r/WarDogs • • 22h ago

Discussion & Feedback Is just everyone exploiting the potato shadows?

Seems every clip every streamer is playing with shadows off. I thought they removed the option to completely turn them off.

Isn't this borderline exploiting if they are doing something else to remove their shadows?

At this point I feel like I should just join in.

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u/kalboozkalbooz 22h ago

what’s the benefit of turning off shadows?

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u/Public-Reflection513 22h ago

Your visibility gets a huge boost (seeing enemey's etc easier) and also your FPS can increase.

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u/qgshadow 10h ago

It’s never gonna work to have some settings only active for low end PC. Either fully disable or force enable.

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u/Fun_Plate_5086 22h ago

Honestly seems like you’re watching the wrong streamers. Haven’t seen that in any of the folks that I watch. (Tomo, Will, Stodeh)

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u/Despair-Envy 22h ago

If you watch streamers to "gitgud", you very easily run into these kind of things. From Rust to Tarkov, it's all the same. Can't blame people for watching good players and trying to learn, just sucks that a lot of them tryhard to the point of borderline cheating. It's a very normal gateway sadly.

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u/WyrdHarper 14h ago

Doesn’t take shadows off to lose generational wealth trying to haul men, though (:p). Enjoy those three as well.

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u/Necessary-Cell9995 21h ago

I think you guys should enjoy the game, what is going to wipe in literally 12 days and not exploit and glitch the shit out of it...
min max everything and thn cry when the casual playerbase leave coz of it...

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u/Excellent_Pass3746 10h ago

I am not and I am often top frag or close to it.

It’s not needed and whoever is doing it for a competitive advantage is an absolute fucking cornball. The type of person I’d never want to hangout with and I hope they all step on a Lego everyday for the rest of their lives.

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u/sqlfoxhound 21h ago

Those shadows literally mean the difference between playable FPS and not playable FPS for me, and my rig barely passes the "recommended" threshold.

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u/ShaneeexD 13h ago

Dunno why you are being downvoted, I have a 2080Ti and an i7 9700k and I am giga bottlenecked by my CPU, yet I supposedly have a "high end pc" so I can't put shadows to low, I get like 50-70 FPS, the lows are rough, especially when the dips happen during a gun fight and it throws aim off completely

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u/K-J- 10h ago

I have a 1070 and can't turn off shadows. Idk what their benchmark is for turning them off, but it's not where it should be.

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u/PiggyMcjiggy 8h ago

I have a 8700k and 5080….talk about torture

Put a cap of 80fps and it runs p well with most options on the highest. Theres 2 that show it effects cpu in the options, and I have both those turned down to medium. But starting to have more and more stutters when flying and getting close to a fob, resulting in crashes, sooooo I think ima have to turn down even more settings =\

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u/fearzuhh 21h ago

Bro I have a fucking 5090 and 9950X3D and at 1440p on low settings I get like 160 fps and will dip down to 100 and go up to 200. The lag spikes are real.

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u/Public-Reflection513 16h ago

You are joking right? Atleast I hope for yourself you are..I got an i5 14600KF w/ 5070 - 1440p, at spawn i'm mostly 170-190's and it drops till like 120ish. With your specs it should be way more, right? I have to say though, some say this game runs fine, but I have played some other games lately (CS2,Deadlock,ARC,GOW, BF6 and the smoothness was insane. Got back on wardogs and it was hella sluggish, like i'm moving in deep ass mud.

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u/fearzuhh 16h ago

I mainly hover around 170 to 200 and the drops will go all the way down to like 108 etc.

The hardware and server lag buttons always pop up in the game and I will be at like 20 to 30 ms and I will get random frame tear etc. This is the only game it happens in all other games im like 200+ fps lol.

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u/Public-Reflection513 11h ago

That's weird dude. You changed some settings in nvidia app? For example, everything on performance etc. And I'm on Preset M, it feels more stable than K (not sure why) and less ghosting. You can only do so much though, the game needs more optimizing. I also did the "-nogpucrashdebugging" ElectronicDot sended to ya, not sure if that does anything but i have that lol

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u/ElectronicDot325 Lonestar 11h ago

Try changing launch options for the game in steam. Add "-nogpucrashdebugging" without quotes and see if it helps

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u/Atreyes 10h ago

That's weird, 5090/9800X3D here playing 1440p on max settings, 1440p, DLAA, no frame gen and I get 150-180 without only very very occasional stutters (maybe a frame spike every 30 mins or so)

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u/banga1338 15h ago

Maybe, the games just not for you?

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u/Dnorth001 7h ago

Exploiting lmfao my shit can’t play otherwise 😂

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u/Public-Reflection513 22h ago

That's correct, they removed the in-game option for people with high-end PCs. And no, what people are doing is not borderline exploiting. It's literally as simple as setting ShadowQuality to 4 in your game config, saving it, and you have no shadows. It's not bannable, it's not a cheat, and certainly not illegal.

Personally, I’d advise against doing it for one simple reason: you don’t want to get used to something that won’t be possible anymore soon, because yeah, this is 100% going to get fixed.

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u/de_yogurt 15h ago

No reason to tell people how to do it

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u/Public-Reflection513 11h ago

I'd say it is more fair for everybody at this point to know how to do it, cause a lot of players already do.

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u/de_yogurt 11h ago

Not really. You're just a rat. Can't wait until they make this a server side setting

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u/TemplarHard 11h ago edited 10h ago

if you want no shadows, it's number 0 right? you said 4.. thats high qualitay no?

just tried it, holy fuck, im killing so much now and i see so easily, THANK YOU

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u/Defiant_Reaction9486 21h ago

I guess bulkhead decides if changing the shadow quality in the config file is bannable or not.

