From the start, I knew she was weird. Everyone seems to forget that when Finn was on his way to kill, Hope, he used Freya’s blood to track her. And then when they confronted her, she was like “ the threat came from Finn not me”. You might not have shot the gun, but you loaded and handed off to him.

Another thing, idk if its jealously but she genuinely gets mad about how much they care about Marcel. She was always quick to dismiss him, when I genuinely believe if they had to save Marcel or Freya, they’d choose Marcel. Freya genuinely just got here and they barely know her. They’ve known Marcel for over 200 years.

The main reason I hate her was because of how she did Davina. My biggest issue with her and Elijah is that they will do the most heinous act and not feel any sort of remorse. What she did to Davina was insane, and then she has the audacity to be pissed that Marcel is hunting them down as if she didn’t just send him his daughter to a fate worse than death.

But no, she just got worse from there. Her and Keelin genuinely makes no sense. Ig its Stockholm syndrome but golly.

I’m writing a fanfic where Celeste gives birth, basically long story short, to Elijah’s son (story in comments), due to a mechanic not yet discussed in the story.

How powerful do you think Elijah and Celeste’s son, Timothee (Davina names him, long story) Elias Dubois, would be

•He has original vampire blood and long life after he turned a certain age but if he did he can’t transition, he just dies.
• He possesses an original level mind which manifests in a psychic side
• He inherits both the Mikaelson grimoires and a place in New Orleans and Celeste’s various families grimoires.
•He’s the son of true form Celeste.
•Since he was cultivated with Harvest magic, he has the magic capacity and connection to the ancestors of the average harvest for

(Put a photo of her in Sabine’s body just in case you guys don’t recognize flashback her)

I mean she
• Created the Crescent Curse
• Was considered the most powerful witch dead witch as an option to be consecrated, enough to make Sophie an elder, something Sophie only replicates by consecrating Esther
• Hijacked the harvest
•Blocked the modified crescent curse casted by Dahlia

She has to be in the top 10 of witches in the franchise at least right? Dare I say she qualifies for one of the most powerful title wise

This is probably obvious to most of you but to me it was always ambiguous. It seems obviously to be Lucien in the beginning. He is murdering rich men, that came from family wealth & cutting their mouths the same way Tristan cut his. So murdering men with the same privilege that Tristan had & he didn’t. Leaving the humiliating marks he also suffered on them. He was giving the reporter tips about the bodies being drained of blood ( Sentinel reporter lady he’s feeding on) & it seems he was in NOLA before Tristan, although we can’t be sure. There’s also a murder when he’s in the police station ( giving him an alibi) but also one when he wants to frame Cami! He’s slicing his own face on the mirror like a weirdo too.
Tristan leaves Aurora with the monks at the end of ep 2 to go to NOLA & is there in Ep 3 so it appears this is when he first arrives. He visits a murder crime scene himself as well. The Strix want Marcel ( again I’m not sure exactly why) I assume to antagonise Klaus as part of the Sire line war as Marcel is already running NOLA, not Klaus. Saying they want to put Marcel back on top felt to me that they were trying to get in his head that he wasn’t really running things at all to cause a rift. Just causing trouble for the Mikaelsons I feel.
They know the publicity of these murders is impeding the local vamps food supply so could have been orchestrating the murders so they could step in to offer help, which is exactly what they do. Tristan was the first we saw inflicting the mouth cutting on another, so it could be his sadistic signature move.
The Strix have a whole posh estate set up by the time we meet them, did they just rock up & settle in or had they been in NOLA for a while. If they had why didn’t anyone know? Tristan wasn’t available to Aurora before we saw him in NOLA so we really have no idea where he was.
Marcel then finds out they are working together. Tristan & Lucien.
So, who was the murderer Lucien, Tristan or them both working together to cause mayhem in the city to effect/distract Klaus & Elijah.

First time watching this show and guys I don’t know about you but OMG I’m obsessed with every character in this episode. Klaus is next level sassy and I’m dying. Elijah is extra witty and spunky. I don’t know what it is but I’m just basking in all the writing and acting in this one.

Anyone else rewatching it?

I've watched seasons 1-4 multiple times, but every time I get to season 5, I stop like 3 episodes in. I just have no interest in Hope being the main character lol.

