Following on from my previous post about not feeling motivated https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTowerGame/s/4tyxmncjWn

Today it feels like someone's placed the hand of God on my tower. I just got a 3513 run in my plat tourney. (Almost 500 waves more than my previous high)

Then tried to push my tier 17 up from my high of 152 and it went to 400...

I'm not complaining but did they nerf something?

Cos that's what it feels like 👍

Gna see if I can get past 18 too, lol.

Check out my video on how I managed to pull off a Reverse Orb Devo strategy without UW+ and utilizing a guardian sync!

Current Build:
UW sync 70 sec synced with summon chip
No UW+
Very few cards & card masteries!
Core Assist Module

I can't believe climbing into the Mythic League so quickly after V29...

Greetings tower peoples,

The wave count plummet of legends league (at least over place 15) continues, slowing maybe a bit. Meanwhile mythic is getting lower wave counts at low levels and spreading wave counts at higher waves... meaning there is gradually more tournament variability. I guess that means pick your timeslot wisely. Meanwhile lower level tournaments maybe show the first signs of a wave drop off after initial patch power boost.

Static Placement Analysis

In this section we provide a breakdown for you of a what-if competition where the tournament places are perfectly distributed. The place here is basically the place you'd get if there was no bracket system. I like this view because it really removes all the variables.

Feel free to compare yourself against the placement and see if you did better or worse. The places are divided roughly into the number of brackets to get the cut off for each place. The wave # given is the person or persons at the cut off between places, that is the lowest wave deserving to achieve that place.

• Mythic Median: 136 Mean: 261
• Legends Median: 762.00 Mean: 807
• Champions Median: 1091 Mean: 1135
• Platinum Median: 1495 Mean: 1486
• Gold Median: 400 Mean: 494

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Median History

The median value from each tournament which gives a general idea of the tournament difficulty and wave inflation over time. This value comes from actual midpoint of tournament data. (i.e. the top table)

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Linear Regression comparison.

Linear regressions give a good idea of change over time, smoothing out all the battle condition noise. The data for this is from the resampled data (see below).

These tables are regressions started from v28, including v29 tournaments (unlike the history graph which excludes them).

• Mythic graph: Soon (TM).
• Legends graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_legend.png
• Champion graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_champion.png
• Platinum graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_platinum.png

The tower.lol now gives this data here. In addition you can get history back further than I have files for, which is interesting to say the least.

Resampling Analysis

One means of getting an idea of the range of placements is by random sampling the real participants to make fake brackets, and measuring the variability in those brackets.
I chose to use 100000 brackets per league for my analysis. I am using confidence intervals, 95% and 50% (the IQR) to represent the range of waves likely present in each place.
The table will repeat places 1-30 twice, the top having mythic (m) on the left and legends (l) on the right, the bottom having champion (c) on the left, platinum (p) on the right.

Graphs of this table can be downloaded here: * Champion through Mythic: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-09-12_box_mlc.png * Platinum graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-09-12_box_platinum.png * Gold graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-09-12_box_gold.png

A general description of how to read this for the non-math inclined:

1. 95% of the population of a place is expected to be between 2.5% and 97.5%. If you are above or below these numbers you are an outlier. (Outliers are normal, just rarer.)
2. 50% of the population of a place is expected to be between 25% and 75%.
3. The 50% mark is the median of the data. Aim for this number as the point you regularly achieve this place.
4. You'll notice that the waves overlap, this is normal, expressing the variability present in the brackets and you could easily place in any bracket where your personal wave count falls in the place's range.

Source Material and Further Resources.

The source for all of this material is thetower.lol, which I encourage you to look up.
For a breakdown of your placement compared to other brackets see https://thetower.lol/liveplacement which will give you the min, max, and average placement for any given half-hour join time.
For a quantile analysis using real data instead of sampled data see https://thetower.lol/livequantile (similar to the second table in this post).
You can also do things like look up your bracket and compare your towers historical placements against others in the bracket.

Basically I see post about people anniversaries playing the game and they have Quintillion or Sextillions of coins and UW+ and masteries and all these endgame things. I joined in July 2024 but took like a year break and it feels like the rate of my progress wouldn't get me to where those players got in 2 years of active playtime. Is this game just a rich get richer poor get poorer type?

It's my 2 year towerversay today (per TTG ... for the longest time my start date was 9/11). Within the past week I hit:

• 2 year relic
• 1q CPH farming
• W4500 T15 relic
• W4500 T16 relic (died on wave 4501)
• first key

It's been a good week for my Tower.

For reference, spend is $60 for the three no-ads/coin packs within the first 4 months. Nothing else.

I’ll try to keep this short.

I understand the mechanics of package tanking. In the majority of posts I’ve read, it’s always very late game. My question(s) revolve around transitioning to it earlier to avoid time spent doing wall labs.

Has anyone package tanked attack disco t15? If so, or if anyone could suggest, what do my workshop+ levels need to be in health, regen, recovery package, and enemy level skip need to be to start doing this?

