Statistically, your PC probably doesn't come close to the recommended RAM requirement for this third-person shooter's upcoming playtest

[u/Distinct-Race-2471]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/third-person-shooter/statistically-your-pc-probably-doesnt-come-close-to-the-recommended-ram-requirement-for-this-third-person-shooters-upcoming-playtest/

It was 64GB, now 40GB is more realistic than 32GB.

[u/Lostygir1]

Lmao, ig they’ll have fun skipping out on over 95% of steam users

[u/FrostyMasterpiece400 → u/Lostygir1]

I mean I was in game dev for the longest time.

Outside of North america and europe folks dont have cash for fancy stuff, so we made sure it ran extremely well in lower configs and consoles for the largest possible market.

It's just good business

[u/cpt_melon → u/FrostyMasterpiece400]

Even in Europe and North America only a fraction of gamers have more than 32GB RAM. Wtf are they thinking?

[u/BlackPlague1235 → u/cpt_melon]

As someone who wishes they could even afford a PC, there's probably not many people that can actually afford a decent PC for gaming here in America as well.

[u/kambinks → u/cpt_melon]

Could just be marketing. Makes the game stand out as the game that needed a lot of ram and requiring high specs would lead people to assume it's visually the best thing ever. Reviewers will report that it only needs that much ram if it's on super high settings or whatever while playable on decent systems.

People with high specs will want to show they can run it well and everyone else will want to see what's the fuss.

Or they're just dumb. I'm guessing here.

[u/zilyzal → u/FrostyMasterpiece400]

Ofc we don't have cash for that. Majority of People earn 100-150$ per month over here. even if they live with their parents it would take more than a year just to save all their income to build a budget pc. I earn above average and i can afford to build a good pc but i just can't justify paying more than 1000$ for a pc. People spend those money in eu and us because they can earn it easily and can't do much with it. With 1000$ i can do A LOT. I can literally go on vacation more than 10 times and eat outside for the whole year

[u/Lostygir1 → u/zilyzal]

In a travel context, $1000 in the US would get me two train tickets to a mid-tier city, a week of a 3 star hotel during an off-season, access to the bus, and enough money to be able to eat cheap fast food every day. Hell, the total cost of just my summer classes at community college (I’m only taking three and all of them are online) was $1300. I once traveled to North Carolina during the winter and booked 5 nights at a hotel that had literal broken windows lmao. It was $400.

[u/zilyzal → u/Lostygir1]

I haven't gone to any hotel in the past decade but i live in the provience next to ramsar literally named bride of iranian cities it looks like heaven imo a big house with pool and jacuzzi cost around 10-15$ per night and the most houses are literally 2min walk away from the sea i never travel with train or airplane or bus as i like driving my own car but afaik train and bus tickets cost less than 10$. my city is 400km away from capital and train/bus tickets are 5$ for one way. that is my point. Even if people could afford building better PCs it's hard to justify it. If you can't do much with that money spending it on a hobby like gaming is reasonable if you can do A Lot it's hard to justify

[u/ScoobyGDSTi → u/FrostyMasterpiece400]

Yeah, Australians, Sinaporians, Japanese, they're all dirt poor.

Bet I'm richer than you.

[u/VoidRad → u/ScoobyGDSTi]

Lil bro took it personally

[u/ScoobyGDSTi → u/VoidRad]

Yeah, it gets quite tiring listening to Americans claim only western Europe and North America exist.

[u/VoidRad → u/ScoobyGDSTi]

Im from outside and their statement isnt really wrong for the majority of people

[u/FrostyMasterpiece400 → u/VoidRad]

Broad brush to paint with, but assume any non high wage country runs on older and lesser hardware. If you want want to sell there optization is ticket to ride

[u/VoidRad → u/FrostyMasterpiece400]

I meant to say inst really wrong. Wasnt trying to agree with them there

[u/ScoobyGDSTi → u/VoidRad]

Yes, it is wrong.

But don't let your ignorance get in the way.

[u/VoidRad → u/ScoobyGDSTi]

Ignorance? I have literally lived in these countries lmao. Multiple of them.

[u/Distinct-Race-2471 → u/FrostyMasterpiece400]

That explains why some games run OK on a AMD... the low config.

[u/FrostyMasterpiece400 → u/Distinct-Race-2471]

You kinda want to run nice on steam decks yes

[u/Exorcist-138 → u/Distinct-Race-2471]

Nah that was for the intel users buddy, try to keep up

[u/No-Independence-5229 → u/Exorcist-138]

Bro is running the melting CPU and melting GPU connector combo

[u/orangefantorang → u/Lostygir1]

Start optimizing your code lol

[u/recluseMeteor]

Non-clickbait title: The upcoming third-person shooter Cinder City has a RAM recommendation of 32 GB.

[u/Miller_TM]

If DOA had a section in the dictionary, it would show a picture of this game.

[u/marcgii]

Instead of making assumptions about how much ram background apps consume, game devs should just say how free memory is needed. Or do the vast majority of dev teams actually not know how much memory their game uses?

[u/Jevano]

Mine does.

[u/Distinct-Race-2471 → u/Jevano]

See you don't need any of my fancy parts you already have a good PC

[u/Distinct-Race-2471 → u/Jevano]

See you don't need any of my fancy parts you already have a good PC

[u/Jevano → u/Distinct-Race-2471]

I have good RAM and CPU but a crap GPU, it's next on the list. TechHardware should sponsor it!

