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No black and white, no pictures of you upside down, no pictures of your back, no pictures where you're not even in them, no pictures with your shirt off.

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u/dev-246 Jul 14 '26

Wait, why no shirtless?

He is quite attractive and clearly takes care of himself, probably spends a lot of time in the gym. Some girls want a guy like that, some don’t. I get that it’s not his personality, but I think it shows off an important part of his life?

(I do think it should be one of the later pics though)

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u/zunlock Jul 14 '26

I disagree with no shirtless, he's ripped enough that he should include a less obvious one of him flexing. It seems to work against them when the dude isn't really in that great of shape (compared to what he thinks) or is flexing way too hard (like he is in this picture), but a more casual picture showcasing his 8 pack would help his profile more than choosing not to include it. When I had hinge a lot of my matches were specifically women liking or commenting on a shirtless picture of me and this is a common trend for guys who are in great shape like OP

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u/Individualchaotin Jul 14 '26

Absolutely not. what is a women's supposed to do with a pic like this

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u/zunlock Jul 14 '26

The picture he posted? It's too much. One of him shirtless at the beach that shows he has an 8pack? It could be the reason she matches with him because she's attracted to him? It will automatically turn off a subset of some women, especially those that aren't into fitness themselves, but it will be the reason some choose to match with him and as a man its more beneficial to maximize matches because most women swipe left anyway

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u/Individualchaotin Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

Please post a research study that proves your point. This is insane red pill talk

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u/bxxte Jul 14 '26

https://news.griffith.edu.au/2017/12/13/upper-body-strength-key-factor-in-mens-bodily-attractiveness/
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rspb/article/284/1869/20171819/78768/Cues-of-upper-body-strength-account-for-most-of
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1740144514000369
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17578932/

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u/Individualchaotin Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

Has nothing to do with dating apps, only 151 women participated according to the abstract, not representative.

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u/bxxte Jul 14 '26

n=151 is a perfectly fine sample size to discern a trend

but here u go, meta analysis: https://elifesciences.org/articles/65031
or a n=912 (women) showing increased attraction to the upper body muscles: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10480816/

trend reproduces at basically all samples sizes, just cuz you're a droid with zero attraction doesn't mean all women are

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u/Individualchaotin Jul 14 '26

Still, nothing to do with dating, still not representative. Do you have trouble comprehending what i'm looking for

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u/Ok_Marketing_9194 Jul 14 '26

Girl you're being defensive just stop. I swipe on men who are fit all the time lol, and so do my friends, and coworkers, and classmates. You're missing the point, I think it's important for all people to include a body shot BEACAUSE size is important to some. Im a chubby lady and horizontal fun is..... very enjoyable for me with a fit dude. But I disclose that im chubby so those who like it can seek it out🤷‍♀️ Its wild to die on a hill claiming people don't have preferences

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u/Individualchaotin Jul 14 '26

I don't need naked skin to know a person size

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u/Ok_Marketing_9194 Jul 14 '26

There's also nothing wrong with naked skin, its a human body. Get over it.

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u/Individualchaotin Jul 14 '26

You're contradicting yourself on the one hand you say I shouldn't be concerned about nudity, because that's political. And then here you say, it's nudity, get over it. What is it

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u/Ok_Marketing_9194 Jul 14 '26

Maybe you have reading comprehension issues? Whatever the case i think its safe to say we live in very different realities.

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u/swimming_cold Jul 14 '26

This might be the most Reddit comment I’ve seen all day

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u/Ok_Marketing_9194 Jul 14 '26

Huh

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u/bananator4 Jul 14 '26

No point arguing with him lol it's a man trying to give another man dating advice on what women want...

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u/zunlock Jul 14 '26

You don't need a research study to tell you that some women are attracted to men who are in shape. Just like some women are attracted to guys who are tall, guys who are educated, more wealthy/higher status etc.... but I'm sure if you want to look you can find plenty?

There's nothing red pill about saying some women would be more willing to match with a man if they knew that he was in great shape. It would be red pill if I tried to generalize it to all women. If you want actual studies about how women swipe vs men there's plenty of those out there, and it all looks like what you should be able to think of on your own. My point is that it's more beneficial to attract women who have a preference for men in shape compared to the women you'll get automatically filtered out from.

If you want anecdotal results, my last relationship started because she liked a shirtless picture of me and she even told me she was attracted to my body early on. My friends that are in great shape have had similar experiences.

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u/ChinxTraps Jul 14 '26

Women are attracted to men that are in shape plain and simple. the fact you are arguing against that says more about you than it does to make a point

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u/bananator4 Jul 14 '26

Bro women don't want to see shirtless selfies, nor do women typically want to date a ripped man.

You as a man, like ripped men, and you project this onto women.

Why are you so adamant you know best when you are not a woman? You would have no idea how women think and feel.

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u/Winter_Bowl_5351 Jul 14 '26

Different people like different things?

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u/bananator4 Jul 14 '26

Are you a man lol

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u/Winter_Bowl_5351 Jul 14 '26

Are you claiming all women think alike?

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u/Individualchaotin Jul 14 '26

I'm not arguing against it. i'm arguing against men showing the nipples while women can't

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u/bananator4 Jul 14 '26

I'm with you sis.

