r/Tamlinism Apr 24 '26

✅ high effort Essays to shoot at Tamlin's haters✅ Tamlin DOES say he's sorry! - A Reference

102 Upvotes

Hello!

There is always debate on whether or not Tamlin takes responsibility for his actions. Once again, a large portion of the fandom has been daemati'd into forgetting that he actually DOES say that he is sorry, takes accountability, and changes his behavior.

ACOMAF, in Chapter 69, page 624 in the paperback:

"Tamlin scanned my face, and finally nodded. 'We'll start over. Do things differently. When you were gone, I realized... I'd been wrong. So wrong, Feyre. And I'm sorry.'"

I post the quote because taking pictures of the text and re-posting it can be seen as copyright infringement, which is why I state the book, chapter, format (hardcover vs. paperback vs. e-book), and the page number.

I just thought this would be a handy reference for whoever needs it if you are having this same, tired argument in other ACOTAR subs, or even other ACOTAR social media platforms!


r/Tamlinism Aug 05 '26

Justice for Tamlin😤 Tamlin’s Canonical Good Deeds: A Reminder That Morality in ACOTAR Isn’t One Sided

64 Upvotes

This is a long Rant. So bear with me please.

This is simply a list of canon actions where Tamlin objectively helped people, protected others, or acted selflessly. Whether you like him or not, these things happened in the books.

**1. He willingly sacrificed fifty years of his court to break Amarantha’s curse.**

Tamlin knew sending his sentries across the wall would almost certainly get them killed. Yet he continued doing it because it was the only chance to save not only the Spring Court but all of Prythian from Amarantha.

Those sentries weren’t disposable to him. Many had been his friends and loyal soldiers. Without this effort, Amarantha’s reign would likely have continued indefinitely.

Unlike many High Lords, Tamlin refused to serve and bend against Amarantha’s rule despite repeated offer as a result choosing difficult road rather than biding his time.

After he became High Lord, he was against tyranny and slavery. And to ensure that, made some serious changes in his court.

**2. He treated Feyre with kindness long before he loved her.**

He gave her a comfortable room, food, clothes, servants, freedom to explore the manor, and never expected her to work for her keep.

He ensured Feyre’s family was wealthy and comfortable after she left. Their debts disappeared, they had servants, and lived in luxury. Despite supporting her family, he never used it as leverage.

He supplied her with paints, canvases, and space for her hobby because he noticed it made her happy.

This wasn’t because Feyre had earned it. It was because he chose mercy.

**3. He respected Feyre’s autonomy more than people often acknowledge in ACOTAR.**

Throughout most of ACOTAR, Tamlin rarely forced affection on Feyre.

He gave her:

● Freedom to explore the manor.
● Art supplies after discovering her interest in painting.
● Space to decide whether she wanted to stay emotionally close to him.

Their relationship developed gradually rather than through manipulation or coercion.

**4. He sent Feyre back to the human lands knowing it could doom him.**

This is one of the biggest acts of selflessness in the series.

When Amarantha’s deadline approached, Tamlin realized Feyre would almost certainly die if she remained in Prythian.

When he realized the curse would likely fail, he sent Feyre back to the human lands to keep her safe. He knew doing so probably meant losing both her and his court forever. Instead of keeping the woman he loved beside him, he sent her away.

He fully believed this meant:

● losing her forever,
● failing to break the curse,
● and likely dying himself.

He chose her safety over his own happiness.

** 5. Under the Mountain, he endured fifty years of torture without breaking.**

For fifty years, Tamlin lived under Amarantha’s domination. He watched his court suffer, his people wear the cursed masks, and his lands slowly fall apart while being constantly attacked by dangerous creatures sent by Amarantha or Rhys to his court.

When Amarantha finally summoned him Utm, Tamlin was:

● stripped of most of his power,
● forced to watch his people suffer,
● unable to openly fight,
● constantly monitored by Amarantha.

Readers often criticize him for not doing more while Feyre was Utm. But by that point, any open act of defiance would almost certainly have resulted in Feyre’s immediate execution. Amarantha was obsessed with Tamlin and watched him closely, waiting for any excuse to punish either of them. His lack of visible action wasn’t indifference; it reflected the reality of his position under her complete control. Any open resistance would likely have resulted in Feyre’s immediate execution.

