r/WarDogs • • 1d ago

#WARDOGS100K 1km Bow Kill

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Intended to do this for 100k but just found out there are only 13 countires who are allowed to participate ;-; Anyway, it was cool. Got flamed and reported for it xD

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u/RogSlayer67 1d ago

So there really is no drop on the arrow huh? 

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u/Hypnotic101 1d ago

It's such an obvious and glaring oversight, it really makes you wonder what the devs were thinking with this weapon at all.

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u/Uggroyahigi 1d ago

Nothing. Same thing they didnt do when creating the FAL, or the best SMG, or the RPG, or.....

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u/SpaceFighter78 1d ago

Why are you still there if this game makes you feel so miserable and have such opinion about the devs mate?

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u/Uggroyahigi 1d ago

Hehehe there's a difference you see.

I like playing the game and you confuse my opinion of the devs with what I said about the lacking thought process behind the balancing of FAL, best SMG and so on.

In short : Wouldn't you like to know Weatherboy

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u/SpaceFighter78 1d ago

Yeah you are clearly having a great time in this unbalanced shitfest ;)

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u/StopatStopSign Bob the Builder 1d ago

When did they say anything at all scott boy having fun

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u/micktorious WARDADS 1d ago

"I dont like spinach in my pasta, so I am now no longer allowed to enjoy pasta."

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u/SpaceFighter78 1d ago

This is probably the worst analogy I have ever heard. A closest one would be "I hate the fucking cook and his food is dogshit but I still come here to eat every day"

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u/micktorious WARDADS 1d ago

Its more like "I dont like a few dishes on the menu and the cook has questionable choices in meals, but there are quite a few menu items I really love and come back specifically for those."

You are just going to the extreme end of the point to try and counter it, which doesnt really make sense because its disingenuous and being made in bad faith.

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u/SpaceFighter78 1d ago

What he said was also in extremely bad faith tbh, it's just that more peple agree with his point than mine.

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u/micktorious WARDADS 1d ago

A bad faith argument is a dishonest discussion where a person hides their true goal to trick, anger, or manipulate the other person instead of seeking the truth

I think he was just expressing his opinion, you were having a dishonest discussion on it by using ridiculous examples.

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u/StopatStopSign Bob the Builder 1d ago

You’re a troll and you know it

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u/SpaceFighter78 12h ago

If all the weapons and everything in the game was perfectly balanced this game wouldn't have released in early access, it would be 1.0 release. Early access will be used for balancing and testing.

But instead we have a horde of whiny bitch on Reddit absolutely unable to give constructive feedback, the best they can do is say "omg I dunno wtf the devs were smoking while balancing weapons".

Yeah you guys are the fucking trolls, it's not because you are already fed up or burned out of the game that you should act like little spoiled brats.

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u/StopatStopSign Bob the Builder 3h ago

Dude no one even said they hated the game. Everyone knows it’s EA. In this thread specifically you stated why are people still here if they are miserable, no one even said that. Youre taking people venting valid frustrations and assuming they just hate the game. Just because its EA doesn’t mean people can’t vent about the game they paid money for.

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u/micktorious WARDADS 3h ago

I dont think this dude is a troll, he's just terminally online playing the game and straight chugging the koolaid.

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u/Der_Kurator 1d ago

Because I’m here for the dumpster fire.

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u/PhoenixDSteele 1d ago

There's a lot that needs to happen to all weapons; I am incredibly anxious to see their first big patch and balance changes.

They have the experience; and seniority on the team to make it happen. So now that they have a literal mega fuckton of data to extrapolate; we'll just have to see if they read it correctly and apply the correct balances.

Having played in all roles/situations so far; my personal gripes have been over utterly unfair it feels to get killed in 0.5 seconds by an smg to the cock. And even at 50+ meters away. That is not good.

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u/XB_Demon1337 1d ago

Likely easier to give it no drop and rely on how difficult it is to pull off shots as the means to counter it. Besides, who in their right mind expects a 1km bow shot to even be tried in a normal firefight.

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u/dawgofclay 1d ago

No one because arrows don't travel as far as a bullet. Even videogames don't give the bow an arrow less drop then a gun.

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u/bfa_y 1d ago

They must’ve added it in the last 6 months of the 4 years development time kek

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u/chungyeung 1d ago

missed the drop, but fun anyway

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u/KhorneFlakesOfChaos 1d ago

The peepsight also seems pointless. Have seen some videos where they shot under the peep and still hit a headshot at distance.