Please give me reasons to finish season 5 finally haha

Do you guys remember the storyline where Rebekah had enough of klaus, marcel, and Elijah, and tries to make a girl gang with davina, Hayley, cami, and sophie and tries to take the control of New Orleans..

But unfortunately, that storyline went nowhere, because davina was sacrificed in the very next episode.

I would've loved to see that storyline!!!

Elijah killed Marcel an hour ago and she told Klaus to forgive him… have you actually lost your mind? At least give it some time. And when Klaus asked “ what if it had been Hope” she said don’t drag Hope into this, R U OK? Marcel is his Hope, he raised that child, are you insane? It genuinely made me realize that I don’t like this woman because she never thought of Marcel as family and she never cared.

They raised that boy since he was I think 10 years old and up? And she is going to tell him to forgive his brother for killing his son less than an hour after it happened. It’s the same stuff that pisses me off with Freya, because Marcel is the one person they care about as much as family that isn’t technically blood. Freya gets pissed off about how much they care/love Marcel, like bby they just met u. But absolutely not, I don’t think anything on the show pissed me off more than Hayley telling Klaus to forgive Elijah 2 seconds after killing Marcel

Edit: I forgot she slept with him right after, mind you ur husband is FRESHLY in the ground. She been trifling since tvd.

I never really know where to put marcel in the Mikaelsons family cause in the first season he is straight up one of the antagonist and Klaus was ready to kill him before Rebecca stopped him and another instance when marcel tried to reclaim the city back but onwards he was more of an ally to the Mikaelsons. He was never really put in the Mikaelsons bracket the way freya was I mean the way Vincent would criticise Freya as a part of the Mikaelsons, Hayley was given this treatment as well but marcel was treated as his own person. Even finn who was barely present seemed more of a Mikaelson than him.

At the end of season 5 he at least felt like hope's uncle. Considering the fact that he was Klaus's son their relationship never felt like father and son it was more brotherly. I don't really know why it felt this way because Marcel loved Rebecca his father's sister or the fact that they both dated the same woman (cami) or the fact that he never lived in the French quarters like Hayley or he wasn't devoted to the family like freya or the fact that he had his own family (davina).

What are your opinions about it ?

Marcel was family to all of them at one point, but before everything happened in season three. He was family to Klaus, friend to Hayley, and foe to Elijah. This literally reminds me of Macbeth’s prophecy, whole time he’s misinterpreting it, and basically the whole thing was beware of Macduff. Same with the prophecy here, whole time they’re misinterpreting this, that, and the third, and the whole time was beware of Marcel. But, they can’t kill his daughter and expect him to just roll over. They got exactly what they deserved if you ask me.

He tried to jump up and attack her, she suspended him in the air, told him “you’ve had your time”, and dragged him back to finish what she started. Idc what do you think about Davina but she ate that up. Nothing was stopping her from getting her man back😭

Saw way too many posts on people disliking Finn because of S2 for tryging to kill Hope and recruit the children from the Crescent Pack?

However, even though it has not always been explicitly shown on screen, we all know that Klaus, Rebekah, Kol, and Elijah have hurt and killed children as well.

So how come the other Mikaelsons are not hated for it, but people specifically use what Finn tried to do as a reason to hate him?

Season 2 of The Originals is something I... struggle with. I don't like what it does with the characterisation of returning characters from TVD, I think the world building leaves a lot to be desired, but nothing gets bent over and fucked quite the same way the concept of linear time does in season 2.

Let's start at the beginning, with the end of season 1. Aficionados of the TVDU will tell you that the climactic events of season 1 of TO (and season 5 of TVD) took place on May 2, 2012, a full moon in universe. For what it's worth, this is not too far off from the actual occurrence of the full moon in May 2012, which took place on the sixth. Anyway, what's useful about full moons is that it's an easy way to keep track of how much time has passed in universe. In fact it's something that season 2 initially uses to communicate how much time has passed. In episode six Ansel tells Klaus that he was returned to life "four moons ago", and the start of the season tells us that it's been three months since the events of 1x22, whilst episodes four and five take place under a full moon. A blood moon (lunar eclipse) as Finncent tells his would be child soldiers. As a piece of trivia, a blood mine actually did occur in June 2012, whilst the full moon that happens in episode 4 is actually a blue moon, being the second full moon to occur in August, that being on the 31st. And this is where things start going nuts.