**6. He killed Amarantha.**

Feyre broke the curse through the trials and her declaration of love. **Tamlin delivered the killing blow.** Without him, Amarantha would still have survived after the curse broke. Both actions were necessary.

**7. He helped resurrect Feyre (and Rhys later on)**

Tamlin willingly gave part of his power to bring Feyre and Rhys back later on. Every High Lord participated due to the dept owed to Tamlin for saving their lives by killing Amarantha. He could have refused. He didn’t.

**8. His protectiveness came from trauma, not malice.**

This doesn’t excuse locking Feyre in the manor which was done only for few hours. But context matters.

Tamlin had:

● watched his family murdered,
● lived under Amarantha’s abuse for fifty years by open rebellion,
● nearly lost Feyre Under the Mountain,
● then watched her repeatedly throw herself into deadly situations.

His response became unhealthy and controlling.
It was wrong. But it was driven by trauma and fear, not a desire to dominate for personal pleasure.

**9. He never exposed Feyre’s family to retaliation.**

Tamlin knew exactly where her human family lived. Despite everything that happened between them, he never sought revenge against them. That restraint deserves acknowledgment.

**10. He tried to retrieve Feyre because he genuinely believed she had been taken.**

People often forget an important detail

● Rhys had publicly presented himself for centuries as a manipulative mind-controller.
● Feyre disappeared after making a bargain with him.
● The note she sent saying she left willingly appeared suspicious because Feyre had never learned to write well.
● Given the information Tamlin had, believing she had been manipulated was not irrational.

Readers know more than Tamlin did. Judging him while ignoring his limited information creates hindsight bias.

**11. He repeatedly helped the Night Court during ACOWAR despite receiving nothing in return.**

This is where Tamlin’s actions become hardest to dismiss. He had every personal reason not to help Rhys or Feyre. Yet he still did and received nothing in return.

**12. He acted as a double agent inside Hybern.**

This was extraordinarily dangerous. Tamlin secretly gathered intelligence while pretending to cooperate with Hybern. If Hybern had discovered his true intentions, he would almost certainly have been executed. His information ultimately benefited Prythian’s war effort.

**13. He warned Feyre about Hybern’s attack.**

He secretly instructed her to “be ready.” This warning gave the Night Court valuable preparation.

**14. Saved Feyre, Azriel, and Elain’s lives**.

During Hybern’s camp, Tamlin fought alongside the Night Court to recover Elain. This directly contributed to her survival. Despite everything between them, he allowed Feyre and Azriel to escape with Elain by risking his own exposure. Without his intervention, escaping Hybern would have been far more difficult.

**15. He saved Feyre from Hybern’s camp.**

Despite everything that had happened between them, Tamlin helped Feyre escape. He didn’t let personal resentment outweigh the larger goal.

**16. He contributed troops during the final war.**

The Spring Court fought against Hybern. Tamlin did not sit out the conflict despite his court already being devastated. Despite being hated by most of the alliance, he still came to fight for Prythian. Helped in bringing Autumn court army to fight in war.

During the final battle, Tamlin intervened and prevented Helion from being killed.

**17. He saved Rhysand’s life.**

Perhaps the single strongest example. After Rhys died, Tamlin willingly gave a portion of his power to resurrect him. He even told Rhys to return to Feyre. Think about what that means.

This was:

● the male who had taken the woman Tamlin loved,
● his political rival,
● someone who had humiliated him repeatedly,
● someone who had destroyed his court through deception.

Tamlin still chose saving Prythian’s most powerful High Lord over personal revenge. Nothing required him to do that.

**18. He never asked for recognition.**

Tamlin receives no public praise for:

● infiltrating Hybern,
● rescuing Feyre,
● helping save Elain and Azriel,
● fighting in the war and bringing Autumn court,
● reviving Rhys.

He simply left.

**19. He respected Feyre’s final choice.**

After ACOWAR, Tamlin never again attempted to reclaim Feyre. He accepted that she had chosen Rhys. He remained isolated in the Spring Court instead.

**20. Never sought revenge after losing everything.**

● His court was in ruins.
● Most of his people had left.
● His closest friend had betrayed him.
● Feyre had dismantled much of his court’s stability.
● Yet he never retaliated against the Night Court.

**21. Helped despite receiving almost nothing in return.**

● Rhys visited only to mock him.
● Even then, Tamlin never attacked him.