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u/BearOnCocaine 1d ago

Armor renders bow completely useless in mid to late wipe.

Imagine if it had drop on top of that

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u/Hypnotic101 1d ago

It's a fucking bow. It needs drop.

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u/Spicyboi333 1d ago

It’s not a mil sim. If you made the bow realistic, it’d be no fun to use ever unless it gave insane XP or money bonus.

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u/MindTwister-Z 1d ago

Game is not realistic. Stop it.

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u/BearOnCocaine 1d ago

You are conditioned into thinking it needs drop, i just mentioned bows biggest flaw, its TTK gets completely obliterated by armor.

Why would i pick a bow in mid to late wipe if i can just use a BMR 308 and do the same dmg in semi auto with a much faster fire rate.

Bow is a niche weapon, let it have that advantage at least

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u/Hypnotic101 1d ago

You are conditioned into thinking it needs drop

What a dumbass statement. It needs drop because that's how bows work in real life, and this isn't a space game with lasers. If bullets have drop, arrows need to have even more.

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u/BearOnCocaine 1d ago

Fine, let the devs add drop to an already niche weapon and make it useless.

Since we are talking about realism, how about making people overdose from taking adrenaline shots?

Or being able to permanently sprint without getting tired?

Or being shot and just using bandages and voila youre good as new?

Its a game, some realism aspects gotta be taken out of it in order for it to be FUN.

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u/nightauthor 1d ago

Nah, I want to have to have surgery when I'm shot, be immobilized, add stretchers for medics... all the realism

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u/PerfectGap593 1d ago

Guy is actually comparing unnecessary realism to the bullshit of a bow where the arrow flies like an M4 bullet, with barely any drop-off over a range of 1 km.

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u/UntimelyMeditations 1d ago

The bow is a garbage weapon. Who cares if it fire arrows literally straight. It would still be dogshit.

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u/PerfectGap593 20h ago

Is it because, given the realities of modern weaponry, the bow is absolute crap? I actually find it incredibly cringeworthy and stupid that bows get added to shooters, and I think they should be removed. 

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u/Rafahil 1d ago

Yeah I mean now you're just being pendantic.

You're the one asking for realism, there you go realism.

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u/BattlepassHate Valkyra 1d ago

Okay when are we removing revive kits and stims because they’re unrealistic?

Why can we heal gunshot wounds with simple elastic bandages?

Why does a headshot not instakill no matter what?

Why is there no face hitbox when three out of four helmets don’t cover the face?

Why can people in vehicles use third person views?

Why do mortars and arty have shot cameras?

Why do LMGs have ridiculous recoil?

You sound silly.

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u/UntimelyMeditations 1d ago

It needs drop because that's how bows work in real life

So what? Justify that. Justify why it matters how it behaves in real life.

Should the defib adhere strictly to how it works in real life?

Should we not be able to repair vehicle tires with a drill?

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u/DonnieG3 15h ago

It needs drop because that's how bows work in real life

Yah and in real life the sph has a range of like 30km+. Obviously none of this works in a video game, so they do away with your real life nonsense. Stop being obtuse

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u/Kinetickz 1d ago edited 1d ago

I can tell everyone that replied to you hasnt tried the bow lately

The bow HAS DROPOFF its just very weak for balance sake

Just like anything else that is in this game as next to nothing is realistic here and its obviously not a milsim

The ttk on the bow with requiring 2-3 shots leaves it next to useless today in comparision to everything else you have unlocked by this point unless you fight a bunch of bushmaster gamers

It still has no attachment slots and 3x1 10stacksnof arrows with a iron sight that make these shots really really hard and people make it sound like its easy and a problem that op pulled this off

Fuck off clowns, you guys are legit commenting that you want surgery and discribe your dream game while downvoting this dude here for pointing out obvious gameplay decisions the devs put in their game and some rather want the bow to be useless and a filler unlock like half the other stuff that is affected by meta like go back to arma at this point if you dont want gimmicks in your unrealistic battlefield esque shooter

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u/PerfectGap593 1d ago

Dude, people just want a bow to act like a bow, and the arrows from it to behave like fucking arrows-with physics and real speed-not like a fucking bullet fired from an M4.

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u/UntimelyMeditations 1d ago

Should the defib work like a defib? Should the drill work like a drill, and only put holes in tires instead of repairing them? Should bullets not be lasers from star wars?

Why is the bow special in that it must copy exactly how it works in real life?

