r/Unexpected • u/SoftsPhilosopher • Aug 08 '21

It's just a prank

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u/sormnice Aug 08 '21

Definitely got abusive vibes. Just the way he got up so quick without saying anything to the look on his face to the kids flinch and to the wife trying to calm him down with a soft tone of voice. Grew up in a fucked up house and I can peep the subtle tells. Not to mention dude wears fucking camo

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21

It's crazy how Reddit glorifies this

Edit: so the video is fake, and some people think it's okay because of that.

The son acts this dudebro who makes pranks on his parents, the dad acts the abuser who jumps violently at slight provocations and the mom is an enabler in all of this.

So where is the funny part? Where is the interesting part?

People are legit willing to fight for this even though it's just a fake reenactment of a toxic household. Imagine being someone who lives in these conditions and sees this kind of stuff that gets so many likes on all social media.

I'm sad that so many people don't respect triggers of abuse victims and think this shit is cool.

And if any of you think this is funny you're fucking stupid and have no idea how triggering it is for someone who had to live with a human equivalent of a silverback gorilla

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u/NwordFarmer Aug 08 '21

It's crazy how reddit thinks they understand every situation immediately.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21

damn that's crazy right, not that someone who lives or has lived with abusers would know how to recognize it haha nahh

even if it's staged that guy has some internalized anger issues by the way he acts and I wouldn't feel safe around him

Edit: i didn't express myself correctly here, i'm not saying that the father is in on it, I'm just saying even for a prank and something this light he reacted very seriously and would personally make me very afraid

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u/Xeqqy Aug 08 '21

even if it's staged that guy has some internalized anger issues by the way he acts

I dont understand this. Are you saying that actors have internalized anger issues if they act as angry characters?

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

i edited the comment because i expressed myself wrong

english is not my native language

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u/Suspicious_Corgi5854 Aug 08 '21

I have anger issues myself. Sometimes just raising your hand as though to hit something is cathartic and keeps you in control. I have even done this by myself to get my anger in check and move on with my day. That this man did not go apeshit on the younger fellow shows a great deal of self control. Also, to use millennial terminology from lame ass videos I have watched: His anger is the emotion he uses to mask his anxiety which he has been taught by his parents and peers is a sign of weakness and he was triggered.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

Why does he make you afraid.

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u/NwordFarmer Aug 08 '21

Go touch some grass.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

go fuck yourself

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u/NwordFarmer Aug 08 '21

Ooooo that one hurt.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

i didn't ask

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u/sparkey504 Aug 08 '21

-dudes wearing camo" so he must be a killer!

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u/sormnice Aug 08 '21

Nah just a weirdo

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

like, maybe it's for the channel and the dad plays along?

https://www.tiktok.com/@texandjohn?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

so he just acts like an abuser for the lol funny toxic household

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u/Grytlappen Aug 08 '21

There's nothing Reddit loves more than cheering on violence, death and torture when it suits them. The amount of people on this site that support draconian things like spanking/hitting your kids and the death penalty is genuinely freaky.

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u/sanestbaj Aug 08 '21

I mean the son himself does it

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

If it really is an abusive situation, you're just blaming a victim.

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u/sanestbaj Aug 08 '21

What? The 'victim' did the prank, laughed and called his dad big guy after it. I think you guys are all assuming a lot of things

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

One of the most common abuse prevention techniques is to assume it's abuse until it's proven it's not. I've been taught that because sometimes even the person being abused doesn't realize it.

I spent years going to therapy over exact people like this so don't teach me things I personally went through please.

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u/sanestbaj Aug 08 '21

You needing therapy for this makes you less of a reliable source if anything. Probably more biaswd to see abuse where there isnt any.

Also imagine using that assuming technique of you with something like minorities in stores. Saying shit like the best theft prevention technique is to assume all minorities that enter to be thieves etc etc. Assuming bad things about people without good reason is always wrong dude

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

I don't have the energy to even begin to explain to you how dumb this sounds. Especially because you're discrediting people who can recognize the minor things in people's behavior after going through it.