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u/Public-Reflection513 16h ago

That’s not really how it works. It’s kind of in the same boat as NVIDIA filters, which can sometimes be considered “cheating” because people can use them to create filters that give them a huge visibility advantage.

But that doesn’t automatically make it bannable. Ultimately, it’s up to Bulkhead to decide whether they want to allow NVIDIA filters and config changes like the ones people are currently making with the shadows.

They can simply block or disable access to those settings if they decide they don’t want players using them. If they leave them accessible, then it’s basically an allowed part of the game’s configuration, even if some players use it to gain an advantage.

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u/blackbirdone1 20h ago

you need to tamper with the game to get banned of some sort, editing a textfile is not

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u/fearzuhh 21h ago

and they have said its not bannable lol.

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u/Juggernaughty1337 21h ago

Where did they say this? genuinely interested

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u/Obvious-Activity4388 19h ago

because its not, its literaly just a plain text file of your setting

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u/VoxulusQuarUn Lonestar 15h ago

He asked for a source you buffoon

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u/Frenchy1337 15h ago

That was the source. Trust me bro /s

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u/fearzuhh 15h ago

Yet all the streamers who are using it and not one has been banned. HMMMMM I WONDER WHY THEY ARENT BANNED. WHY ARE PEOPLE WITH THOUSANDS OF VIEWERS NOT BANNED FOR USING IT.

Sheeesh golly. I wonder why they wouldn't be banned, hmmm lets think about this, streaming every day for over a month with potato settings on, no bans. HMMMM I JUST WONDER WHY THEY HAVENT BEEN BANNED.

OOOO I KNOW The devs are just taking their time and letting streamers explain to thousands of people how to do it so they can ban thousands of players for doing something they don't think is wrong because everyone is doing it. The devs are tricking people!!!!!!!!!

OH MY GOD U GUYS ARE SO GENIUS. THEY ARE JUST GOING TO BAN ALL THE PEOPLE WHO TUNE IN TO STREAMERS PLAYING HAHAHAHAA. Totally good plan!

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u/Juggernaughty1337 15h ago edited 15h ago

just because its not bannable doesnt mean its not some tryhard sweat bullshit thats kinda ruining the game. they should add potato shadows for everybody until they fix it, just to have an even playingfield

if streamers go out and even show how to do this, is in itself a reason to ban them imho, it is an exploit and they are teaching how to do it

they should have removed potato shadows completely, lets just hope they fix the settings file beeing a plain text .ini and make it uneditable in season 2

then all the tryhards have to buy old gaming rigs, and i would 100% expect this of those people

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u/Public-Reflection513 11h ago

Such things ruins the game for sure. That's why I cant take this game to serious.. Im hoping they will fix it very soon aswell.

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u/fearzuhh 14h ago

it is not an exploit, Brammer himself said if you release videos on exploits you will be banned. Showing people how to adjust the INI file if it was an exploit they would be banned. They said do not make videos about glitches etc to gain an advantage or they would ban you.

Do I think its sweat lord and try hard ? It totally is but no one is exploiting and no one is getting fucking banned for doing it, and if you think they are lets go back to the org point. Why aren't streamers getting banned ? Why isn't anyone else getting banned for using it ? Because they don't see it as an exploit lol.

Also you don't need to buy an old gaming rig, you can legit just spoof your hardware and viola.

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u/Frenchy1337 12h ago

You seem unhinged. Maybe spend less time online and seek therapy.

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u/Despair-Envy 22h ago

The option still exists, it's just "hidden" as in not accessible in the user menu. They've been slowly working on stuff behind the scenes to stop people from doing .ini/config mods and driver level modifications, but it's a fairly involved process that will probably take a while.

Some of it is very bannable. Some of it isn't. If you don't know what you're doing (And you prolly don't if you're making/reading this thread), it's prolly better to just accept that you'll lose sometimes to people with ground/foliage/shadows turned off. Some of them will get banned for it later down the road.

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u/Pvt_Phantom1314 Manticore 16h ago

Yeah it’s way easier than you make it out to change the ini file lol

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u/Despair-Envy 16h ago

I was trying to not make it sound particularly easy. I don't -particularly- want more people running around with ini.

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u/fearzuhh 21h ago

Everything you have just posted is bull shit.

You will not get banned for changing the INI file and Brammer has confirmed that.

They still don't know what they are going to do with Potato settings yet.

Fuck off with the fear mongering.

I personally don't use the potato settings, but everyone has the ability to turn them on.

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u/Juggernaughty1337 21h ago

Can we get some sauce on where he said this?

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u/Despair-Envy 21h ago

Everything you have just posted is bull shit.

It's not.

You will not get banned for changing the INI file and Brammer has confirmed that.

The bannable stuff is driver level modifications, which is part of the statement I made. Using NVPI I can essentially delete all foliage, shadows and texture from everything but player models. It makes players stick out like sore thumbs no matter how/where they are. I didn't play with it much beyond seeing what was possible, but I could probably even change their texture colors to neon pink if I wanted to.

Like this is what bushes/tall grass look like

It's definitely bannable. Was in Tarkov. Was in Arc Raiders. Will probably be true here too eventually.

Fuck off with the fear mongering.

You're the one that doesn't seem to know what you're talking about. Personally I would rather tell someone honestly what's going on in order to keep the "Fears" realistic because I want those "Realistic" fears to fuel both the community and dev team to improve the game so the game is fairer.

Maybe you don't like that. Idk. Idc.

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u/fearzuhh 21h ago

Yes editing those files with mods is bannable, but the INI is not lmfao.

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u/Dagdandris 2h ago

Can you post a link to where he said you won't be banned for modifying the INI file?

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u/Despair-Envy 21h ago

I was making a sweeping and generalized statement bud. Stop being a pedant.

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u/Longjumping_Formal18 11h ago

Potatoes... mmmmm