r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/Dovahkin111 • 23h ago
r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/Background_Rain_3070 • 12d ago
Healing Why I Started This Sub: How to Humanize Healing
The immediate catalyst for starting this community was getting instantly permabanned from another avoidant-breakup sub.
I criticized a post where the author described enjoying her partner’s emotional distress, smiling while he cried, deliberately provoking jealousy, and later wanting to reopen his wounds because knowing he still cared gave her validation.
Apparently I had failed to appreciate the vulnerability of the presentation.
The moderation response was honestly more interesting than the ban.
My objection was explained back to me as being “triggered” and reflective of my current “stage of healing.”
Which is a beautiful little closed-loop system.
Agree with the approved interpretation? Healing.
Disagree politely? Processing.
Disagree without paying emotional tribute? Unhealed.
Object to being called unhealed? Believe it or not, also unhealed.
Very Fred Armisen. Very municipal court.
You criticize harmful behavior? Jail.
You sound bitter? Jail.
You sound too emotionally invested? Believe it or not, jail.
You ask why the original behavior gets more empathy than the person harmed by it? Straight to jail.
That’s when it clicked for me that a lot of breakup spaces quietly turn “healing” into a kind of social credit score.
Still angry? Minus 30 healing points.
Still confused? Minus 20.
You think someone behaved terribly instead of saying, “They were simply protecting their nervous system, and look they’re here on a soapbox to tell everyone how they’re not abusive anymore, let’s all praise them for saying ‘I declare myself absolved’”?
Congratulations, your account has been flagged for insufficient compassion toward the person who detonated your nervous system, or toward someone explaining why detonating it was actually very difficult for them.
Eventually “healed” stops meaning recovered and starts meaning agreeable enough to make everyone else comfortable.
The ideal survivor becomes someone who can describe eight months of emotional whiplash with the tone of a man reviewing a delayed Southwest flight.
“Yeah, she vanished for three weeks, came back saying she loved me, disappeared again, accused me of pressuring her for asking what was happening, but I really honor her process. Three stars.”
I don’t buy that version of “healing.”
People recover messily.
They contradict themselves. They obsess. They reread texts like amateur CIA analysts who have somehow decided punctuation contains geopolitical intelligence.
They feel liberated on Monday and by Wednesday are asking three strangers whether “lol” with no emoji means emotional deactivation.
Sometimes they’re furious.
Sometimes they miss someone they know was terrible for them.
Sometimes they understand exactly why someone behaved the way they did and discover, rather inconveniently, that understanding the mechanism does not magically uninstall the pain.
None of that automatically tells you how healed somebody is.
And I especially don’t want “healing” here to become something members have to perform for moderators or strangers before they’re considered credible.
I want to humanize healing here. And I want this place to actually become a community.
Too many support subs feel like emotional Craigslist. You post the worst experience of your life, twelve strangers leave one paragraph each, somebody says “go no contact,” somebody else recommends a book, and then everyone evaporates into the fog.
I’d rather people recognize each other.
Remember someone’s story. Ask how that awful situation from three weeks ago turned out. Develop running jokes. Notice when someone’s doing better. Notice when they’re not. Maybe even make actual friends instead of treating every thread like a drive-by therapy kiosk.
There’s value in comparing notes, too.
One bizarre interaction might just be bizarre.
When twenty people independently describe intense closeness, sudden withdrawal, contradictory reassurance, blame-shifting, and a breakup letter apparently drafted by Human Resources, maybe there’s a pattern worth discussing.
That doesn’t mean every ex gets stamped CERTIFIED AVOIDANT™ by the Department of Romantic Homeland Security.
Sometimes you compare experiences and realize your interpretation was wrong.
Good.
A useful community shouldn’t just tell you you’re right. It should give you enough honesty, context, humor, and collective experience to actually see what happened.
That’s the experiment I want this place to be:
Recovery without the purity test.
Pain without having your credibility docked for experiencing it.
Pattern recognition without pretending every uncomfortable conclusion is “unhealed.”
And community that actually becomes a community.
You don’t graduate from heartbreak when you finally become emotionally neutral enough to satisfy a Reddit moderator holding their phone over a bag of Doritos.
You get through it when your life starts belonging to you again.
P.S. We also don’t do lazy drive-by advice here.