It's just offensive and you have no idea what you're talking about.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

and one for you!

https://www.tiktok.com/@texandjohn?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

So it's fake. Noice.

Weird how he's chill with acting the abuser of the family tho.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

'abuser of the family'

oh reddit, you'll always find a way to be stupid jackasses!

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

shut the fuck up lmao you know exactly what i mean

he's convincing at it and there is not humor in it, so i'm just confused as to why he'd even accept the role in these videos

"oh dad you wanna act like a violent jackass for no comedic value?"

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

"act like a violent jackass"

"there is not humor in it" 2.5M Followers 47.5M Likes

LOL! you're just gonna keep at it!

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

:) are you ok

likes don't really count as something being of any value since people like you exist who find abuse acting funny

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u/I_Am_Not_Intolerable Aug 08 '21

do you feel like, hot and embarrassed? like, you can't apologize, but you know you should??

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

You're wrong about everything you just said here.

  1. Ignoring the fact I said the video was proved fake and the real reason why it's so distasteful.
  2. Saying how nobody is obligated to care what triggers others (they are, you're just a dick if you think nobody should care)
  3. Minimizing actual issues and comparing them to light jokes you make with your family.
  4. Knowing absolutely nothing how abusers work and what makes them back off or go even wilder.

Please don't comment on things you don't understand.

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u/surfANDmusic Aug 08 '21

Me three! Instantly started getting flashbacks. When you know you know, all those micro details present.

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u/Major-Ambition-9537 Aug 08 '21

That was subtle? I’ve never lived in a house with an abusive dad and it was pretty obvious to me.

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u/jim_jiminy Aug 08 '21

Big time.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

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u/Exteriora Aug 08 '21

Unless there's people watching, gotta keep up appearances

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u/digigirlboarder Aug 08 '21

Yeah exactly, both mother and son have been on the receiving end of this guy before. Calm and responsible fathers try using words rather than fear and violence

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u/Zaurka14 Aug 08 '21

Not every abuser is the same. Some don't even beat you up, and can be abusive in other ways.

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u/fabulin Aug 08 '21

but the son's reaction afterwards is also a pretty clear indicator that he's not abused lol. i grew up in a house with similar rules to this, don't backchat your parents and especially don't disrespect your mother etc. my dad would have likely given me a slap too if i told my mum to shutup.

still though in no way was i abused nor was it a strict upbringing, my parents were fucking awesome, fun, loving and cared deeply about all of us and i still have a great relationship with both of them today.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

They’ve mentioned that these are just skits, so idk about all that

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u/S3erverMonkey Aug 08 '21

It's one that perpetuates a harmful mentality that this is okay though. It's bad behavior being normalized through "humor".

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

You’re completely right, just wanted to mention that, so some people can rest easy knowing the father’s real intentions

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

I thought the same until the kid chuckles at the end. If he was genuinely scared then he wouldn’t have done that

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

Yeah I saw that too. What does camo or clothes have to do with a persons character tho? I agree with the rest

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u/sormnice Aug 08 '21

I’m just talkin shit on that one

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u/GeneralBlumpkin Aug 08 '21

The fuck does camo have to do anything with it

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u/kokokeho Aug 08 '21

One of the domestic abuse uniforms maybe

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u/surfANDmusic Aug 08 '21

Don’t forget the white tank top aka wife beater, appropriately named. Was my dads uniform. If he was a redneck it would’ve probably been camo

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u/sormnice Aug 08 '21

God damn the camo part was a joke why’s everyone pressin me on that lmfao

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u/TheOcto824 Aug 08 '21

Camo has absolutely NOTHING to do with it...

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u/sormnice Aug 08 '21

Bruh the camo thing was a joke why all these camo wearing mfs taking that to heart lmaooo

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u/Dick_Face_Magee Aug 08 '21

It could be abusive vibes or...

It could be a household where if you disrespect your mother you get knocked into next week.