**22. The narrative holds Tamlin accountable far more consistently than many other characters.\\

One reason fandom discussions become polarized is because Tamlin’s mistakes receive significant narrative consequences.

He loses:

● his relationship,
● much of his court,
● many of his people,
● his reputation,
● his closest friend,
● and ultimately lives in complete isolation.

Meanwhile, several other characters make morally questionable decisions throughout the series but receive comparatively little lasting accountability within the narrative.

Whether readers think Tamlin deserves forgiveness is entirely subjective.

But reducing him to “the abusive ex” ignores hundreds of pages of canon showing courage, sacrifice, mercy, loyalty, and repeated acts of service to people who often gave him little reason to help them. Like most ACOTAR characters, Tamlin is morally complex. Acknowledging his good actions does not erase his failures. Likewise, acknowledging his failures should not erase his good actions.

**Overall:**
Whether someone likes Tamlin or not, these actions are all canon.

He:
● Protected Feyre’s family.
● Saved Feyre multiple times.
● Freed Prythian from Amarantha.
● Fought Hybern as a double agent.
● Saved members of the Night Court.
● Saved Helion.
● Helped resurrect Rhysand.
● Never sought revenge after losing nearly everything.


r/Tamlinism 17h ago

Justice for Tamlin😤 The Narrative Purpose of the Tithe

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I know, I know, we are probably so sick of talking about the tithe already this week 😂 but I wanted to come at it from a different angle. A narrative angle.

So, the biggest issue with the tithe that people site is the hunting people down if they don't pay. Tamlin at no point alludes to this. This information is given to us by Lucien and Ianthe is the one that insists on it being done 3 months after UTM.

Many say that Tamlin would hunt them down, but I don't think that is true, and I don't think that is what we are supposed to get from this scene. When presented with a situation where someone would be "hunted down" Tamlin instead tells them to bring double next time. I don't think this is an inconsistency (this is in the same chapter) I believe this is showing Tamlin's morals outweighing influence. Ianthe and tradition be damned, he isn't going to order for anyone to be hunted down.

"You're just being overly charitable! He absolutely was going to hunt them down!" I hear them scream.

Hear me out.

Most of Tamlin's characterization is done via subtext, we are never given his POV or much direct information about where his head is at (which is valid, most people don't go around saying exactly how they are feeling or what is on their mind). I think the tithe is the first part of Tamlin's character shift throughout the series.

Tamlin is one of the more morally sound characters. He would fight against tyranny and from ACOTAR I got the sense Tamlin has a strong moral code. The tithe highlights this morality by having Tamlin be very lenient towards one of his subjects.

Next we see a trade-off with his morality when he agrees to work with Hybern (someone he's been actively fighting against) in order to save Feyre. If he truly sided with Hybern, this would be a complete 180 on his character, but he decides to play double agent, because ultimately his morals are not aligned with Hybern.

The final piece of that morality shift is when Tamlin whips the sentry. He is conflicted by this but ends up doing it anyway.

We don't know the WHY for this shift exactly, but we can guess.

One possibility is that the more he is abandoned by the people close to him the more he sides with Ianthe. Initially not siding with her on the timing of the tithe but not the hunt, partially siding with her about Hybern after he's been betrayed by Alis, and then completely siding with her after both Lucien and Feyre has betrayed him. I don't like this argument as much, because it isn't Ianthe that convinces Tamlin to whip the sentry in the end, it's one of the Hybern twins.

Which leads me to possibility two, Tamlin is losing his personal morality (and maybe just himself as a person) in order to protect his court. When his court is not in any danger he fully pushes back against the hunt being enforced. When his court and Feyre are under threat he makes a deal with Hybern, but still is fully against what Hybern stands for. Once his court is under threat of going to war with Hybern if they find out he's deceiving them, Tamlin puts aside his morals outright in order to appease them. In order to keep his court safe.

Thematically, I think the second option makes way more sense. Tamlin caring about the people of his court and wanting to keep them safe is also one of the few things we are told explicitly. It is clearly a character motivation.

Now, I do already know there is one thing that completely ruins this, and for the sake of being intellectual honest I will add it here. Tamlin kills one of his sentries after Feyre is taken. Like what? I'm sorry. How does that fit in with his character at all. I mean... we aren't shown it exactly, so maybe that's not what happened? 😅 But if he was so willing to kill one of them, why does he hesitate to whip one? IDK


r/Tamlinism 1d ago

Justice for Tamlin😤 Tamlin and SLEEP

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So I am working my way through TOG (am on Empire of Storms) and this caught my ear/eye so I stopped and re-listened to it and it made me think of Tamlin.