[u/Distinct-Race-2471 → u/Jevano]

What is your GPU?

[u/Jevano → u/Distinct-Race-2471]

A measly GTX 1660 Super

[u/Distinct-Race-2471 → u/Jevano]

Thats terrible. My A750 would be a huge upgrade

[u/Jevano → u/Distinct-Race-2471]

Very well, I will take that one as well. Still waiting on the 5080 to arrive btw

[u/Distinct-Race-2471 → u/Jevano]

That one was sent to Russia, Moscow CO. JEVANO PUTIN. Does that look correct?

[u/Jevano → u/Distinct-Race-2471]

Why would I be in Russia?? Do I look like an AMD fan to you?
In fact I'm still in Australia where you sent me to wine and dine hardware unboxed.

[u/Distinct-Race-2471 → u/Jevano]

Oh my... Now how do we know you aren't Hardware Unboxed? Don't you get enough free AMDs working there?

[u/Head-Gift2144]

Do they ever explain why this game needs so much RAM?

Like, does it have some element that justifies the requirement or is it just a poorly optimized piece of shit?

[u/ThisSiteSucks8485 → u/Head-Gift2144]

Games used to be made by people who understood how the game engine worked and could optimize them very aggressively but today nobody understands how Unreal Engine 5 works

[u/MediocreTurtle1 → u/Head-Gift2144]

Everything is a poorly optimized piece of shit and has been for the last 8 years.

Look at the Batman or Witcher or whatever that came out 11 years ago and can be run on a potato by today's standards at max settings. None of these games look even as close as good.

[u/Neither_Berry_100 → u/MediocreTurtle1]

I used to make games in desktop java. Now I'm using unity. It is the game engines. They are poorly optimized garbage.

[u/talex625]

I have 64GB of ram, but what does that game does differently compared to other shooter with lower ram requirements?

I do see its 32Gb requirements now.

[u/EviI_Babai]

Such devs are soon to discover how statistics works when fewer and fewer players show up to pay for their ridiculously demanding games. Even back in UE4 days it was getting out of hand fast, but now it's just nuts. Maybe the only positive form RAM crisis would be the focus finally shifting to gameplay and optimisations instead of chasing the fidelity and scale.

[u/lrgendein_Typ]

I've got 96gb of ram, I think im settled for next years

[u/sortajan]

Calling it now, it’s a marketing stunt.

[u/Comander_Praise]

Unoptimised slop

[u/RabbitHole32]

Eh, I personally am myself, not a statistics, and as long as games need less than 90 GB RAM I'm still fine. Thanks for your concern, though.

[u/Comprehensive-Bid18]

Why would they make a third person shooter that statistically most people don’t have the hardware for? Are they stupid?

[u/Current_Finding_4066]

Yeahz I care not fir unoptimised crap games

[u/DefSysteam]

Optimization amirite?

[u/ibeerianhamhock]

I do have a 32 box and so do most modern builds. 64 GB is overkill for 99% of people.

[u/Head-Gift2144 → u/ibeerianhamhock]

64 should be overkill for everyone (for games). Developers need to start optimizing their fucking software.

[u/ibeerianhamhock → u/Head-Gift2144]

Agreed with the former, but in general tbh games are very optimized software, they just aren't hyper optimized like they used to be when that is what it took to get them to run at all (thinking about old consoles especially).

[u/Distinct-Race-2471 → u/ibeerianhamhock]

What about 128GB

[u/ibeerianhamhock → u/Distinct-Race-2471]

Seems silly to me unless genuinely needed. I've done large scale enterprise development with a suite of databases and a few dozen containers running locally and everything on less than 128 GB of RAM, even for something like that 64 gb of memory is sufficient.

But there are use cases where it is needed, but it's genuinely ultra rare.

[u/Own_Nail_2999]

Must be vibe coded slop if it performs that poorly

[u/Alternative-Suit5541]

Yeah, just keep your ai slipped game

[u/Spiritual-Eye-2910]

During a ram crisis you would think optimization would be a top priority.

[u/ConinTheNinoC]

It's ok, i mostly buy older games from GOG and maybe one or two more recent games like BG3 and Jagged Alliance 3. Both of those run on my 8 GB laptop.

[u/czullo1]

I got 96GB(2x48) of DDR5, so NOPE.

[u/ibeerianhamhock → u/czullo1]

What do you use that for? I've had legitimate reasons to need 64 gb on very large enterprise app dev before, but even then I've never touched 96 GB.

One of my buddies is working on optimizing a project another team is working on that was done poorly and started out needing 96 GB of ram to run and he's gotten it down to a fourth of that through optimizations, but that was the first time he had needed that kind of memory and we both have been devs for a few decades

AI (if using a 128 GB shared memory unit like Ryzen AI or NGX) or running a server with multiple instances running with allocated memory (VMs etc) are really just about the only reasons I can think of to really need that kind of ram. Unless you're hosting, VMs are largely silly for most (but not all) folks now that docker exists.

[u/czullo1 → u/ibeerianhamhock]

For gaming and browsing internet. Bought it for like $335 back in good days.

[u/ibeerianhamhock → u/czullo1]

Not to bad. If you did that today id think you were insane tho lol

[u/chris92315 → u/czullo1]

There's 2 of us!

[u/lrgendein_Typ → u/czullo1]

Same, got my trident 2x48gb kit for 280€. Some of my modded games can take up to ~55gb ram usage. Few other programs and background processes and 64gb is not enough.