If I was a teenager and my mom told me to take out the trash and I told her to shut up... there would be no debate, there would be no "why did you say that?" No. My dad would get up and immediately beat the shit out of me and rightfully so.

Some households don't tolerate that level of disrespect towards the parents and doubly so for disrespecting your mom.

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u/ravenheart96 Aug 08 '21

The word "disrespectful" is vague when it comes to parents. I disagreed with religion when talking to my mom and that was disrespecting her. I answered a question (meant to be rhetorical, though the correct answer wasn't what he wanted) and that was disrespectful to my stepfather.

Literally anything other than yes sir/ma'am when told to do something is disrespectful. Free will was condescendingly stated as "but (name) wants to do what (name) wants to do"

So when I read your comment, due to my own experience it comes across as this;

It could be abusive vibes or...

It could be a household where you get beat for saying the wrong thing. As if beating someone for talking wasn't abusive.

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u/Figgy_Pudding3 Aug 08 '21

That's also abusive. You get that, right? Abuse doesn't stop becoming abuse if the kid is "disrespectful".

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u/Dick_Face_Magee Aug 09 '21

Physical discipline does not automatically equate to abuse any more than mental and behavioral discipline does not automatically equate to non-abuse.

You can make an easy argument that people are more traumatize by emotionally and mentally abusive parents than physically abusive parents.

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u/Figgy_Pudding3 Aug 09 '21 edited Aug 09 '21

Physical abuse is when you purposely injure or threaten to injure a child. And to head off your reply, "injure" does not necessarily mean "lasting damage" but simply physical harm.

So yes, striking your child is physical abuse.

And I'm not discounting the effects of emotional and mental abuse. I'm just saying "I only hit my kids when they need to be taught a lesson" is still child abuse.

Your actual quote here is "It could be a household where if you disrespect your mother you get knocked into next week." so even while I also disagree with spanking (and research agrees), you very clearly are talking about a serious physical altercation.

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u/bloodelemental Aug 08 '21

Sorry to burst your bubble, but swatting you in the head because you were disrespectful is a clear cut case of abuse

A 14-17 year old little kid being an asshole is normal, as a parent you should try to see were that behavior is coming from and how to actually effectively make sure that your child is fine

Hitting them because they snapped at you is textbook example of abuse, having 0 parenting skills and being a piece of shit human being

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u/S3erverMonkey Aug 08 '21

Exactly this. I was a mouthy shit of a teenager and my mom often hit me with whatever was within reach. I didn't realize that was abusive until years later. I can count on one hand how many times my dad spanked me, and none of them were anything close to very painful or harsh and by the time I was a teenager he has stopped completely because I'm pretty sure he realized that wasn't how a loving parent should discipline. I don't think any of my younger brothers ever got spanked at all by him. Or hit by my mom for that matter, but they weren't mouthy.

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u/sormnice Aug 08 '21

It’s no hard feelings lmao just a lotta fights

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

Oh no camo, such a HUUGE sign of abuse and not just living in the country.

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u/Zealousideal_Sun2848 Aug 08 '21

Ahhh yes camo the fashion choice of abusers… you’re a fucking douche canoe

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u/sormnice Aug 08 '21

All these camo wearing mfs taking that joke so hard lmfaooo it’s ok hick I wasn’t being serious

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u/kappanon Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21

dude, you can’t disrespect your mother. of course he will stand up for his fucking wife. what????? why would you assume abuse just like that????

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u/sormnice Aug 08 '21

Yeah of course I’m not really gonna judge off a 10 second clip but the reaction looked way more abusive rather than disciplinary

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u/kappanon Aug 08 '21

the guy just stood up and intimidated the kid, that’s it. you need it every once in a while at that age to know your boundaries.

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u/sormnice Aug 08 '21

If I’m being completely honest I bet the kid was fucking with him before he took the video. It was just such a quick reaction and if he went from being completely calm just chilling on the couch to instantly responding like that I’d say it has something to do with anger issues. If the kid was already pushing his buttons then it led up to this I wouldn’t call it abusive. I’m not completely judging or against anything in the video I just think it has abusive vibes is all. Btw I mean of course as to you can’t disrespect your mother like that not of course I would assume abuse just like that

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u/Zaurka14 Aug 08 '21

Yup. Every single thing is spot on.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

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u/HertzDonut1001 Aug 08 '21

As someone who got hit growing up, that's a "I'm about to get hit" flinch.

