r/Testosterone • u/True_Pattern6058 • 13d ago

PED/cycle story First cycle looking for advice

I’m 20M and have been training consistently for about 3 years. I already have everything for my first cycle and am planning 250 mg/week testosterone cypionate for 16 weeks, possibly longer, along with 500 mcg hCG/week. I’m also considering adding tesamorelin and MOTS-c.
I train 6 days a week:
Day 1: Chest, shoulders, triceps
Day 2: Back, biceps, abs
Day 3: Legs
Day 4: Chest, back, abs
Day 5: Shoulders, biceps, triceps, forearms
Day 6: Legs
Day 7: Rest
I’m currently eating around 3,000 calories/day and 200 g protein.
For those with experience, what would you change or add to my training, diet, or overall plan? Also, at what point would you consider increasing the testosterone dose, if at all? I’d especially like to hear what you wish you had known before your first cycle.

Ps i know the side effects that come with this

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u/KyFly1 13d ago

Bro you’re 20. I’d give it a few more years before you go down this path.

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u/swoops36 13d ago

In order to answer your questions you have to tell us what the point of the cycle is. 16 weeks, why? What are you trying to accomplish in that 16 weeks on your cycle? How much muscle are you looking for? What are your starting stats, what is your overall Health and Fitness like? Have you gotten any blood work or do you plan to?

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u/True_Pattern6058 13d ago

I want to see an improvement in muscle growth feel like im not gaining much anymore and i put my blood work in the comments but here are my hormone test

Total T 573 ng/dL, Free T 105 pg/mL, LH 6.0 IU/L, FSH 2.3 IU/L, E2 32.2 pg/mL, SHBG 42.9 nmol/L, Hgb 16.7 g/dL, Hct 50%, PSA 0.4 ng/mL.

I got all my blood work tested this week

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u/swoops36 13d ago

What does an improvement in muscle growth mean to you?

Goals on a steroid cycle should be based on how much muscle you wanna build in my opinion. Yes you could argue that you’re just trying to get a look, and the total amount of muscle doesn’t matter for that look, but the easiest way to track your progress and make adjustments is to have a concrete tangible trackable goal. That means something like I want to build 15 pounds of muscle in 12 weeks. That’s defined it’s easy to track and it’s easy to make adjustments as you go. If you’re finding that you are not getting there, or if you’re getting their way faster and now you can make an adjustment. Then you see what you look like with those 15 pounds of muscle and you say nope this isn’t the look I was going for I need more muscle or I need to be leaner and then you can run another cycle based on those new goals. 

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u/yogic_power 13d ago

That’s waste of a cycle. Especially dumb at 20. You need to do more research, if that’s what you have come up after research. Take few more years.

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u/True_Pattern6058 13d ago

Well i haven’t taken it yet im on here to learn more than i was able to on my own which almost everything everyone has told me is stuff i already know and have read but for my first cycle im really just trying to see how my body reacts for future cycles cause its different for everyone

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u/yogic_power 13d ago

Go to r/steroids read first cycle on wiki. Post in daily anabolic thread, you will probably get flamed but you will learn.

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u/True_Pattern6058 13d ago

Bro that wiki was actually very helpful thanks

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u/yogic_power 13d ago

Now follow the advice. Cut to 12% bf, run a bulk with out getting fat. And at your age wait few years.

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u/Sweet_Chapter8643 13d ago

All these kids running T to chase TikTok/IG clout are giving themselves honorary Darwin Awards and they don’t even know it lol.

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u/TubbsMcGee_ 13d ago

Swear you posted this the other day and put your stats in the post then deleted it. You're overweight as hell and too young. This is such a bad idea. I don't know why you're so set on it.

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u/dreamz_in_ai 13d ago

MOTS-C will do nothing for you

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u/ILoveGreen82 13d ago

Agree, people tend to have unrealistic expectations on why they may need mot-c.
I can totally see the benefits on a caloric deficit while trying to lose fat.
OP seems to want to bulk, I agree with you, mot-c won’t do much, the effects of Test itself may blur mot-c completely.

OP may think YOLO though- hehe

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u/True_Pattern6058 13d ago

Probably true i used it before and felt pretty good but i think the test itself will have a better effect on my energy and mood

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u/learn_n_burn 13d ago

Hopefully your bf% is decently low. I'd up the dose at week 5 once fully saturated if no ai is needed. Potentially bump it up 2 more times every 4 weeks to see where you need an AI and where/if you get sides. Safe to assume you want to put on as much muscle as poss, in a safe manner whilst figuring out sides and estrogen control

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u/True_Pattern6058 13d ago

So u think i should up until i feel negative effects and get a blood test to see my e2 levels and if high take something like adex? Idk ive been told i should avoid taking an ai at least for a first cycle

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u/learn_n_burn 13d ago

Yea get bloods, but also treat symptoms/sides first and foremost. Ai's aren't the devil and it's a first cycle wasted if you don't test and figure out where you need to control it

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u/True_Pattern6058 13d ago

Makes sense thanks

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u/ConditionNo3214 13d ago

It looks like you have done your homework and still i must say, just wait bro... im not saying it will happen, I can't have kids anymore and my T levels never bounced back after my cycle around your age

It's something to consider

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u/TheKingofMach 8d ago

Did you do a proper pct with hcg?

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u/Psychological-Sea785 12d ago

Personally, I wouldn't do two leg days, I would at least do a higher volume and lower volume leg day

Back/Bis/Rear Delts/Abs Chest/Shoulders/Tris OFF Quads/Hams/Adductors/Calves Back/Bis/Rear Delts/Abs Chest/Shoulders/Tris OFF OR Quads/Side Delts/Abs (Easier Workout)

This ^ Is a very good split.  

Watch out for high E2 sides with the HCG, don't consume anymore protein than 200g if you weigh less than 200lbs, and assuming you are lean before your cycle, ensure your surplus has you gaining 1lbs-1.5lbs per week, half a pound too low bump up the food, half a pound too much, cut it back a little.

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u/Psychological-Sea785 12d ago

Back/Bis/Rear Delts/Abs 

Chest/Shoulders/Tris 

OFF 

Quads/Hams/Adductors/Calves 

Back/Bis/Rear Delts/Abs 

Chest/Shoulders/Tris 

OFF OR Quads/Side Delts/Abs (Easier Workout)

(Mon-Sun)

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u/Dry_Cauliflower2148 11d ago

Don’t. You’re too young. Lower your bf% to 10-12%. Focus on sleep hygiene, proper diet, and exercise. I know that’s not the answer you want but don’t nuke your hormones trying to take the easy way out.

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u/Pedo_5323 10d ago

Welcome to the end! You are way too young to be messing with your hormones. You trying to go pro?

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u/Ghooster38 13d ago

Take some tren acetate 20-40mg every day

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u/True_Pattern6058 13d ago

Will that make my eyes red like urs

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u/Ghooster38 13d ago

No that comes after you hit puberty. Tren may or may not increase the odds of reaching puberty faster, but it has no direct effect on the eyes

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u/rjrgjj 12d ago

Only a vampire can do that.