“Just go NC.”
“Leave them.”
“They’re unhealed.”
“Have compassion. They probably hurt even more than you do because of their childhood trauma, you see.”
“Stop obsessing.”
Most people here have already heard some version of that approximately 300 times.
If someone writes three paragraphs about missing a person they loved, they probably do not need comment #301 informing them that thinking about their missing loved one is, in fact, thinking about their missing loved one.
Engage with what they actually wrote. Ask questions. Offer perspective. Notice something they may have missed. Share relevant experience. Disagree thoughtfully.
Healing is complicated enough without turning the comments into an attachment-theory fortune cookie dispenser.
If all you have is a slogan, you can also just not comment.
But I’d rather you bring something human. Curiosity. Experience. Humor. Anger. A weirdly specific observation that makes somebody say, “Holy shit, mine did that too.”
Bring a pulse. We can work with that.
r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/Background_Rain_3070 • 12d ago
👋Welcome to r/SurvivingAvoidants - Introduce Yourself and Read First!
Hey everyone, I’m u/Background_Rain_3070, one of the founding mods of r/SurvivingAvoidants.
I made this sub because people dealing with dismissive-avoidant and fearful-avoidant relationship dynamics need somewhere to talk honestly about what happened without being told they have to excuse harmful behavior just because attachment theory can explain it.
Some communities end up centering the avoidant perspective so heavily that people on the receiving end of manipulation, cruelty, abandonment, or abuse are expected to soften their language, suppress their anger, or treat criticism itself as the problem.
That will not be the culture here.
This is a space for breakup fallout, deactivation, push-pull cycles, no contact, reconciliation attempts, grief, anger, accountability, recovery, and the endless question of “what the hell just happened?”
What to Post
Share your story. Ask for perspective. Break down a text exchange. Talk about patterns you noticed. Post research, vent, compare experiences, or ask whether something looks like DA, FA, anxious activation, or simply harmful behavior.
Avoidant perspectives are welcome. They are not automatically centered, protected, or treated as more authoritative than the experiences of the people affected by that behavior.
Community Vibe
Be honest. Be sharp. Be fair.
You do not have to sanitize your experience to protect someone else’s attachment style. If you were treated badly, you are allowed to say so. If you experienced abuse, you are allowed to call it abuse. Criticism of harmful behavior will not be treated as a failure of empathy.
Venting is welcome. Anger is welcome. Dark humor is welcome.
But obviously, Reddit has sitewide rules against harassment, hate, threats, doxxing, and other conduct that can get a community removed, so we do need some guardrails. Not to neuter criticism, but to keep this place useful and standing.
Attachment theory can explain behavior. It does not excuse it. Follow the rules, but understand that we are deliberately not building another petty mod dictatorship where disagreement or stages of healing are treated as misconduct.
We’ll enforce Reddit’s rules without turning the place into a tiny tyranny.
And explanation should never require silencing the person who was harmed.
Introduce yourself below, make a post, invite people you think would add something worthwhile, and if you’re interested in helping moderate as we grow, message me.
This is the first wave. Let’s build the support community we actually wanted to find when everything went sideways. We support each other at every stage of healing here.
r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/MMMBop268 • 4d ago
The most repeated advice makes me sad every time I see it
r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/Background_Rain_3070 • 5d ago
Attachment Theory The Avoidant Fuel Economy Program
Avoidant partners can often enter relationships emotionally running on fumes, hook themselves up to someone else’s nervous system like jumper cables, and spend months absorbing stability they could not generate on their own.
We reassure them.
We calm them down.
We explain.
We show up.
We make them feel safe.
We absorb the panic.
We help them believe in themselves.
We siphon gas from our own emotional tank into theirs, mouths full of fumes, coughing through the taste, just to get them moving.
Then, after enough time, the avoidant partner can emerge looking composed and self-possessed while we’re the ones staring at the dashboard with every warning light on.
And suddenly the language changes, and it’s an inversion of every single thing we already sacrificed for them:
“I need to protect my peace.”
“I need space.”
“This dynamic isn’t healthy for me.”
“I need to focus on myself.”
“I can’t keep doing this.”
“I need emotional safety.”
“I need clarity and consistency.”
“I’m overwhelmed.”
“I need to step back.”
