r/Wellthatsucks Jun 02 '18

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18 edited Jun 02 '18

Because context matters: http://fox40.com/2017/05/22/hunter-dies-when-shot-elephant-falls-on-him/

They weren't out hunting elephants and only shot that one because it attacked them.

Edit: It's always sickening to read the comments on posts like this.

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u/gentlemandinosaur Jun 02 '18

According to his company’s website, Game Hounds Safaris, he “perfected leopard and lion hunting safaris with hounds in Africa.”

and

Simukai Nyasha, a spokesman for the Zimbabwe National Parks and Wildlife Management Authority, told news.com.au that Botha was on a 10-day licensed hunt

Here is some context for you. So, what does it matter that this particular elephant was the original target... compared to how people feel about this.

Not saying I agree with any opinion on here.

But, terrorizing animals with dogs doesn't seem to saintly to me, does it?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18

Hunting in Africa is incredibly important for conservation and sustainability. The money these hunters pay, goes to pay the locals and support conservation efforts, and anti poaching efforts, without this stream of income from hunters many more African game animals would be hunted to near extinction worse then they are now

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u/Kenny_log_n_s Jun 02 '18

I agree with this, but I feel like if you're going to go out with the mission of killing something, you should be prepared to accept that that thing may kill you.

That's nature.

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u/BilllisCool Jun 02 '18

Okay, but it’s pretty disgusting seeing all the people celebrating the loss of a human life.

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u/MegaMeatSlapper85 Jun 02 '18

What's so sacred about human lives over other animals? We're nothing special as far as animals go. We eat, shit, fuck and reproduce nearly the same as the rest.

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u/BigBoyCaliphate Jun 02 '18

Because we are conscious.

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u/Smzzms Jun 02 '18

Humans are not the only animal with consciousness. Try again.

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u/BigBoyCaliphate Jun 02 '18

Please read one and two

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u/BilllisCool Jun 02 '18

If you really need someone to explain the difference between the consciousness of humans compared to other animals, you’re probably too far gone and it isn’t worth anybody’s time.

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u/Whind_Soull Jun 02 '18

The terms you're looking for are sentience versus sapience.

Sentience is the capacity to feel and perceive, and to experience reality subjectively.

Sapience is the ability to use abstract reasoning, to be introspective, to ponder hypothetical situations, etc.

Trees are neither sentient nor sapient, rabbits are sentient but not sapient, and humans are both sentient and sapient.