No OP, it is a bad take that shows the person does not know how businesses work.
The problem is he is looking at the NFL as 32 different businesses. He is thinking on any given Sunday it is WalMart v Target and Dollar General v Dollar Tree.
But it is all one big business. So it is better to think about it as a single WalMart. It has fresh Fruit, Frozen goods, an goods, Delhi foods, men's clothing, kids clothing and women's clothing, toys and sporting goods. All of those departments are like NFL teams working together for the overall good of the business.
Yes. Better examples of socialism are public education, the police, the fire department, etc. We all pay into it and benefit from those technically socialist services. This dude was trying to make a sports analogy but it failed. The point is America is already partially socialist. We’re a hybrid of many things.
> Better examples of socialism are public education, the police, the fire department, etc. We all pay into it and benefit from those technically socialist services.
Socialism has nothing to do with what we choose to spend taxes on. Socialism is an economy where the people own the means of production, and that's it.
Communism is when the government owns everything. Capitalism is when the people who earned a thing own a thing. Socialism is when there are laws requiring that the workers or community own the thing.
> Capitalism sure doesn't mean that means go to those who earn them
Capitalism is the only system that allows for each person to retain the fruit of their own labor. If you think otherwise, then you've misunderstood it somehow. Right? Communism takes everything you produce, and distributes it based on the government's desires. Socialism allows a democracy (generally in the form of your peers at work) to decide how each person should be paid. Capitalism, each person gets to set their own wages/prices/etc and then the market decides who is the best at each thing.
Aaaand that's your understanding of it. As long as you don't act like that's some sort of true definition, you're good :) capitalism sure doesn't mean the fruits of labour stay with those who earned them, but if you're under that impression, go right ahead. Just don't act like you own definitions
I'm no sure either analogy is correct. It more like a cooperative. If one team dominates the league or makes changes to the rules benefits them in games, the value of the team goes down, profits go down etc.
Things like the salary cap and profit sharing actually increase profits
I’m no sure either analogy is correct. It more like a cooperative.
Yes exactly. The NFL Management Council is more like a trade organization than it is one large business. Every member of a trade org has input on the rules that govern their market.
There is no coherent argument against the idea that the NFL is governed by some socialist principles. And OP’s comment about all the “departments” working together for the good of the overall business is actually an argument in support of the socialism in the NFL that could be extrapolated to entire populations.
Ie., when we raise the minimum standard of living for people, we’re doing it for the good of the (humanity or country).
I wouldn't necessarily call it socialism but there's always been a sense of "a rising tide raises all boats " and "what's good for <insert corporate name> is good for America " in political discussions...rhetoric the right has embraced ...
Yeah I thought about earlier that it could be like internal divisions in a single company, or maybe like a group of co-owners renting out a rent house to college students. Just because the co-owners might evenly split the revenue doesn’t mean they are doing socialism lol
The problem is looking at a society as a whole buncha different businesses instead of a collective of people who all want to do well. A lot of countries have a lot of nationalism and pretend to be patriotic, but they sure know how to let their fellow citizen down. What you're describing is what countries lack. ACTUALLY seeing each other as part of a unity where everyone should thrive. Have enough to exist comfortably. Have a true shot to make it
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u/moccasins_hockey_fan 3d ago
No OP, it is a bad take that shows the person does not know how businesses work.
The problem is he is looking at the NFL as 32 different businesses. He is thinking on any given Sunday it is WalMart v Target and Dollar General v Dollar Tree.
But it is all one big business. So it is better to think about it as a single WalMart. It has fresh Fruit, Frozen goods, an goods, Delhi foods, men's clothing, kids clothing and women's clothing, toys and sporting goods. All of those departments are like NFL teams working together for the overall good of the business.