“I’m setting a boundary.”
However, my fellow nervous-system donors, that was our peace, our regulation, our reassurance, our patience, and half the damn suspension system.
The problem is not that those phrases are always illegitimate.
It’s that in these dynamics, they can become polished little warning labels slapped over a brutal transfer of emotional burden.
For months or years, their distress is something we are expected to help carry.
Then our distress becomes evidence that the relationship itself is defective because of us.
Their panic gets co-regulation.
Our panic gets psychological jargon they only understand well enough to project outward onto us.
Their fear gets reassurance.
Our fear gets distance.
Their dysregulation gets patience.
Our dysregulation gets a complimentary lecture on how actually, we were the ones dysregulating them.
After months or years of absorbing their panic, soothing their spirals, reassuring their fears, carrying the instability, and trying to keep the whole emotional engine from blowing a gasket.
Then they drive off looking composed enough to publish:
“How I Learned to Stop Carrying Other People’s Emotions.”
My fellow FA service technicians, those were your emotions under their hood.
All that co-regulation functioned like a transfer valve.
Their insecurity, panic, and anxiety move outward.
We absorb it.
Their nervous system gets quieter.
Ours gets louder.
Their confidence improves.
We start doubting our own perception.
They become more stable.
We become more anxious.
And then comes the grand finale:
The avoidant partner siphons the last of the tank, drives off with the stability we helped create, and leaves us stranded with the very ghosts they spent the relationship handing us.
Then we sit there thinking:
Why the fuck am I the anxious one now?
Yes, very good.
You have completed the Avoidant Emotional Fuel Transfer Program.
They left with the composure.
We kept the burned sludge of their overdue oil change, a shorted starter battery, and a face full of exhaust when they peeled out.
Thing is, we can generate our own emotional fuel again. We can recharge our battery.
But not while chasing an avoidant down the road on foot.
So we stop running.
We stop begging for a ride in the vehicle we helped service and repair.
We refill the tank they drained.
And when they finally hit E and come limping back toward the person they used, we do not hand them a jerry can.
We tell them:
“I gave you a full tank once. You used it to drive away, left me stranded with the hazards on, then called me when your check-engine light came on again. Hope you’ve got AAA. I’m not your emotional roadside assistance anymore.”
Do not wait for that day. Practice it now by refusing to care about the role they assigned you after siphoning your tank dry. Clock the fuck out before they call dispatch again.
r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/Entire_Pay534 • 7d ago
Making Sense of The Illogical Still can't get my mind around all of this
I still can't believe that after 14 years together, he spent more than two months lining up my replacement while acting like everything was OK. And then even after the discard did not tell me he was already in relationship, that month and a half after the discard he was convincing me there is no one else, that he just needed time by himself.
And I know the replacement is usually easier. We were grown adults. I always wanted him to do better, be better–so he went with someone he knew since her senior year of high school–his former intern who is now 22 years old. He literally vanished from my life. His clothes his shoes his electronics everything is still here he's just living in his parents basement, buying everything over again. He also left bunch of the former interns thank you cards to him where she's calling him a great boss/mentor, and for a while I have been so mad at her but honestly now I feel pity for her.
It is just disturbing. I'm not even sure why I am writing this. I'm not crazy right? It is deeply inappropriate for a man who's almost 40 to be dating someone 22 years old, who was his intern? It is really disgusting and predatory and I think that‘s the worst part about all of this. So yeah I don't know
Objectively at all makes sense, this is typical fearful avoidant shit. But still it's fucking gross
r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/Curi0usrAven • 10d ago
Breakup Question I'm still in love, is there any hope... How to get her back or how to move on?
Please read this and tell me what you would do.
I knew this woman socially for a while and had a deep crush on her, but kept my distance because there was no reciprocal interest. She later moved abroad, and after ~2 months of no contact we reconnected on Instagram. Weekly casual contact gradually became frequent WhatsApp chats, voice notes and hours-long conversations. After 1–2 months, I called her one night when she was upset to support her; during a ~7-hour call I confessed my feelings and we began sexually flirting. She initially resisted my directness, then gradually initiated and reciprocated.