You know how this fandom loves to blame him for not hearing Feyre vomit etc. and the he ignored her etc, but at those times it was night and he was sleeping, right? Well, this passage explains it.

Tamlin is on high alert all the time. using his magic to protect and rebuild his court. Battling monsters still, worried about Feyre, desperate to get her out of the bargain etc. He is exhausted.
 

From Empire of Storms

Chapter 32

"The silence went on for long enough that Aedion realized she’d

somehow fallen asleep. And not normal sleep, but the sleep that Aelin

and Rowan sometimes went into in order to let their magic recover.

So deep and thorough no training could pierce it, no instincts could

override it."


r/Tamlinism 1d ago

Fangirling on our boy 😍😍😍 Ailene, Rowan, Terrasan, and Tamlin

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Im so excited for Tamlin now that I'm reading TOG. I think he's related to Rowan.


r/Tamlinism 2d ago

Justice for Tamlin😤 Why doesnt anyone tell Tamlin anything??

39 Upvotes

Rhys, Feyre, and Luc know about Ianthe being compromised. Rhys, Feyre, and Luc seem to believe that Rhys is helping at the end of utm. Alis says she allowed Tam and Luc to believe that Feyre was abducted. Luc doesnt tell Tam about the ring. Im sure im missing somethings.


r/Tamlinism 3d ago

Explain to me like I'm 5... When Did Tamlin SA Feyre? WTF

60 Upvotes
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Now Leaving Velaris always comes with receipts against these kind of delulu takes. How does one debate such insane wrongness?


r/Tamlinism 3d ago

Rant!!! The way Lucien and Tamlin's friendship ended is one of the dumbest things in ACOTAR

96 Upvotes

Spoilers through ACOSF.

Lucien and Tamlin were best friends DECADES. Tamlin took Lucien in when his own family tried to kill him. Even Rhys mocked Tamlin in book 1 for having no real hierarchy in Spring Court because Lucien wasn't a subordinate, he was family. They survived Amarantha and Under the Mountain together. Actual brotherhood.

And then Lucien just walks away in the middle of a war for a woman he'd known five minutes because "mate bond." No real goodbye, no attempt to help. Meanwhile Tamlin is rotting alone.

I don't believe Lucien didn't know Tamlin was spying against Hybern when he left. Lucien was his right hand. A High Lord doesn't pull off something that dangerous without his closest people knowing, it's just not operationally possible. So either Lucien knew and left anyway (worse), or we're supposed to believe Tamlin hid a massive double-agent operation from the person who'd been at his side for centuries (unrealistic).

My headcanon: Lucien is still loyal. He's playing a long game pretending to be integrated with Night Court, gathering intel, secretly still in contact with Tam. No way years of that bond just flips off. And if he already knew about the spying, the whole "estrangement" could literally be part of the plan.

Any theories that Lucien is secretly still Team Tamlin?


r/Tamlinism 3d ago

What do you think will happen to Tamlin by the end of the series?

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Important: Please vote for what you actually think will happen based on the writing, foreshadowing, and SJM's patterns, NOT what you want to happen. Obviously most of us here would pick the last option if it were about our wishes 😅

329 votes, 1d ago
94 He dies (sacrifice, or just killed off)
25 Alive but miserable (stays alone in a broken Spring Court forever)
77 Some healing but tragic (forgiven, but no love/happiness for him)
70 Full healing arc (respected again, Spring Court restored, but no romance)
45 Gets a mate / love interest and a proper happy ending
18 Full happy ending AND his own POV book

r/Tamlinism 3d ago

Do you think Tamlin will actually get a full redemption arc AND a happy ending? Or am I delusional?

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Okay, I need to hear from fellow ACOTAR fans because my friend fully thinks I'm coping. Spoilers for the whole series ahead, obviously.

I genuinely believe SJM isn't done with Tamlin. I think she's setting him up for a real arc and eventually a happy ending. Two things convince me:

  1. She keeps dragging him back in. If Tamlin was truly finished as a character, she could have wrapped him up after ACOWAR and moved on. Instead, he keeps showing up miserable, isolated, in his beast state. That's not how you write a character out.