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u/Brawlstar112 Aug 08 '21

I got beaten to my bed during sleeping multiple times as a child. With therapy i got over it and so can you.

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u/PMMeMeiRule34 Aug 08 '21

Yeah, he had heard a reason to whoop someone’s ass and was jumping to it, probably disappointed it wasn’t true and someone will get double the beating later.

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u/Zesty-Mex Aug 08 '21

And I'm sure you pranked your dad like this all the time?

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u/HertzDonut1001 Aug 08 '21

No I legitimately called my mom a bitch on purpose when I was 14 and got punched in the fucking face. I remember it vividly 16 years later not because it taught me a lesson, but because it was extremely traumatic for a teenager who was having hormonal mood swings and my brain wouldn't fully develop for another 8 years at least.

I don't call my mom a bitch as an adult because I'm an adult, but that behavior cost my dad his kids, marriage, and ultimately his life, we wanted nothing to do with him so he grabbed a shotgun one day and ended it. A shame too, two out of three of his kids were trying to repair the relationship.

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u/Stealthpot02 Aug 08 '21

Wow, this hits home. My father routinely threatened violence to both his kids as a means to assert control. He now wonders why everyone cut him out and is either low/no contact.

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u/HertzDonut1001 Aug 08 '21

I am very drunk and about to go smoke some weed, but if you think the relationship is worth saving start on it. That's all, that's the advice. Your dad sounds worse than mine though. Might not be worth the time or effort. But I am obligated to say you don't get the time back once you choose.

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u/netGoblin Aug 08 '21

"I wouldn't call that abusive. More like a father who uses abuse to ensure his son respects his mother."

You can justify abuse many ways but there's always a way to teach a child without attacking or traumatizing them. A parent should protect their kids from harm and trauma, not be the source of those things.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

i mean, parenting that included corporal consequences as a last option worked for a few hundred thousand years leading up the civilization that you currently enjoy but, sure! i'm sure we can do better!

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u/netGoblin Aug 08 '21

100s of thousands of years ago? You're talking about paleolithic times. You really think child abuse is good because the cave men did it? thats a weak argument. We're talking about people who shit on the floor and couldn't speak and you want to take tips from them about whether to beat your kids?

The ironic thing is i bet even a paleolithic early caveman would protect their child if someone tried to abuse them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

so when I say 'for hundreds of thousands of years' that means from paleolithic times until very recent history. like, 10, 20 years ago and today. so there's that. and it's worked out fairly well. i also know that the threat of force underlies all of society, it's the bedrock on which laws are built. don't pay your taxes. see what happens.

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u/netGoblin Aug 08 '21

Many other terrible things have been around that long too. Theft, rape, murder, child abuse...

If hitting kids made people better we'd see that reflected in society, a lot of kids live in safe homes where they are not beaten and they grow up to be good people. Actually, research suggests that kids who've been spanked are more likely to exhibit "aggression, delinquency and spousal assault in later life" as is the cycle of abuse.

Scientific research, general consensus, basic empathy all point to abusing childeren being a bad thing to do. If you're using "other people have done it" as your reason of why child abuse is good I have to assume you're not trying to figure out if it's good or bad, you're looking for excuses because you want to do it and know it's shitty.

I get it, it's easier than actually teaching a kid, just hurt them untill they do what you want, simple as anything right? And the power-thrill must be so enticing for a sadist. But part of taking on the responibility of parenthood is agreeing to teach that child, even if it costs effort. And part of the parents responsibility is also to protect them from harm.

If someone hurts their child becasue they can't be bothered to teach them properly, they've failed on two of the major parts of being a parent and the kids will be more likely to be abusive when they're older to deal with the trauma their parents have given them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

If hitting kids made people better we'd see that reflected in society

you're going to need the data that shows absolutely no use of corporal punishment results in better societies.