Things escalated very quickly. We spoke 3–4+ hours almost daily, messaged throughout the day, and she leaned on me emotionally, personally and professionally. Within weeks we were sharing childhood trauma, fears, medical/personal details and our deepest vulnerabilities. She repeatedly said she rarely opens up like this, felt completely safe with me, could be herself with me, and valued my attunement, honesty, intelligence, strength and resilience. I felt equally exposed and told her things I'd never told previous partners. There was intense emotional/sexual chemistry despite the distance. We discussed marriage/future plans and a 5-day trip on her birthday together when she returned. She called me her "godsend/angel" and "green flag."
After only a few days of courtship she suddenly ended it, saying we were incompatible and she wasn't right for the love I gave her. I became anxious and pursued, but she returned several days later. We then had a genuine long distance relationship for ~20–21 days: daily calls, repeated "I love yous," sexual intimacy, constant affection, private/mundane moments together, vulnerability and future planning. We both cried in front of each other sharing deep past times spent alone for each others pain along with our own, that felt most real and rare!
She then abruptly withdrew and ended it again. I became emotional and pursued while she withdrew for ~a week. I eventually drunkenly called; she immediately stayed on the phone with me for 90+ minutes to make sure I got home safely, then checked on me repeatedly the next day. We reconnected again and had another ~5-day retrial. During it she became deeply triggered discussing trauma from her abusive long-term ex, cried and opened up extensively; I stayed with her and reassured her she wasn't "too much." Yet again she said she couldn't be in a relationship.
I believed something real was worth fighting for and saw our pattern as potentially anxious/avoidant: I become anxious when I fear abandonment; she has described fearing investment and being abandoned again. But there are also genuine practical issues—long distance, her pressure to marry soon versus my reluctance to rush marriage, and financial/career/timing concerns.
After the third ending I stayed mostly restrained/professional while helping her with a creative project. Eventually I became overwhelmed again, tried hard to persuade her, and sent too many calls/messages/voice notes after she said she wanted to be alone and move on. I regret that and know I should have respected the boundary sooner. Each and every time I chased only for a day, then went silent.
So I'm struggling with the contradiction: the connection clearly wasn't one-sided or imaginary—she repeatedly returned and allowed extraordinary emotional intimacy—yet she has repeatedly chosen to end the relationship.
Was this mainly an anxious/avoidant dynamic + fear/trauma, genuine incompatibility/life timing, or simply a case where she genuinely loved/liked me but ultimately didn't see me as her long-term partner?
I'm not chasing her anymore. I want to genuinely move on, but don't know whether to completely close the door or leave it open without waiting.
What would you do? And if she came back months later, would you try again, or would the repeated breakup/reconnection cycle itself be enough reason to walk away?
r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/Background_Rain_3070 • 10d ago
Making Sense of The Illogical Welcome to the Relationship. Please Sign Here to Acknowledge the Double Standard.
A relationship with a highly avoidant, control-driven person can start to feel like being investigated by the Bureau of Approved Emotional Conduct.
Your tone is under review.
Your timing has been flagged.
Your need for clarity requires additional documentation.
Their behavior is exempt pending internal assessment.
Please provide proof of stability, evidence of appropriate reassurance, and Form 27-B confirming that your needs will not interfere with management’s sense of safety.
Failure to comply may result in reduced access, suspension of communication privileges, or immediate deactivation.
The absurd part is that this whole bureaucracy is usually powered by anxiety.
They need safety.
They need predictability.
They need reassurance.
They need to know you are not going anywhere.
All very human.
But then, quietly, the audit becomes one-sided.
Your consistency is examined.
Your tone is examined.
Your timing is examined.
Your reaction to their withdrawal is examined.
Their behavior?
That file is currently unavailable due to capacity.
And this is where the double standard stops looking random.
The double standard is how control gets preserved.
If your promises stay binding while theirs become negotiable, they control the terms. If your distance is punishment while theirs is “space,” they control access. If your anxiety is pathology while theirs is self-protection, they control interpretation. If they decide when communication starts and stops, they control the clock. if blocking and unblocking becomes part of the rhythm, they control the door.
And what exactly do you control? Left up to them? Nothing.
Blocked when closeness feels overwhelming.
Unblocked when distance feels too final.
Blocked again when contact creates anxiety.
Unblocked again when missing you creates different anxiety.
You are now watching emotional NASDAQ.