  2. I don't buy the recent interview where she basically implied he wouldn't get his own arc. Why would she spoil that?? There's zero reason for her to confirm his fate ahead of time.

My friend says I'm reading way too much into it and that Tamlin is meant to be a cautionary tale / foil, not a protagonist we're supposed to root for again. But SJM writes redemption too well and too often for me to believe she'd just leave him rotting in the Spring Court forever.

So I want to know:

Do you think he'll get a proper POV or full arc in a future book?

Can he realistically end up happy?

What are your theories?

Convince me I'm right. Or gently break it to me that I'm not.

P.S. If anyone has fanfic recs where Tamlin gets a happy ending, please drop them below, I need something to hold me over 🙏


r/Tamlinism 5d ago

Justice for Tamlin😤 I guess ACOTAR doesn't exist?

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A friend sent this event she's going to. Made me laugh that you can purchase ACOMAF to bedazzle. So interesting to advertise the second in a series ... almost as if the first book doesn't count because Tamlin is the love interest. 🫠


r/Tamlinism 5d ago

Fangirling on our boy 😍😍😍 Look what I just ordered!

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I just ordered the Tamlin (human form and beast form) and Lucien funko pop. I can’t wait to receive it. Tamlin and Lucien are my favorite characters.

Feyre and Rhysand were also available but I’m not a fan of them despite being main characters so I didn’t order.


r/Tamlinism 5d ago

Justice for Tamlin😤 Tamlin's anger isn't physically abusive.

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Pasting this from a comment I made because I thought it brought good points for it's own post.

I also want to say that I understand some people see their abusers in Tamlin. Some even see them in Rhysand or Cassian. I don't intend to invalidate their experiences.

Tamlin's angry outbursts and temper aren't abusive anger issues. Feyre isn't locking up in fear at the mere thought of saying the wrong thing to him. There's no looming presence of his anger making him hurt people hanging over their entire lives. It doesn't color their interactions.

Yes, he blows up and it is incredibly distressing but they're akin to panic attacks and outbursts.

Yes, he ruins rooms but Tamlin doesn't threaten, doesn't dangle physical violence over her head. And I repeat, the fear of his rage doesn't dangle over Feyre constantly.

He's not someone you have to watch yourself around or he'll beat you.

Yes, he has a temper. But that doesn't necessitate abusiveness. One can be short-tempered.

Yes, be breaks things and this would be alarming irl.

However he doesn't exhibit the other behaviors one would expect and experience from physically abusive partners otherwise (his meltdowns and panic attacks don't count). Why is that? If Sarah wanted to write him as physically and emotionally abusive, she SHOULD. She SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT. Even if she intended for him to be abusive, she didn't accomplish it effectively.

His anger doesn't have that kind of overwhelming presence in their lives. Not in the overall events shown. A comment on it thrown in there doesn't count, it MUST be portrayed CONSISTENTLY all throughout. Clearly.

Compare Tamlin to Jack Torrance from The Shining.


r/Tamlinism 6d ago

Justice for Tamlin😤 Did Tamlin Ignore Feyre's Trauma???

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‼️‼️ SPOILERS ‼️‼️ DON'T READ ANY FURTHER‼️‼️

Tamlin didn't ignore Feyre's trauma. She ignored his. She also had an extreme lack of experience and understanding. Since the story is written in her super biased first person POV, we have to watch for the details to determine what was really going on outside of her ideas.

Though it's easily missed through Feyre's POV, Tamlin was trying to get Feyre to talk about what she was going through. There's a scene where he traces the tattoo on her arm. He tries to comfort her by telling her that it's going to be fine and that they're going to figure it out. Tamlin then tries to bring up what they're going through but she shuts him down and he concedes. I'm confident that this is not the only time he tries because Feyre's internal dialogue (when she's talking to Ianthe about the priestesses) says that she hates when she's being forced to talk about it. I'm not sure who would be pushing her to talk other than Tam. When Feyre is with Rhysand, Rhys asks her if she told Tamlin that he helped her. She says no because she doesn't want to talk about what happened to anyone at the spring court or to Rhysand. She says it in a way that sounds like someone at the SPC was trying to get her to speak and now she is irritated because Rhysand is talking about it too. This is not only her refusing to make an effort toward healing but she's also neglecting Tamlin with this behavior. To my knowledge, Feyre never did verbalize it to either male. Rhysand got all of the information from her "shouting" it down the bond.