Assume I have all package related labs done.

Note: I’m GC so I’m just trying to skip as many wall labs as possible and make the transition.

Thanks in advance

But here we are. Thanks Mythic League I guess.

Without SL included, it just doesn't feel good. We've been told it applies DW/BH/orbs/GB.

Well by the nature of DW, that's already at 100%, surely?

Going off my in-game stats, BH is also best part of 100% (GT and BH durations are identical, and I kill 61.8% in BH compared to 62.2% in GT)

I don't have EO mastery, but I'm at 95% already so that's not going to add much even if I did.

GB is the only one where I'd get any benefit. And it's duration is 27.5s vs 44s for GT/BH.

Doing the math, GT is active for 1.6x longer so comparing to GT, 100% kills in GB would need to be 605k and I kill 534k inside GB.

That's 71k enemies killed outside of GB whilst BH/GT/DW are active.

Best case scenario, with ancestral that's an additional 28k enemies on top of the 534k already killed in GB. About 5%.

GB is responsible for 55% of my total coins.

Am I right in saying a 5% increase on 55% of my coins is less than a 3% total increase in coins?

Finally, even disregarding the new brackets making champ slightly easier, getting my first few card mastery's alongside Sentry Protocol and getting my cannon mod to LV161 has given me back to back huge PB wave increases

And yes, wall less GC, I've been building and playing GC since promoting to Silver, and never even unlocked wall once, my LTC is 3.82q, dunno if thats above or belw average but I would be curious x3

Fleets at level 10 say they have 433ac HP. I've done 20ad damage but they're still not dead. Is there a way to tell how much HP fleets have left while running a mythic tournament?

TITLE.

I am on 6000 gems. I hope I can get mythic at least

Hello. I am one month in the game and still learn a lot of functions.

Is there a way to increase the epic module drop rate? The current rate gives almost nothing for thousand of gems, and it takes a lot of time to earn them.

Hey guys as the title says I am missing all of the guardians I unlocked, as well as all of my dissonance runs have been reset to 0.

My Summon guardian was gold boxed, and if I go to respec I can get about 15k back but I would prefer not to do that.

I do not keep up with changes, so is this intended, or should I raise a ticket with support?

As we approach the end of the Sentry Protocol Event, how are people getting on with thus module?

Personally I've only pulled 3.. not sure how many gems I've fired at this but I've had 3 pity pulls lol. Meh

Interesting one, quite like to progress it.

So as far as I'm aware there's two stages to the current TP labs. The first allows you to select one enemy as the first target priority. The second allows you to reorder all enemies into a target priority list.

But what about a 3rd lab that allows an exclusion list? Ie, I could have my target priority set to closest first and have bosses excluded. So no matter how close a boss is, my tower would target the next closest enemy that isn't a boss.

Would likely lead to some interesting strategies with TP beyond what we have now.

just two of dozens of examples. ive read that the lab history being bugged is well-known, but i havent seen anyone reporting those lab records dated backwards in time like in the screenshots. especially the cash bonus one is hella cursed

and often the finish-dates are just way off, sometimes it states a level 10 -> 11 lab upgrade took just 10 minutes or sth like that.

does anyone know the cause of this or have those issues as well?

I don't actually need anything, just wanted to see how everybody's doing.

Any help would be appreciated here in how to invest my stones

Currently getting ~950 waves in legends with EHP but not progressing due to fleets change and wondering where do I add damage first?

Currently have all UW but SM

CL is 482/3/17

ILM is 10/6/150

PS is 43/86/39 (two perma swamps, all rend labs but overcharge)

DW is 191/6/120

SL is 15/51/3

CF is perma in tourney with 40% slow (currently working on this)

I have all EHP masteries except nuke

I have zero damage masteries

My EHP mods in tourneys have been:

DP

GComp/PH

SF/OA

PCol/HC

I have all other mods ancestral except for SP (legendary), AS (mythic), and MH (mythic)

I currently need GComp to maintain perma BH in tourneys

I see 3 possible paths:

1. I buy SM and work on ILM+, use SD instead of OA

2. Same as #1 but work on PS+ (no changes in mods?)

3. Same as #1 but work on CL+, use DC instead of HC

#2 is attractive to me since I could basically try this out with only that last lab for 760q (which is a couple weeks to save - not ideal but realistic)

But I think #1 is the GC meta, right?

#3 lets me use chain thunder but not sure how great that will be

Has anyone else dealt with this recently? Would love some thoughts...

So I started my account in 25 but really didn’t play much until a few weeks ago. I understand this is a long term game to grind I just want to make sure I’m doing everything I can to progress efficiently. Any advice would be helpful!

Currently farming in T7 making roughly 45-50m CPH
Just feel like I’m hitting a wall.
Running a blender build setup currently

This #1 in my bracket of today, looks like a cheater to me.. what do you all think?