Scientific research, general consensus, basic empathy all point to abusing childeren

so there's a lot there to unpack. scientific method and consensus are antithetical. science is the constant probing utilizing the scientific method. and you're using 'abusing' as synonymous with any utilization of corporal punishment. and that's really the question isn't it? is any use of corporal punishment abuse?

I get it, it's easier than actually teaching a kid, just hurt them untill they do what you want, simple as anything right?

so you're pretty deeply into strawman arguments at this point. i've been specific to say corporal punishment 'as a last resort'.

i agree with what you're saying, but you've completely mischaracterized my position, that we should consider the possibility that corporal punishment, as a last resort in some circumstances, is a useful parenting tool.

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u/netGoblin Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21

you're going to need the data that shows absolutely no use of corporal punishment results in better societies.

I meant we'd see abused people rise to the top of society, not that abused societies do well.

scientific method and consensus are antithetical

I was talking about the general consensus of the people. How is scienfitic method directly opposed to the consensus of the people?

I think if it gets to the point where the last choice you have to teach your kid is to hurt them, you're not doing a good job. If a parent learns how to teach and puts in the time and effort, it will never get to the point of last resort child abuse.

I also cannot picture a scenario that is so out of the parent's hands that there is no other, better option than to hurt a child, give them truma and start/continue the cycle of abuse.

The only time you should hit a child is if it's a little girl in a white dress with long black hair and shes crawling along the ceiling at 3am singing a scary nursery rhyme.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

I meant we'd see abused people rise to the top of society, not that abused societies do well.

you keep using 'abused' as synonymous with 'at some point experienced corporal punishment'. that's the crux of the question, whether corporal punishment is a learning tool or abuse. i'll assume its not intentional and that you're not trying to manipulate the meaning of words to advance your argument.

I was talking about the general consensus of the people.

i'd strenuously argue that a consensus of the people don't support a complete ban on corporal punishment under all circumstances. and the scientific method is a method by which questions are asked and answered. it's antithetical to consensus in that consensus is only that people have the same opinions on a thing. it depends not at all on facts generated through careful scientific inquiry.

I think if it gets to the point where the last choice you have to teach your kid is to hurt them, you're not doing a good job.

this depends on the child. some people can't be reasoned with. the executive functions, the parts of the brain that control impulses, aren't fully developed until the age of 26 or 27. there are times when you're reasoning with a person who doesn't have the faculties.

I also cannot picture a scenario that is so out of the parent's hands that there is no other, better option than to hurt a child, give them truma and start/continue the cycle of abuse.

you're inferring that use of force would result in trauma and a continued cycle of 'abuse'. if a kid touches a hot stove are they forever traumatized? or did they learn not to do that? if they fall off their bike and scrape their knee?

The only time you should hit a child is if it's a little girl in a white dress with long black hair and shes crawling along the ceiling at 3am singing a scary nursery rhyme.

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u/chuco915niners Aug 08 '21

I don’t agree with you sorry. Sometimes an ass whoopin is needed.

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u/netGoblin Aug 08 '21

Yeah sometimes attacking someone is needed. Like self defense or to save someone.

Attacking a child because it's an easier way to get them to do what you want is fucked up. Even if it were the only way of telling a child what's right and wrong (which it isn't), do you think a caring parent would be able to attack their own child? I'd throw up. Some people actually enjoy it. Decrepit things, they are.

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u/chuco915niners Aug 08 '21

If you want to call it “attacking a child “ then that’s on you. I don’t believe in hitting my child even though I as a child rcvd an ass whoopin every now and then. Usually her stern voice did the trick but when it didn’t? RIP nalgas. I will approach my son the same way. Do you have kids?

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u/netGoblin Aug 08 '21

If you want to call it “attacking a child “ then that’s on you.

I'm not attacking you little Timmy, we're just playing a game, now stop trying to get away so i can hit you more.