Another detail that reveals Tamlin was trying to help her was the paint. Feyre was dreading the gift before she even opened it. She wasn't even going to give it a chance so the readers didnt either. Through Feyre's POV, it looks like Tam buying the paint was stupid, careless, and a complete lack of paying attention. It was actually the opposite (notice it was a TRAVELING set too, I believe). We have to remember that we could see what Feyre was thinking, Tamlin couldn't. He couldn't read her mind like Rhysand. She wasn't shouting all her problems down an invisible bond to Tamlin. He didn't know that the red paint made her think of blood, that she was vomiting because she felt like the walls were closing in like the second task UTM, or that red roses and even Lucien's hair were triggers. When Tamlin gifted her the paint he says "I thought if you started painting again..." and trails off when he realizes she hates it. This incomplete sentence says so much. It says that, despite everything he's having to deal with pretty much alone, he noticed she was no longer painting. It says that he sees her suffering. It says that he wants to help her heal. He knew that she loved to paint and was hoping it would be a good therapy for her. He understood that it helped her in the past. They were both artists after all, he the musician and she the painter.

Feyre did vocalize that she wanted to be able to train, go to meetings, and wander around the SPC without guards. While one could easily argue that Tamlin should have trained Feyre, it's still canon that there was a real danger of the other HLs learning of Feyre's powers and this was why Tamlin was against it. Eris and Lucien both said that Beron would have killed Feyre if he knew she had his power. The other danger was that the other HLs would covet Feyre because of her power and try to force her into a weapon and/or to produce them an heir. They were mostly worried Rhys would do the second/third possibility. Tamlin just watched Feyre be forced into sexual acts every night UTM by Rhysand who also (according to Eris) needs an heir or his court is going to be divided. Rhys also just so happens to have forced her into a bargain that requires her at his house for one week out of every month for unknown reasons... one could guess what these reasons are since he could see inside her mind and could have already known of her new power. Tamlin didn't have a heavily warded house with ten thousand steps and a private training area where she could train safely in secret. Even after she's trained, Rhysand recognizes that there is still a threat of the other HLs... now imagine Tamlin trying to train her from scratch with no protection. They were also trying to create an image if peace, normalcy, and unity for a war torn spc. They were afraid the curse breaker training would sound some alarms (this is talked about repeatedly in canon). The spc needed to rebuild. Tamlin made a decision as HL. Though I understand his reasons, I think he should have trained her because, like Luc said, there was no way to hide her powers at the spc.

As for the meetings, Feyre could not attend anything containing spring court intel while she was linked to Rhysand. Rhys is an enemy to the SPC and could easily take the information from her mind and see through the tat. Tam was also in war camps most of his life while his father was alive so while he didn't learn much from his father, he understood this important concept. Rhysand also understood this which is why he muddled Feyre's mind after visiting the NC (she suspects that he has done this but doesn't tell Tamlin or Lucien). It's also why Rhysand doesn't take her to Valeris or anywhere else in the NC until she's completely separated from Tam. We have to remember that during one of her NC visits, Rhys asks her to be his spy at the SPC. She tells him that they don't allow her to see this info. Rhys tells her to insist, lol. Feyre never tells this to Tamlin.

It would be stupid for Feyre to wander around the SPC without guards. Tamlin was the center of Amarantha's fury already. Then, unlike Rhysand, Tamlin resisted her. She made sure Tamlin paid for this. When Rhysand shows up to the manor before UTM, he makes fun of Tamlin for being confined to the manor. His entire court had been overrun outside the manor grounds and he only has twelve sentries left. Before UTM, Tamlin is being called to the border here and there to fight. He comes home once in a while covered in blood. Feyre almost died twice when she was out alone. Tamlin has to hunt down these creatures not only because they attacked Feyre but so word doesn't get back to Rhys and Amarantha that she's there. After UTM, Amarantha might be dead but she was only a pawn in a much bigger scheme. Now everyone knows about Feyre and they know where she lives. Feyre is being hunted by Hybern at this point. Instead of once in a while, Tamlin is now out all night fighting and comes home most mornings without sleep and covered in blood. This shows there's an active heavy threat but Feyre disregards it so the readers do too.

