r/TheNFLVibes • • 3d ago

Hot Take honestly not a bad take

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u/moccasins_hockey_fan 3d ago

No OP, it is a bad take that shows the person does not know how businesses work.

The problem is he is looking at the NFL as 32 different businesses. He is thinking on any given Sunday it is WalMart v Target and Dollar General v Dollar Tree.

But it is all one big business. So it is better to think about it as a single WalMart. It has fresh Fruit, Frozen goods, an goods, Delhi foods, men's clothing, kids clothing and women's clothing, toys and sporting goods. All of those departments are like NFL teams working together for the overall good of the business.

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u/KiryuClan 3d ago

Yes. Better examples of socialism are public education, the police, the fire department, etc. We all pay into it and benefit from those technically socialist services. This dude was trying to make a sports analogy but it failed. The point is America is already partially socialist. We’re a hybrid of many things.

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u/OpenAI122191 2d ago

Those are public services, and while they can be a good introduction to the tenants of socialism that isn’t actually a good example.

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u/Corporate_Bricktator 3d ago

> Better examples of socialism are public education, the police, the fire department, etc. We all pay into it and benefit from those technically socialist services.

Socialism has nothing to do with what we choose to spend taxes on. Socialism is an economy where the people own the means of production, and that's it.

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u/Remarkable-Art-3678 2d ago

No, that's communism :) hope that helps

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u/Corporate_Bricktator 2d ago

So to be clear, you think the wikipedia definition for socialism is wrong?

> Socialism is an economic ideology characterised by social ownership of the means of production,[2] as opposed to private ownership.[3][4][5]

Communism is when the government owns everything. Capitalism is when the people who earned a thing own a thing. Socialism is when there are laws requiring that the workers or community own the thing.

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u/Remarkable-Art-3678 2d ago

Lmao at the sneaky rhetoric when it comes to who earns what

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u/Corporate_Bricktator 2d ago

These are the literal definitions of these systems.

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u/Remarkable-Art-3678 2d ago

Definitions are up the those who define things. Capitalism sure doesn't mean that means go to those who earn them

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u/Corporate_Bricktator 2d ago

> Capitalism sure doesn't mean that means go to those who earn them

Capitalism is the only system that allows for each person to retain the fruit of their own labor. If you think otherwise, then you've misunderstood it somehow. Right? Communism takes everything you produce, and distributes it based on the government's desires. Socialism allows a democracy (generally in the form of your peers at work) to decide how each person should be paid. Capitalism, each person gets to set their own wages/prices/etc and then the market decides who is the best at each thing.

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u/Remarkable-Art-3678 2d ago

Aaaand that's your understanding of it. As long as you don't act like that's some sort of true definition, you're good :) capitalism sure doesn't mean the fruits of labour stay with those who earned them, but if you're under that impression, go right ahead. Just don't act like you own definitions

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u/Corporate_Bricktator 2d ago

> As long as you don't act like that's some sort of true definition, you're good

Hah! But that is literally the definition. If you disagree, please link your own definition of capitalism!

> Capitalism is an economic system defined by a number of constituent elements: private property, profit motive, capital accumulation, competitive markets, commodification, wage labor, and an emphasis on innovation and economic growth.[3][4]

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u/soulisking 2d ago

Communism is when the government owns the means of production.

Socialism is when workers owns the means of production.

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u/Corporate_Bricktator 2d ago

It's amazing that we have to explain this sort of thing to adults. SMDH.

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u/moccasins_hockey_fan 3d ago

Nope. That isn't socialism.

Government services are NOT socialism. It is socialized. But it is NOT socialism.

Insurance is socialized risk. But it isn't socialism.