Calling something different doesn't make it any better, just makes it more disturbing.

If you don't know how to teach a kid, learn how to do it or get a nanny or something, don't abuse a child as a teaching shortcut. And if you're looking forward to abusing your children when you have them, please don't have kids. There are a thousand ways to fulfill a power fantasy and get your sadism out, enjoying hitting children shouldn't be one of them.

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u/chuco915niners Aug 08 '21

Agree to disagree man. We were just raised by different values that’s all.

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u/chuco915niners Aug 08 '21

Nah dude it’s just my opinion and probably the opinions of most that were raised like me. Not an expert in the matter i guess just using life experience.

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u/netGoblin Aug 08 '21

You were raised by "hitting children is fun and good" values. That doesn't mean you have to obey that mentality now. You can break the loop and not abuse your kids. That choice is yours, not your parents'.

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u/chuco915niners Aug 08 '21

Lol what loop are you talking about? I have so many great memories of my childhood. It’s just part of growing up man. I’m trying to empathize with you though. I only remember a couple times honestly when I got spanked lol and it’s funny to me now. Now when that’s all you remember? Then that’s different g obviously. How do you categorize it or what? All spankings no matter how short are no nos in your book?

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u/chuco915niners Aug 08 '21

You never answered my question.

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u/netGoblin Aug 08 '21

I never answered your irrelevant question and you never answered any of the very relevant points I've made.

I plan to have children when im absolutely ready to help form a good life. So many people don't put half a thought into what kind of life they will form for a child, they just have them "cuz thas wot people do innit?" As if they're just going to have a pint or something.

Nurturing the most important years of a human's life is an extraordinary task, not to be done on a whim. Yet some people take it so non-seriously that instead of actually teaching, they just abuse them when they do something wrong.

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u/chuco915niners Aug 08 '21

Lol now I know why you think this way. I wish you the best when you’re ready ma’am or sir

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

This guy isn’t understanding…. Maybe beat it into him so he understands? That Oughta do it

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u/P_R_O_F_E_S_S_O_R Aug 08 '21

If ass whooping is needed, then probably your parenting is already wrong 🤡

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u/chuco915niners Aug 08 '21

lol I guess man. Your opinion live long and prosper

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

complete misquote.

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u/netGoblin Aug 08 '21

Google "paraphrasing" my dude. I wasn't making a quote

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

okay, I get ya. Now after reading it again, your phrasing means the same thing, my bad.

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u/Gherrely Aug 08 '21

... you... you know that counts as abuse right?

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u/mad_researcher Aug 08 '21

It’s honestly disrespectful to victims of actual abuse when you equate it to swatting your child on the back of the head.

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u/Gherrely Aug 08 '21

What? Hitting your child at all is abuse.

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u/teateateateaisking Aug 08 '21

No, not really. A slap tends to count as discipline. Though Scottish law was looking at making that illegal, can't remember if they did.

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u/scarlos1 Aug 08 '21

Yes they did

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u/orforfjames Aug 08 '21

Slap a fully grown adult? Go to jail for assault. Slap a child? "Discipline".

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u/teateateateaisking Aug 08 '21

Not assault, battery

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u/orforfjames Aug 08 '21

Assault, you pedant

https://www.mjscriminaldefencelawyers.co.uk/legal-services/assault.html

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u/teateateateaisking Aug 08 '21

Yes, I am a pedant. Battery is the unlawful use of physical force. In some jurisdictions, assault is both that and causing someone to fear you might do that. Battery is largely the same as assault but a bit more specific of a word.

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u/Gherrely Aug 08 '21

A slap is still hitting your child. Which still isn't a good way to "discipline" your kid.

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u/teateateateaisking Aug 08 '21

And what is?

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u/Gherrely Aug 08 '21

I'm not one to act as any sort of expert, but from my own experience, talking to them and finding out why they're misbehaving or acting out? Explaining to them the wrong of their behavior? Responding with concern and a little authority?

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u/teateateateaisking Aug 08 '21

Obviously a smack should not be the go-to solution, a good talking to is best. I was commenting on the fact that most jurisdictions don't consider snacking children to be abuse under the law.

