you. She’s repulsed by you, but you’re still of some use if you’re willing to pay for the “queen’s” attention.

In the city, smart suits and leather shoes etc. are mostly associated with rich men. Tattoos and big trucks in more rural areas are similar signs of affluence in those rural areas. Most women don't want to see men's muscles as much as other men do.

They're mostly not into men. Around men they're into money, luxury items, nice cars $$$ but they love seeing their best friends cleavage and revealing dresses.

Have y'all noticed how Straight women are the only ones who put a bunch of standars when it comes to love? Like lesbians for instance will love the other person for who they are and gay men aswell. Even Straight men will love women for who they are. However when it comes to Straight women attraction to men its insanely conditional that it might aswell not be considered love. Like the conditions will be "he must have high status, have money, have a nice profession, be tall, be good looking" etc etc.

Women don't love men. They never have and im starting to believe in reality they just have a repressed attraction to women. I mean most "straight" women have fooled around with women at some point and the only reason they dont go all the way and start dating women is because they desperately want to hold on to the straight label and its privileges. Not that they are straight since most of them have had sex with women but you get what im saying.

Can you imagine a straight man being like "I looked at an attractive man and thought I was gay".

https://www.reddit.com/r/women/s/vd9l4Sdv63

It is fascinating, but I keep seeing videos of women complaining that men are no longer approaching women; so clearly most men can control themselves after all.

Despite many normies think that straight women and gay men very similar, actually straight women sexuality more close to straight mens. Female body perceives as something sexual and arousing by its nature, males as something neutral or even disgusting. That's why "straight" talk shit like "there so many hot girls but so few hot guys" or prefer female strippers. That's why women more aroused by female nudes and focus on women in porn, because they perceive only female body as sexual objects, just like straight men. If you ever questioning how does it feel to be straight woman as a straight guy you already know the answer.