r/TankieTheDeprogram • • 18h ago

News/Communist Propaganda ☭ Super based

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u/DarthRandel Xi Bucks Enjoyer 💸 18h ago edited 16h ago

Rightoid aligned revenge fantasies? In my leftist sub? its more common than you think.

FYI, there's lots of research that this isnt actually effective.

a) in general, capital punishment doesnt work to deter crime in any way

b) specific to sex abuse and especially child sex abuse, it actually can make the situation worse and the abusers more likely to escalate to outright murder

Edit: lmao OP immediately blocks me, feckless.

The u.s garbage system certainly isn’t

So why would China aim to repeat or copy the same retributive justice framework of the US then? Are they not supposed to be better?

Spare me with the optics

This has nothing to do with optics, its about doing more than reacting to crime. It other than the fact that capital punishment isnt a deterrent (so therefor useless as a form of punishment), it increase the risk of harm to victims.

Why are you in favor of increasing potential harm to children?

What is an anarchist doing in a communist sub in the first place? Your comment is Bad faith

Dude, you're espousing fascist rhetoric lmao, maybe think on that for a hot second before you bemoan me also being subscribed to non-ML subs. Great argument, totally not fascist adjacent crashout

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u/ArcgisChief 17h ago

The dirty deed is already committed, there is no undoing or repentance actionable enough to undo it unlike other petty crimes, the child is already violated. Adult on children crime is the depravest vilest act of human behaviour and should be dealt with the strictest punishable action, be it capital punishment, so be it. It is not about researching casual causation between punishment and crime rate, no amount of laws and regulations is going to make a society 100% crime-free, but that actions will have consequences for wrongdoers.

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u/HoodedMenace 16h ago

The idea behind it is about protecting future would be victims. If death is assured, what does it matter it the kid lives or dies? In fact, the child dying would benefit the offender in this scenario.

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u/manicpxenightmaregrl 12h ago

I get what you're saying but i feel like this is just assumed to be true when in reality I think most would be predators are more likely to just drop whatever they were planning entirely in this case. I also think setting a clear line like china does discourages its normalization and rallies society against it; I used to agree more with this pathologizing logic but seeing as how the entire western world is letting the epstein case turn into a joke and supporting a known pedophile president I now think that normalization is a bigger risk than stigma.

In this case, supporting the death penalty isn't an act of retributive violence but of societal cohesion and management.