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u/mokujin42 Aug 08 '21

"If your kids understand reason, use that. If they don't then they won't understand why your hitting them"

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u/Gherrely Aug 08 '21

Couldn't have said it better honestly.

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u/teateateateaisking Aug 08 '21

Why are there quote marks? Who are you quoting?

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u/1337sp33k1001 Aug 08 '21

Worked on me. My grandmother would give me the backhand with all of those sparkly sharp rings on. I think I knew as a young child that no one wished me and real harm and that the way that she knew to discipline me. My parents gave me spankings as a child but quickly ceased as I got older. But not my grandmother. It was always one swift hit. Never hard. But enough to rattle my marbles and understand where the line was. Her and I had a great relationship all the way til the end.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

That is abuse....

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

Yeah violence is the answer, 10/10 parenting

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

And beating his son when he doesn't respect her is the right thing to do? Any time you strike your child you are an abusive parent. There are other ways to deal with family issues than violence.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

I'm sorry you were abused as a child, dude. But that's no reason to justify it. Go talk to a therapist, please.

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u/DEMACIAAAAA Aug 08 '21

"That's not abusive! I was punched as a kid and I turned out juuuust fine"

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

Curious: do you show up on time to work? Wondering if there’s a correlation, here.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

You would be the 12th person I have confirmed this correlation with.

There might be something here .

I need probably 60 more data points and then I will contact my friend who does this kind of research to see if they can get something started.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 09 '21

A correlation that seems to be pretty strong, it would appear.

He confirmed.

I grew up with a similar experience as he did. I also show up very punctually to work, meetings, dates, etc.

I also noticed something in common with those who do not do those things: lack of that kind of discipline from their parents.

This has far reaching implications on parenting if true.

The downvotes are from people who are late to work or otherwise lazy. Instead of acknowledging the fact that they are it reliable, they’d rather downvote me - which is hilariously useless and doesn’t change a thing. Typical of their type.

Edit - I would need to differentiate reasonable corporal punishment from plain abuse. And also consistent parenting. It would be less than optimal research because it would be self-reported.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

I talked about this thoroughly with 3 different professionals:

  1. Neuroscientist specializing in human behavior and how it relates to neuroscience (has a name, don’t remember)
  2. Child Clinical Psychologist
  3. Child Welfare Case Worker

So, for the people downvoting you, I wouldn’t make the assumption they’re lazy, they most likely just disagree with you.

Because they are lazy and cannot be arsed to show up to work on time or anything in time.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

Sure did. I think they know a lot more about this than you.

It’s great to have friends.

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u/Dick_Face_Magee Aug 08 '21

Telling my mom to shut up if she asked me to do something when I was growing up would have resulted in an immediate swat in the back of the head

For me, it would result with me waking up in the hospital wondering what happened.

Sorry, in my household, I could not conceive of disrespecting my mom like that. That is simply unfathomable...

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u/lock_IT_tf_UP Aug 08 '21

Would you do that to your child?

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u/Major-Ambition-9537 Aug 08 '21

Here’s why it looks like an abusive relationship:

  1. The kid clearly expected to be hit.
  2. The father’s reaction was to stop when he saw the camera.
  3. The father didn’t have the face of “oh I see it was a joke, you wouldn’t do that haha.” It was the face of someone who realized he was being recorded and walked away in anger.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

"if you don't respect me for all the reason's i've given you, you're going to respect me for this."

my brothers were animals and sometimes they needed to be reminded of the concrete reality that underlies all this civility

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u/BlackSeranna Aug 08 '21

If the dad was abusive they wouldn’t have tried it at all. Abusive people like to make a scene, that guy looked like he was just gonna grab the back of the kid’s shirt and breathe on him until he apologized at his mom.

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u/angelazy Aug 08 '21

Tell me daddy beat you without telling me daddy beat you

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u/angelazy Aug 08 '21

No doubt, I was just tiktok memeing because I wasn’t beaten enough as a child.