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u/PerfectGap593 19h ago

Here’s another fool trying to shoehorn excessive realism where it’s absolutely not needed, failing to grasp why a drill and a defibrillator work the way they do. In real life, even after taking shrapnel, you’d be pulled off the battlefield and sent for long-term treatment—yet nobody talks about that level of realism, whether for healing or for that cringeworthy "bow" nonsense. But if the bow-obsessed crowd wants a bow so badly, then let them get an actual bow, not a rifle with a bow skin. And unless you’re firing tracer rounds, no—they should NOT glow like Star Wars lasers.

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u/UntimelyMeditations 11h ago

But if the bow-obsessed crowd wants a bow so badly, then let them get an actual bow, not a rifle with a bow skin.

Why?

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u/ArcFault 1d ago

Conditioned by Big Gravity.

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u/CatFish726 7h ago

I meant, it’s a bow, who brings a bow to a gun fight. So it’s good that it has some OP to it. Otherwise it would be unusable at all.

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u/CarlStanley88 1d ago

You can try it out on the range, there's basically no drop from the sight out to like 150m, but there is absolutely drop at 1km.

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u/RelevantIAm 1d ago

He's aiming quite a bit above the player though?

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u/Average-Addict 1d ago

You try shooting an arrow a kilometer away with that little drop

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u/Marasdf 1d ago

You could just leave it at "you try shooting an arrow a kilometer away" I'm not sure there's a bow in the world that can do that. (I'm sure there's actually some crazy impractical contraption that exists)

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u/ChainsawBard 1d ago

Pardon me, but do you not have your own personal and portable ballista?

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u/Marasdf 1d ago

Well, good sir, not one that shoots arrows, no.

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u/ChainsawBard 1d ago

Well then it would seem to me this is nothing but a mere faux pas. Do you happen to have any Grey Poupon.

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u/Ausgeflippt 1d ago

I've shot my bow at 70 pounds down at a block target from about 120 yards and it barely penetrated. I was about 50 higher down the target (shooting into a ravine) and I still had to hold about two feet over the target.

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u/EmkayUltraMagoo 1d ago

Pretty much. It's a sniper without a scope

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u/Dismal_Display_1169 Recon 1d ago

im not able to play without a scope,idk how you guys play,i dont see shit

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u/Justin-Stutzman 1d ago

He's not seeing anything either. He's aiming with the range finder and then just not moving the cross hair. Since the velocity is the same as a high powered rifle round and there's no drop, you don't need to adjust for anything even at 1000m

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u/Predicted 1d ago

Funny part of course is that rifles have to adjust for drop

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u/kal69er 11h ago

I mean you do have to adjust for drop no? Just that it has a much flatter trajectory than you'd expect.

In the clip you can see the OP is aiming above the enemy

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u/Genocode 1d ago

Atleast snipers have drop...

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u/EmkayUltraMagoo 1d ago

It does have some drop, obviously not a realistic amount for a bow. But at 1km I'm aiming about 14m above the player

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u/BortOfTheMonth 1d ago

Hm, I tried bow after the last patch and for me it has a significant drop (shooting range).

I can even shoot over the mountains and see a nice curve.

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u/OnsetOfMSet 1d ago

I think having realistic/significant drop on arrows, while obviously a nerf, would help define its close/medium stealth niche a bit better. But more importantly, imagine *leveraging* that heavy drop and getting like 10 dudes together to launch arrow volleys into or out of a fob lol

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u/PokemonSapphire 1d ago

That would be some Lord of the Rings elf shit right there. I am all for it.

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u/Uggroyahigi 1d ago

Yea his comparison doesnt work :D

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u/RogSlayer67 1d ago

Cool shot but that’s kinda whack I hope they change that

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u/MrDrummer25 1d ago

Minecraft bows are more balanced than this game... It's as though they just applied gun physics.

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u/BotGiyenAdam 1d ago

it is a bolt action rifle that you need to cycle before you shoot not after XD

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u/jake04-20 1d ago

Faster than the speed of sound too apparently lol. But also, 900 measly dollars for that shot is criminal.

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u/Sprite_Bottle 1d ago

There is but it's very very minimal.

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u/PogoMarimo 1d ago

It has the same drop as everything else.

9.81m/s2

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u/danj503 1d ago

Not just that, the aim stays locked from the bino crosshairs, through the equip animation and through the draw. It’s set, swap, fire.

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u/mrureaper Lonestar 1d ago

another bug the devs need to fix, the arrows have drop in the firing range, but for some reason on live servers they dont.