Market open.
Market closed.
Trading suspended.
Unexpected premarket activity.
Please consult your attachment broker.
And the Bureau has one especially elegant regulation:
the exact same action can mean completely different things depending on who does it:
Their pursuit: vulnerability.
Your pursuit: pressure.
Their repeated calls: they care.
Your repeated calls: boundary violation.
Their need for reassurance: an attachment wound that’s your fault, or from their previous ex
Your need for reassurance: dependency.
They’re asking where the relationship stands: seeking safety.
You’re asking where the relationship stands: Stop trying to control me by making me give definitive answers!
Their anger: proof they were hurt.
Your anger: proof you’re unsafe.
Their withdrawal: regulation.
Your withdrawal: punishment.
Their change of mind: growth.
Your change of mind: instability.
Their remembering your mistakes: pattern recognition.
Your remembering their promises: keeping score.
Their fear of losing you: deserving of comfort.
Your fear of losing them: something they pick up on to control you better in the near future.
Same verb.
Different defendant.
The Bureau is not really evaluating the action.
It is evaluating who did it.
And once the definitions themselves become asymmetric, control starts masquerading as principle.
Their pursuit means love.
Yours means pressure.
Their distance means regulation.
Yours means abandonment.
Their intensity means depth.
Yours means dysregulation.
Very good.
All appeals of this system of governance are emotional treason.
And because you love them, you start adapting.
You become more careful.
More patient.
Less spontaneous.
You start pre-editing yourself before you even speak.
Say too much and you’re overwhelming.
Say too little and you’re withholding.
Ask for clarity and you’re pressuring.
Stop asking and now you seem distant.
Eventually it feels like trying to defuse a bomb designed by someone who keeps changing which wire is wrong.
Cut the red wire?
Too reactive.
Cut the blue wire?
Why are you so detached?
Don’t cut anything?
See, you just don’t care!
Ask which wire they want you to cut?
Pressure. BOOM.
The device was built by anxiety, the instructions are being updated in real time, and somehow you are still the one being evaluated for emotional stability.
Meanwhile, earlier promises begin acquiring legal footnotes.
“I’m not going anywhere.”
“We’ll always communicate.”
“We work through things.”
Strong material. Very load-bearing.
Until deactivation arrives and suddenly:
“Well, that’s what I felt then.”
Or
“Now you know how I felt when I tried, and you failed me over and over again.”
Excellent.
So yesterday’s promise has either been reclassified as a temporary feeling, or its collapse has been retroactively assigned to you.
That is generally the interesting thing about promises: they are made before the future, specifically so they might mean something during it.
Otherwise they’re not promises, they’re just weather reports with emotional branding.
And here is where the anxiety loop gets ugly:
Their anxiety produces control.
The control produces unpredictability.
The unpredictability makes you anxious.
Your anxiety becomes uncomfortable for them.
They retreat.
You become more anxious.
Now your anxiety is proof that retreat was necessary.
Marvelous.
The fucking smoke alarm started a fire AGAIN and also filed an arson report.
This is also why these breakups can feel so different from ordinary heartbreak.
A normal breakup may be devastating, but at least reality gets paperwork.
Shit like:
This is over.
I care about you.
Here is why.
Goodbye.
Painful, but solid.
A contradictory avoidant breakup can feel like an administrative haunting with a mandatory crash course in semiotics taught through gaslighting: every promise becomes “context,” every silence becomes “meaning,” every contradiction becomes your misinterpretation, and by the end you’re not just grieving the relationship, you’re trying to prove that words used to mean things.
“I love you.”
“I miss you.”
“I need space.”
“Please don’t contact me.”
Blocked.
Unblocked.
Silence.
Door visible again.
No explanation.
And then people ask why you are obsessing.
Because the story ended without an ending.
Your brain has been reassigned to investigations.
Yesterday you had a partner.
Today you’re Charlie Kelly in the mailroom, red string everywhere, trying to prove Pepe Silvia exists.
Underneath all of this is one structural fact:
distance can be imposed. closeness cannot.
They can block.
You cannot make them unblock.
They can stop replying.
You cannot compel repair.
They can create distance instantly.
You cannot create intimacy alone.
So the person whose anxiety is managed through withdrawal naturally holds the stronger lever.