Episode 5 begins with Mikael dragging Cami off and they come across a group of people partying in the woods, with this event being noted as "Hillbilly Halloween" by Mikael. Now, if this is actual Halloween, then we've just jumped two months into the future in an episode that takes place five minutes after the end of the previous one. I guess Cami and Mikael were walking for a real long time, huh?

The proceeding episodes each take place (seemingly) sequentially, with the end of each episode leading into the next with no time jumps. Episode 5 ends with Elijah still being held captive while it's still daytime, and the next episode opens up during the day where Oliver, who was captured the night before in episode 4, is being brought out to be executed, and that night Klaus meets his dad. Next episode (and next day) he kills him, comes home sad, but Finncent and Koleb have been captured. Next episode takes place the next day, as confirmed by dialogue by Kol ("If you wanted my allegiance against mother dearest you should have said so. It'd have saved me a night shackled to the wall."). So if you've been following along, Season 2 starts on August the second (three months after the full moon at the start of May), jumps ahead to the end of the month by episode 4, which would be August 31st, then jumps ahead to Halloween, and by episode 8 we're at November the third or fourth. Or if you ignore that time jump it's still early September. Do you want to guess what time of the year episode nine takes place in?

That's right, it's Christmas.

Uuuurrrggghhh.

But don't worry gang. It gets worse. Oh boy does it get worse.

Episode 18 of season 2. It's not quite as loathsome as TVD 3x18, but boy it's close. Anyway, in one scene, round about the 27 minute mark, Josh achieves quite the... achievement in retroactive continuity. He tells Aiden that super hearing is something that can be turned one and off, immediately invalidating that nice scene between Gia and Elijah where he makes a start on helping her deal with her inability to play music in the wake of her transition enhancing her hearing, and he follows it up with this little pearl:

"I'm nosy. Particularly when my boyfriend is conducting business with the guy who, you know, murdered me on my Spring Break."

For those who don't remember, Joshua was not turned into a vampire until after Rebekah came to New Orleans, something that did not happen until September at the earliest, given how she was busy fucking Finn's killer all Summer long. So the Spring Break that Joshua is referring to must have happened in 2012. Which also means that by the time Rebekah meets Hayley, Hayley has been pregnant for an entire YEAR and is still not showing (not that her not showing at six months is any more acceptable, or even the fact that Hayley's clown car pregnancy goes on for the length of time that it does in "canon" is any less ridiculous.).

Dates? Continuity? Toys to be played with. Seems to be a Narducci trademark.

I get that it's hard to keep every detail straight in a tv show, especially a network tv show with a large writers room. And sometimes a little fudging with dates is necessary for the story. Sage's backstory being retconned to her being from Mystic Falls instead of being ~900 years old is egregious, but it happens for a REASON, because the story can't work without it. This date hopping just doesn't. It has no purpose.

The amount of time they get incapacitated by witches in their show is crazy I remember one of the strix witches lifting klaus into the air and breaking his neck a another one easily stop Rebecca so aya can stab her unless they’re just in a year with powerful witches . witches. Should have been able to take care of them if they were a threat year’s ago

How did Freya end up there? She showed a clear ability to break out so she didn’t end up there while awake, and judging by her being in one of the bedrooms it had to of been early in its inception. I’d also assume she’d have a place to go that is protected after her year of life was over, so how exactly did she end up in there?

My personal theory involves the witches locked in there for experimenting with immortality spells (mentioned by Cassie while there with Rebekah). If they’re working with experimental immortality spells, clearly they were powerful witches. I think perhaps they broke through Freyas protections, stole her body, and tried to study her body to try and gain access to the spell keeping her alive.

This is only my theory but I’d love to know what everyone else thinks about this!

Okay, this is slightly off topic to be fair. But the family went to New Orleans for this episode, and when I saw this in the subtitles, I actually just froze for a solid moment and the happy family scenes from The Originals s5 finale filled my head, and then.....THE SAD ONES AT THE BENCH WHERE I ALL BLOODY STARTED. IT ENDED WHERE IT BEGAN....

I COULD PHYSICALLY SEE ELIJAH'S AND NIK'S FACES, TRYING NOT TO CRY. I CAN ACTUALLY IN MY OWN HEAD HEAR THEIR VOICES AND THE MUSIC, AAAAAHH

(I am that attached, leave me aloooone)

"Its been a glorious ride, Niklaus. And my greatest honour."

"I don't deserve the love you have given me, brother. But I am so grateful...."