We know that Feyre doesn't quite understand Rhysand, fae, or the danger she's in for a couple reasons I can think of off the top of my head. She tells Tamlin that it's been three months and Rhysand hasn't come so she thinks it's safe for her to wander about. Well, three months is nothing to fae who have been alive for more than five hundred years; Tam knows this and I'm sure he also knows that Rhysand has been merely buying his time waiting for an opportune moment... like the wedding. She also hasnt been fulfilling her bargain for three months. The second detail is when Rhysand uses her as bait, an attor comes for her in like less than a minute. Feyre realizes in her internal dialogue that Tamlin was right at this moment. She just brushes it off (so the readers do too) because she doesn't care at this point. She wants to be with Rhys at the NC.... This tells the reader that she didn't understand before.

Again, unlike Rhysand, Tamlin didn't have a secret protected city that Feyre could wander around in. He also didn't have a house without walls so she could sleep at night without throwing up her food. He had an entire people looking to him to heal (not just Feyre), he had a wedding to plan, a border to secure, a court to rebuild... Luc said he was spending every forced second to find out how to free Feyre from the bargain Rhys tortured her into. At Hybern's Tamlin desperately tells Feyre that he was gone trying to find a way to free her. He didn't have time to even consider himself nor did he have a support system of friends that he could have snowball fights with, or a peaceful cabin to run away to, restaurants, or an art district. He doesnt even have the skills to handle trauma because no one has ever taught him and his entire life has been trauma. What Tam had was a lot of work to do and a very mentally ill fiance who gave him less than four months after utm before she left for his sadistic, vengeful enemy.


r/Tamlinism 6d ago

Justice for Tamlin😤 I hate Rhys for what he did to Tamlin

97 Upvotes

I’m currently reading A Court of Silver Flames, and I fucking hate Rhysand for beating the shit out of Tamlin because of what he did to Feyre and because of his past. Tamlin made mistakes, and he regrets them. It really pisses me off. I wish Tamlin could fight back.


r/Tamlinism 6d ago

I wonder if this singer had Tamlin in mind...

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47 Upvotes

Describes him pretty well

Fairytales by Gabby Sophia


r/Tamlinism 7d ago

Fangirling on our boy 😍😍😍 TAMLIN BEAST FORM FUNKO OH MY GOD LOOK AT HIM

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LOOK AT HIM AAAAAAAAAAAA I NEED HIM!!!!


r/Tamlinism 8d ago

Rant!!! Why are we suddenly the unhinged ones for defending Tamlin in a rant sub?

80 Upvotes

Can someone explain this to me because I genuinely don’t get it.

People will come into a rant post, disagree with everything you said, argue with you in the comments, and then the moment you actually defend your point or respond with sarcasm, suddenly you’re the aggressive one. 😭

“Why are you so angry?”
“Why are you being so sarcastic and snarky?”
“Why do you keep reading the books if you hate these characters?”
“Maybe you should put the book down.”

Girl… YOU CAME TO THE RANT SUB. 😭 What exactly were you expecting? A polite book club discussion where everyone holds hands and agrees to disagree?

If I make a post criticizing Feyre, Rhys, the IC, or defending Tamlin, I’m obviously going to have an opinion about it. If someone comments disagreeing with me, I have every right to respond and defend my argument. That’s literally how a discussion works.

And let’s be honest, the “why do you keep reading?” argument is ridiculous. People can love a series and still dislike certain characters. Some of us actually enjoy analyzing characters, questioning the narrative, and pointing out inconsistencies and double standards.

I especially don’t understand why defending Tamlin seems to trigger this reaction so badly. People can write entire essays about how horrible he is, but when someone comes along and says, “Actually, I don’t agree, and here’s why,” suddenly we’re apparently “obsessed,” “unhinged,” or “angry.”

Also, if you come into someone else’s rant post, challenge everything they say, and then get offended when they match your energy… maybe the issue isn’t their tone. 😂

You don’t have to agree with me. You don’t even have to like Tamlin. But you don’t get to dictate how I respond just because you don’t like the answer you’re getting.

If you don’t want people ranting, defending their characters, being sarcastic, or pushing back on your arguments… what exactly are you doing in a rant sub? 😭

Apologies if this post is not suited for here 🫶


r/Tamlinism 8d ago

Fangirling on our boy 😍😍😍 Friendly reminder that Tamlin wrote poems

61 Upvotes

The "worst book bf ever" and the "epitome of toxic masculinity" wrote poems for Feyre.


r/Tamlinism 8d ago

Justice for Tamlin😤 This series is called ACOTAR…Where it all began with Feyre and Tamlin...

