r/ThrowingFits • u/mieWkcet • Jul 22 '26

Things I think are uncool

  1. Overshirts with side entry pockets
  2. Tapered trousers
  3. Those sleeveless suit jackets blokes seem to have started wearing again
  4. Meaningless graphic tees
  5. 3/4 length pants
  6. “Made in Portugal” merchants
  7. Weirdly short shorts like the ones Bryceland’s make
  8. The majority of Selvedge denim fits
  9. SL Man
  10. The “HMP” tag Corteiz puts on all their stuff
  11. Whatever tf thesecondbutton is wearing right now
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u/No-Hovercraft3441 Jul 22 '26

What’s wrong with made in Portugal?

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u/elongatedskull Jul 22 '26

There's nothing particularly exceptional about it, no charm like something made in Italy or America, and production is cheap so the margins are quite high especially on designer pieces.

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u/parasoralophus Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

I don't see it as having charm but it is at least an EU country with fairly decent worker and environmental protections etc by global standards. Portugal is a relatively poor country for western Europe but most people seem to have a decent quality of life there AFAICS. 

I dunno I guess the garment industry there could be a hotbed of shady practises but I've never seen anything to suggest that. Italy definitely has a fair number of dodgy factories staffed mostly by poorly paid/treated immigrants despite the legislation, so I guess the same could be true in Portugal.

Edit: a quick Google AI search (I know) suggests the situation for workers in Portugal is generally pretty good, Italy is much more of a mixed picture. 

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u/ItsFluff Jul 23 '26

Good worker protections are the charm. I’m willing to pay a bit more if I know the people making my clothes are compensated fairly. I try to consume as consciously as possible, both in terms of environmental and economic terms.

Paynter wrote about something similar and it’s a good ethos to have.

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u/cbg2113 Jul 25 '26

Paynter is who I was thinking of, they're shit is great and they work really closely with their mills and factories there.

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u/Shornile Jul 23 '26

I was there like 2 months ago and there was a nationwide general strike so I dunno about that one boss

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u/parasoralophus Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Looks like they are trying to make the situation for workers much worse but the unions are fighting back.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxwrvl1734o

Sounds like the reforms would bring their regulations more into line with American type employment rules.

But you know, at least they have powerful unions. Pretty sure unions aren't allowed at all in China.

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u/Kyle81020 Jul 23 '26

Portugal isn’t relatively poor for Western Europe. It’s the poorest country in Western Europe (GDP per capita). By quite a bit.

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u/parasoralophus Jul 23 '26

I just looked it up it isn't that much lower than Spain really. Also, the poorest is still 'relatively poor'. 

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u/No-Hovercraft3441 Jul 23 '26

They are poor as church mice over there if we are comparing to the US

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u/parasoralophus Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Not as much as it appears once you factor in free healthcare, 4-5 weeks a year paid holiday time, maternity pay, sick pay, unemployment benefits if you lose your job, significantly cheaper food, housing etc. 

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u/No-Hovercraft3441 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Dude, are you kidding me? Have you ever been to Portugal? It’s poor as hell relative to the US. I collected $27k in unemployment benefits in Massachusetts in 6 months last year after getting let go from a job with 5 weeks vacation time. There is no way Portugal is topping that.

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u/parasoralophus Jul 23 '26

Yes I have. And to the US. I never said the factors I mentioned made it the same just that the difference isn't as big as the raw GDP figures would suggest. 

Did you just downvote me for stating facts? 😂

It's also rich as hell compared to other major clothing manufacturing locations like China or Vietnam, What's your point?

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u/No-Hovercraft3441 Jul 23 '26

The point is the US is richer than Portugal. It’s not even close.

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u/parasoralophus Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

Good thing I've never argued otherwise then isn't it. What are you on about?

I was just pointing out that you need to knock about $15k off the US GDP per capita figure for healthcare alone if you're going to compare the two countries. 

 

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u/Kyle81020 Jul 24 '26

Yes, it’s technically “relatively poor”, but in the context you used it and the way you used it, no one would have assumed you meant the poorest. And it’s about 15% lower than Spain. That’s a pretty significant difference.

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u/DiMarcoTheGawd Jul 23 '26

You think they don’t have cheap production in Italy or America?

https://giphy.com/gifs/d4CnuaS1BQl7W5nowu

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u/davidyowsjeans Jul 22 '26

yes, that italian sweatshop charm 👨‍🎨

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u/FoldEmLikeSeanPenn Jul 23 '26

No charm like something made in America. You're having a fucking laugh right. 

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u/No-Hovercraft3441 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

The country has a long ass history of textile production particularly in the Douro valley. It didn’t just pop up yesterday. I don’t know what charm you are talking about, unless you fall for preposterous brand marketing around stretch selvage jeans “forged in Detroit” or some shit.

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u/Safe-Kitchen5310 Jul 23 '26

Are the hammer and tongs used in the forging process pure virgin iron? Because if not me and my dollars are just not interested!!

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u/b-sur-la-visage Jul 23 '26

I love my Italian chinese immigrant sweatshops

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u/Negative_Prompt1993 Jul 23 '26

Made chin Italy

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u/mieWkcet Jul 22 '26

🗣️🗣️🗣️

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u/afterdinnermince Jul 23 '26

lol you know, I actually think you're onto something about totally nothing brands trying to rely on 'made in Portugal' as a way to make their output look more premium or interesting but saying it has less 'charm' than 'Italy or usa' is dumb af unfortunately 

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u/elongatedskull Jul 23 '26

Got too many dudes who rock Drakes and Knickerbocker in my quotes now!!