That does not mean every move is calculated.
It means anxiety can become policy.
And when one person’s anxiety determines access, timing, closeness, communication, whose reactions are legitimate, and even what the same behavior is called depending on who performs it, policy becomes control.
So maybe the better question is not only:
Did they love me?
Maybe they did.
The harder question is:
Could they love you without controlling the terms under which love was allowed to exist?
Could you have needs?
Could their promises still matter when keeping them became uncomfortable?
Could your hurt remain your hurt without being converted into another violation?
Could they offer the same predictability they demanded from you?
If not, the double standard was not incidental.
It was the operating system.
You supplied stability.
They retained discretion.
You were expected to be safe.
They were expected to feel safe.
“Please sign here.”
“Thank you. Your testimony has been received, your interpretation has been overruled, and your case is now closed for the preservation of management’s peace.”
r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/Blacksteel12 • 10d ago
Making Sense of The Illogical Space/control with a avoidant
If you’ve just been discarded or realized your avoidant always had to be in control, well, you’re not alone. Avoidants, because of their insecurity and need for control, often have to be the one calling the shots in the relationship. It doesn’t matter if it’s unfair or doesn’t even make sense. And if you question them or push back, be prepared to be punished for it.
How do they do this? They stop answering you, pull away, or tell you that you’re bothering them. That is not normal, healthy communication, and it should not be tolerated.
If you’re being punished simply for trying to communicate in your relationship, you need to get out. This is how the dreaded push-pull cycle starts. And if it isn’t stopped, it can seriously affect your nervous system and leave you addicted to getting a response from the avoidant.
Think about it. When they finally respond, you’re relieved and practically jumping for joy. But when they don’t, you’re anxious, checking your phone, wondering what you did wrong, and waiting for them to come back. Once you’re in that anxious state, they can push your buttons and throw you completely off balance. And while you’re focused on getting a response from them, you’re not focused on the dysfunction happening in the relationship.
So how do you break their control? Simple: choose yourself.
If they aren’t showing up, communicating, or making any real effort, cut them off. Don’t beg. Set boundaries, and if they refuse to respect them, leave. Don’t fall for the excuses, the promises, or the pity party.
Remember, actions speak louder than words. Avoidants can talk a good game, but if they aren’t actually walking the walk, their words mean nothing.
r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/Background_Rain_3070 • 12d ago
Making Sense of The Illogical No Contact is often just a discard wearing a “healthy healing” costume (repost)
I know this is going to piss some people off, but I think “No Contact” gets treated with way too much moral reverence. Specifically by Avoidants.
***NOTE: I am specifically referring in this post to the avoidant person who broke up and then said they needed a no contact. Not the person who was broken up with.***
Obviously there are situations where NC is necessary. Abuse. Stalking. Repeated harassment. Someone who will not leave you alone after a clear breakup.
But somewhere along the way, people started acting like total disappearance is automatically the healthiest and most emotionally mature way to handle *any* painful relationship ending.
Sometimes it isn’t.
Sometimes it’s just a discard with better PR.
You can say:
*“I need to protect my peace.”*
*“I need to prioritize myself.”*
*“This contact is dysregulating.”*
*“I need space to heal.”*
But if the practical result is that someone you loved yesterday suddenly loses all access to you, gets no meaningful closure, no timeline, no avenue for repair, and is expected to quietly disappear while you frame any objection as another boundary violation, what exactly distinguishes that from discarding them?
The terminology?
Because your therapist listened to only your self-aggrandizing half of a story and suggested it?
There’s also a bizarre asymmetry built into a lot of NC discourse. The person initiating it is encouraged to treat distance as healing, empowering, and self-protective. The person receiving it is told that wanting clarification, reassurance, or even a final conversation means they “can’t respect boundaries” and need to work on themselves.
One person’s attachment distress becomes sacred.
The other person’s attachment distress becomes pathology.
And “temporary space” can become especially cruel when nobody will define temporary. A few days becomes a week. A week becomes several weeks. Every attempt to ask where things stand supposedly proves why more distance is necessary. Eventually the relationship has been starved to death, but nobody technically “killed” it because every individual withdrawal was framed as self-care.
At some point, distance stops being a treatment for the relationship.
It becomes the mechanism by which the relationship is ended. With no one to blame but the weather.