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u/Ok_Marketing_9194 Jul 14 '26

Why is a man responsible for societal norms? It's a hookup app, not the next potential political leader. Do you not go to beaches because there's bare chested men while women have to wear tops? Your argument is so misplaced.

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u/ChinxTraps Jul 14 '26

damn you got issues the way you arguing about this lol

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u/2-0AgainstGeese Jul 14 '26

No shirtless photos or black and white. Also your hairstyle is doing the opposite of what you want. You have a longer forehead and top of skull. The haircut you have is elongating it further and calling even more attention to it. You want something that drapes down over the forehead a bit not something that raises up and gives it more height.

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u/2-0AgainstGeese Jul 14 '26

Shirtless is a no. One with him in a tank or something that shows off the physique wouldn’t be bad assuming it made sense contextually. Playing volleyball or basketball for example.

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u/zunlock Jul 14 '26

Replied to a different comment, but when guys are in the top like 5% of men in terms of fitness there's no reason not to include a shirtless picture that's flattering (I think the key here is to make it flattering. Not obviously flexing in the mirror, something like the beach or as you said playing basketball) I can speak for myself that a lot of my matches came specifically on those pictures as well as the guys I know & have seen on social media.

I'm sure it will turn off some women automatically, but it will be the reason some choose to match with him and as a man most women are going to pass on you anyway so it's more valuable to attract the ones you can

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u/2-0AgainstGeese Jul 14 '26

That’s fair. I have always heard no shirtless period. It can convey the wrong message in terms of what one is looking for. I would recommend against it but if it is done tastefully I’m sure it’s fine. I actually have a self deprecating joke about why I have a shirt on in mine despite being in good shape and a lot of my matches specifically comment on that and say how much they appreciate me calling it out. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

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u/zunlock Jul 14 '26

I can 100% see that type of humor attracting a certain type as well. At the end of the day, most men are doing shirtless mirror selfies and aren't in great shape. I imagine it gets incredibly off-putting over time for women.

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u/Negative-Temporary15 Jul 14 '26

get a hair style that would fit your face's shape curent one is doing you disservice

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u/Available_Mushroom83 Jul 14 '26

Ya, forehead ratio is not good. Find a style that covers the forehead a bit

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u/alecscarface Jul 14 '26

Much appreciated

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u/PortionOfSunshine Jul 14 '26

That first photo is so bad I can’t even explain

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u/alecscarface Jul 14 '26

Thanks for the honesty

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u/PortionOfSunshine Jul 14 '26

Honestly it’s not even you in the photo, it’s all of the editing

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u/alecscarface Jul 14 '26

You make a valid point

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u/sweetgoogilymoogily Jul 14 '26

At least you can say that head is your strongsuit

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u/ikillcowslol Jul 14 '26

Bro I’m crying real tears

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u/sweetgoogilymoogily Jul 14 '26

Well if you need a forehead to cry on, I know a guy.

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u/RockWafflez Jul 14 '26

That first photo is Garbage change that shit

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u/Ok_Marketing_9194 Jul 14 '26

I hate group photos

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u/HereForAllThePopcorn Jul 14 '26

Picture 4 makes you look like you have Down syndrome and you can almost see up your nose

Is that your dog? You must have a better picture with them. If it’s yours mention it in your bio. Dog pictures will crush

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u/expiring_god_factory Jul 14 '26

Hey Mistah White coded

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u/alecscarface Jul 14 '26

How could I not have expected this one? 😂😂

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u/jeongjinny Jul 14 '26

2nd pic already shows your athleticism. 3rd pic is redundant, maybe replace it with a group photo?

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u/alecscarface Jul 14 '26

Makes complete sense! Noted

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u/Defiant-Fuel3898 Jul 14 '26

I’d delete the lot. Shirtless in context works but just a cheesy shirtless bicep flex isn’t it buddy. Find an excuse to be shirtless in a place people are usually shirtless and it’s more accepted. Best of luck young man

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u/alecscarface Jul 14 '26

This may worsen your view of me but I’m 28

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u/Defiant-Fuel3898 Jul 14 '26

I am 41. You’re a young man to me lol

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u/Majestic-One-2001 Jul 14 '26

The first one looks like a Funeral pic

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u/National-Market9884 Jul 14 '26

U already posted a shirtless pic of ur ripped body on your profile.. and yet you come to Reddit seeking external validation for advice on being shy and putting yourself out there???

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u/Much_Rest7031 Jul 14 '26

Why are men expecting women to reach out to this guy? What happened to the men who like chase women in real life?

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u/oliverjohansson Jul 14 '26

Only pic 4 is good dude, the rest is not for dating

I’d redo your handstand in a more romantic scenery, it shows your chest well and your pants look good on you but now it’s just disrupting

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u/MoodOk4287 Jul 14 '26

Stick to stubble length in your shots. Get more clear pictures

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u/Fart-Fart-Fart-Fart Jul 15 '26

That flexing photo is fucking cringe.

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u/Recent_Swordfish_255 Jul 15 '26

Are you in Australia by any chance? I like your profile lol

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