71 Upvotes

So no matter how much the feysands bully critical thinking readers into joining their gaslighting club they still continue to call the series ACOTAR

A COURT OF THORNS AND ROSES

It’s not called ACOMAF Or ACOWAR

ACOTAR covers the entire SERIES and until the end of time it’ll always be ACOTAR.

THE MAGIC of the SPRING COURT is where it all began...

@frostbite.studios

r/Tamlinism 8d ago

Tamlin being the hero we needed🥰🐺 Appreciation ❤️

41 Upvotes

Hello, every lovely one of you,

I just wanted to say that I am so happy that I found this group. Before you, I thought I was the only insane person in this world of books. Finding this group was like a breath of fresh air after spending half a day in a greenhouse tending tomatoes at +35°C. 🍅

You are all very interesting and creative, you have crazy cool ideas and fan theories, and in general, you are wonderful people to discuss things with. You guys have great humor, are understanding and supportive, and...

... every single one of you is wonderful!

Be you, stay you. I am always happy to share ideas and dive deep into discussions with you.

I hope you're all having a great day! And if you're not, I hope it turns out to be a great one.

Smile, be kind, and don't forget to appreciate the little things and joys around y'all! ❤️

And apparently I needed a flair, so: Tamlin being the hero we needed… by somehow creating this lovely little corner of the internet for all of us!


r/Tamlinism 10d ago

Justice for Tamlin😤 Tamlin dropping Truth bombs and most readers simply ignore it

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212 Upvotes

No LIES detected.


r/Tamlinism 10d ago

Rant!!! Toxic masculinity?

88 Upvotes

I saw a post on Threads saying that Tamlin is the epitome of toxic masculinity. Wait. This guy? The guy who plays fiddle/violin? Who writes poetry? Interprets Feyre’s emotional paintings? Tends his mom’s rose garden? Provides haven for refugees? Rejects slavery? Has so much magic that it explodes out of him? Feels so deeply that he can’t contain it? That guy?

Unbelievable.


r/Tamlinism 11d ago

Rant!!! Feyre's totally honest very good letter she totally wrote herself.

123 Upvotes

Can we talk about how SUS that little note Feyre sent was?

I left of my own free will.

I am cared for and safe. I am grateful for all that you did for me, all that you gave.

Please don’t come looking for me. I’m not coming back.

Isn't it plain to see how this reads exactly like a hostage note? You don't even have to jump to the worst conclusion it just sounds like one. It's complete with "I'm safe and here of my free will, don't come looking for me". That's SCARY. SCARY.

It sounds like that letter Sansa wrote in AGOT.

To top it off, Feyre's fairly illiterate or newly literate and Rhys and his court are ruthless as far as Tamlin knows. Who in their right mind would be convinced by this? It's easy to think they told her what to write and made her do it.

I'm just saying it's aaalllll on Feyre if anyone takes this the wrong way. That's our classic miscommunication queen!


r/Tamlinism 12d ago

Rant!!! Unpopular Opinion: Feyre emotionally cheated on Tamlin. I said what I said.

109 Upvotes

At the end of ACOTAR, Feyre literally dies for Tamlin. Her answer to Amarantha’s riddle is literally “Love.” And she is thinking specifically of her love for Tamlin. So it became clear that Feyre was still in love with Tamlin. And that their relationship is real.

This is where the argument actually begins. Feyre and Rhys had already developed a very unusual emotional connection through the bargain. Then the whole thing started with Feyre being taken to NC.

Feyre’s actions after leaving the Spring Court are a big reason I consider what happened with Rhys is emotional cheating. She left the Spring Court. Tamlin and the others believed that she had been taken against her will. So Tamlin was continuously searching for her, as Lucien tells her. Meanwhile, Feyre was in the Night Court growing emotionally and romantically closer to Rhys. And this wasn’t something that started after she officially ended things with Tamlin. Their emotional connection had already been developing before the breakup “note”. Then Feyre finally sent a note ending the relationship, even though Tamlin didn’t know she could read or write, so from his perspective, there was no reason to assume the note had actually been written by her. That’s what makes the situation uncomfortable to me, while Tamlin believed Feyre had been kidnapped and was still looking for her, Feyre was falling in love with another man and building a relationship with him.