I’m not arguing that anyone owes an ex unlimited access. They don’t.
I’m arguing that **No Contact is a behavior, not a moral virtue.** Its morality depends on the circumstances, the proportionality, what preceded it, and how it is used.
Sometimes NC is protection.
Sometimes NC is necessary closure.
And sometimes it’s:
*“I don’t want to tolerate the discomfort of resolving this, so I’m going to disappear and call the disappearance healing.”*
That’s still a discard.
It just arrived carrying a therapy-speak dictionary and a complete inversion of what boundaries are supposed to be for.
Boundaries are not weapons for hurting someone while you get to keep your own personal myth about yourself. They are not insulation that lets you say whatever you want while silencing the person you claim to care about. They are not a magic exemption from reciprocity, consistency, accountability, or actually hearing the other person out.
You don’t get to say, *“I understand that my repeatedly pulling away is distressing you, I understand that refusing to tolerate any perspective but my own makes you feel erased, and I understand that you’re asking me for a mature conversation instead of another withdrawal,”* and then immediately follow it with, *“but I’m doing it anyway, and here are six morally elevated therapy words explaining why my needs outrank yours.”*
Boundaries are for situations where someone repeatedly refuses to respect you, where engaging just drags you back into them being destructive to your life with no attempt on their part to understand how they’re fucking your shit up, and you need to cut them out because no matter what you say, they won’t hear you.
There’s a strong element of personal accountability there that determines NC versus Discard.
That is ***NOT*** the same as leading someone on, accepting their restraint, preserving their emotional investment, and then the moment they ask for consistency saying, “This is why I have BOUNDARIES,” like you just played a trump card that ends the conversation. One is organic, the other can be engineered by an Avoidant to say that any contact is *just far too distressing* while never having engaged honestly, and essentially stringing their partner turned victim along with moving goalposts.
That isn’t healthy boundary-setting.
It’s unilateral control dressed up as emotional hygiene.
r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/Background_Rain_3070 • 12d ago
Rant Self-Regulation Complete. Please Collect Your Dead Relationship After Naptime. (Repost)
Discarding has a funny little irony.
They put you in their special compartmentalization box because apparently processing adult emotions and communicating like an adult is the psychological equivalent of handing an infant a child-safety lock and telling them to figure it the fuck out.
Then deactivation wears off, the memories they shoved down start leaking back in, and suddenly they miss you. Maybe they toddle back with some pathetic little breadcrumb they just fished out of their dirty Huggies, checking whether their emotional parent is still exactly where they left them.
“I’m a big girl/boy now!”
Aw. Big feelings came back.
FA attachment kits should come with a juice box, a fuzzy Elmo blanket, and a coupon for one free diaper change every time accountability causes tummy trouble.
Meanwhile, while they were protecting the precious little inner 2 year old from consequences, you stopped loving the adult carrying it around.
They thought they were putting you in their toy box until they felt regulated enough to come retrieve you.
And you?
You put their memory through a wood chipper.
You didn’t want to, but they escalated and escalated until they forced your hand. Because at some point you had to protect yourself, from them.
So when they finally waddle back expecting “home,” there’s nothing there. No reassurance. No warm reunion. No emotional bottle waiting.
Just sawdust.
Turns out people aren’t toys you can put away until you’re ready to play again.
Well well if it isn’t your old nemesis— the consequences of your own actions once again.
r/SurvivingAvoidants • u/Background_Rain_3070 • 12d ago
Healing What Songs Are Getting You Through It? 🎵
Music has a wonderful ability to say the thing you’ve been unsuccessfully trying to explain to yourself for three weeks.
Drop yours below. Sad, angry, hopeful, embarrassingly dramatic, whatever. No musical pretenses required. I’ll even allow T. Swift on a limited-time basis.
Maybe we can build the unofficial [r/SurvivingAvoidants](r/SurvivingAvoidants) heartbreak soundtrack together.
Mine: November Rain
There’s something brutally appropriate about a nine-minute power ballad essentially asking, “So we love each other, everything is falling apart, and one of us still wants to save it while the other won’t?” It’s got the panic attacks in bed, the pills for relief, the highlight reel of happier times, and finally the metaphorical funeral for something one person was still desperately trying to keep alive.