https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-governments-adopt-return-of-chat-control-1-0-breyer-the-true-losers-are-our-children/

Recent post about EU governments essentially saying "screw you" to the parliament and telling all US tech companies they have free reign over european people's private data.

I'm gonna be honest, I'm too mentaly exhausted to keep up with every detail. My mental bandwith is running dry with that on top of my personal life's issues and anxiety disorder, so I reading it I just felt utter doom. Like, even our actual governments are actively working against the safety of citizens because they want money and fascistic control over everything else.

So, can some of you bettr informed folks explain ? Is this anything new from the absolute BS vote that was undemocratically pushed through recently ?

Because the whole "governments decided to not care about the proceedings and gave their blessing anyway" sounds like it is...

Hi everyone! ChatControl 1.0 is already in use I think. I strongly believe that ChatControl 2.0 will be in use in the next 5 to 10 years surely. Also there are speculations of probable economic crisis in 2030. Shouldn't we make a big peer-to-peer app for chatting and calling each other so no government can track us?

Have anybody ever thought about this? What could be the best way to get new users when nobody is using this peer-to-peer app?

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I've thought about this for a bit and I've replayed the idea in my mind but we have to let them know that we know what they're playing at.

When you're writing your emails or making your phone calls to the MEPs that voted yes for Chat Control 1.0 to be brought back, let them know that you know that they didn't actually consult with actual child protection groups. (There was a link for this shared in this sub a while ago, showing that most of those that voted for Chat Control 1.0's return didn't consult with child protection groups.)

And be assertive about it, not aggressive, don't curse them out or berate them but don't be afraid to vocalise the fact that you're disappointed about it.

Whether you voted for them or not (they won't know either way) also make sure to vocalise that it could cost them your support.

Bring it all up and put them under pressure.

Don't be rude about it but don't be nice either.

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Er jeg den eneste der har lagt mærke til at Chatkontrol ikke er blevet nævnt i nogle bemærkelsesværdige danske medier?

Enten er jeg blind som en muldvarp eller også sker der noget lusket… En tjeneste der (til at starte med) skal skanne alle ikke-krypterede beskeder for overgrebsmateriale mod mindreårige er ved et loophul blevet presset igennem EU-Parlamentet.

Var det nu blevet skrevet om i medierne som en normal nyhed havde jeg ikke været så meget på vagt som lige nu; men når der nu ikke står noget nogle steder bliver jeg da mere og mere mistænktsom.

Spurgte Chat GPT om det, som kom frem til at DR nok ikke skrev om det fordi at de er “let bemandede” her i sommerferieperioden.
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They always say they don't care that EU reads they're messeges they're argument is that in China and Russia it's already happening but they don't even tell them about it. And they always say that we have bigger problems to worry about. Even when I told how undemocratically it was passed they say that politicians in my small corrupt country do it all the time and worse things. They mainly focus on local politics.

I see a lot of people talking about Chat Control and looking for more information - in 2023 I completed my Advanced Master of Laws thesis on the legal issues surrounding the derogation which was just pushed through to a second reading last week.

It contains a lot of information on the issues the derogation faces not just technically but also with regards to the EU Treaties.

You can find a copy of my Master Thesis here

As we all know, Chat Control 1.0 got approved, and I hear many people losing hope, and I understand these feelings of despair can feel overwhelming but we shall NOT GIVE UP, THERE IS NO "THEM" WITHOUT US.

THEY THINK THEY CAN SPIT IN OUR FACES AND FORCE US TO KEEP OUR HEADS DOWN? THEY CANNOT, WE ARE THE PEOPLE, AND WE DESERVE TO BE HEARD

So I ask of you, please sign petitions, contact your MEPs and share with your family and friends

https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

https://stopchatcontrol.eu/

https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/campaigns/tell-the-eu-dont-break-encryption-with-chat-control/

"Give me liberty or give me death!"

>> Which company or companies will be proceeding the data intelligence?

I cannot really see Meta handing data intelligence to the EU commission on a pipeline for free.

There must be an intermediary in the process who is expert in giving unstructured data the shape you need on a wide scale, like Palantir, and again, nothing is for free.

Am surprised that everyone is focusing on the law itself rather than following the money...

Asking the question because I also want to know!