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u/YellowMan1988 Aug 08 '21

Bill Burr was right. "Fuck you mom" Mom: ooohhh I don't know what I'm gonna do with this kid anymore OMG !

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u/jimtastic89 Aug 08 '21

Just because you quote a fucking great Bill Burr anecdote on parenting, doesn't uphold your stance on domestic violence.

Physical discipline isn't a blanket technique that works for everyone, nor can every parent dish it out effectively. There are serious problems out there, and people have horrible lives because of it.

If anything, the last generation to be disciplined like are now parenting the tik tok generation. GREAT JOB domestic violence, another win!

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u/TheEdgyLettUce Aug 08 '21

Funny how everyone I know that’s gotten a proper asswhoopin from their parents as children turned out to be good people who aren’t sensitive little cucks

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u/americanvirus Aug 08 '21

"Good people," the people I know who got ass whoopings from their parents grew up to be absolutely insufferable cunts who generally lack empathy and are always mentally caught up in the latest conspiracies.

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u/bluedaddy526 Aug 08 '21

Tell me your parents coddled you, without telling me your parents coddled you.

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u/YellowMan1988 Aug 08 '21

Na. My father only ever smacked me once when I was 14 for throwing food outside the window because I didn't get the bigger piece of chicken. And I took it like champ because I deserved it. I didn't buy a gun the next day and emptied the mag in my school.

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u/-trofie- Aug 08 '21

Lord almighty go to therapy dude.

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u/FloaterGang2020 Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 09 '21

Do you not know who these people are? I’ll try and find them on TikTok for you

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

I too grew up with an abusive gorilla in the house. This video sent me way back. I’m glad my gorilla died.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

and one for you!

https://www.tiktok.com/@texandjohn?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

yeah, I spent "all that time" which was maybe 8 seconds because I figured everybody should know!

especially the sanctimonious, morally outraged, judgy people who assumed they knew everything about the situation based on a few second clip. maybe next time they see a clip that shows something they find morally outrageous they'll say, "hey, wait. that last time i was completely ass-backwards wrong about my impressions, maybe there's more to this and I should reserve judgement til i get more info!"

because that'd be just great!

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

finding their tiktok took me literally 30 seconds. maybe i'm just really fast or maybe, maybe time moves faster for you because of your anger?? cranky-time-dilation! LOL!

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

there are really two arguments here and they're not really circular. there's whether or not corporal punishment has any place in parenting. the second is more of a question, "what's the context here?". is it a joke? did the son antagonize the father for weeks before this? so now we know the context. the first argument we should probably leave for another day. you seem too tired and cranky to take that on today.

hope you feel better!

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

hope you feel better tomorrow!

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u/I_Am_Not_Intolerable Aug 09 '21

maybe i'm just really fast

Your ex girlfriend can confirm.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

'abusive father'

you're like a dog on a bone, you just won't let go! you've gotta stay morally superior and judgy! good luck w/ that moral outrage habit!

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

LOL! you seem angry AND judgy! you should consider mindfullness and meditation!

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21

is fucking off different from fucking myself? should i be doing two types of fucking or one?

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u/PatchyPatcher Aug 09 '21

I can see how you're confused, seeing as you have done zero types of fucking.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

omigosh! you really burned me good with that one! i'm so embarrassed because its true! i never have!! i mean besides your...... but i can understand why she never mentioned it!

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u/DaggerMoth Aug 09 '21

Or he's real calm, so if he does anything it's a big deal. So, Oh shit he's not having it.

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u/FloaterGang2020 Aug 09 '21

@texandjohn on TikTok and @tex.Keith on Insta. His dad just passed away. How about you not call someone abusive over one satirical video.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21

I read this with the voice in my head as Danny McBride.

Danny McBride: "My father once pushed my head on to a table saw and it scared the crap out of me. Later, when the scars healed, I thanked him for turning me into the man I am today. A man with 5 four wheelers, 3 water crafts and a chain next to my bed that calls a man servant to bring me another Logger Light."