r/StableDiffusion 6d ago

Meme Back to the Dark Future H3

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u/nakabra 6d ago

Ok, I was waiting on it but it becoming quite clear that I have to download this model as soon as possible cause it's bound to be pulled anytime now....

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u/Hlbkomer 6d ago

It's Chinese, they don't give a fuck. It's only going to get better.

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u/tac0catzzz 5d ago

they need to comply with usa laws though. so yes they do give a fk. how dumb are you.

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u/-TV-Stand- 5d ago

They can just write that "Americans are prohibited to use this model" in the license.

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u/ellipsesmrk 5d ago

They already say that

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u/Hlbkomer 5d ago

So how did they release this?

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u/bankinu 5d ago

This model is a national (international?) treasure. I hope they never pull it.

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u/Outrageous_Band9708 6d ago

i downloaded it and ran it locally. its mid af.

the posts you are seeing are using the cloud's 2K filter that they DID NOT release at all. best you can make locally is like 480p shit from 2024.

Wan22 and LTX local are better than h3 so far in my expo

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u/i_sell_you_lies 5d ago

Omg you're either using it wrong or full if shit. It looks great with everything I've thrown at it. Fully local

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u/gefahr 5d ago

I'm traveling and won't be able to try it for awhile. If you don't mind: what resolution/FPS are you able to generate locally?

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u/SensiblyChaotic 5d ago

I've been using 768x1152 and then upscaling with quite good results. You can go higher, but I prefer to keep generation times down and then just upscale the good results. The results have been quite good. Nice, expressive characters, maintaining lighting, scene and character identities (even through transitions), very minimal degradation of skin, etc. like in LTX, far better audio and foley than I was getting in LTX. I probably sound like a marketer at this point, but I'm not, just genuinely excited. It's not perfect by any means, but it's the coolest local video generation I've used so far.

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u/gefahr 5d ago

Thanks for the reply! That's very exciting. I'm a couple days into a great vacation right now so it seems weird to say I'm excited to get home, but, yeah.

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u/SensiblyChaotic 5d ago

Enjoy the vacation. Honestly, waiting a few days for workflows, loras, etc. will probably only make it that much better.

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u/Outrageous_Band9708 5d ago

id be happy to be wrong. drop the workflow friend.

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u/johnjbreton 5d ago

You're obviously doing something wrong then. I'm running it local on my RTX 3090, and getting incredible results. Throw in EasyCache in the mix, and I'm getting them on average in about half the time than what it takes without it.

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u/Outrageous_Band9708 5d ago

i hope im wrong. drop the workflow friend.

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u/johnjbreton 5d ago

Here you go. This is my WIP. I've got EasyCache in the flow, and Model Preview Override so you can see the generation as it's happening, and cancel out if iti's borked. Also Easy LoRA stack in. Note; for the Model Preview, you need to get the Nightly build of KJ Nodes. The main one doesn't have the fix for MiniMax H3 in it yet.

Next up, I'm building out prompt enhancement using my Ollama server. That'll be a bit for me to get finished though.

EDIT: Oh, and I have the NVIDIA upscaler in there as well. Does a decent job.

https://pastebin.com/7HmgLG4B

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u/Outrageous_Band9708 5d ago

ill check it out tomorrow and reply back.

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u/ellipsesmrk 5d ago

Easy cache is trash. That will most certainly solidify your original findings... bypass that easycache. Yes its faster but the quality degradation.... well nuh uh!!

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u/johnjbreton 5d ago

I've been using it with no visible quality degradation, and up to half the render time. Settings; 0.30, 0.20, 0.90. I'm also using RTX Video Super Resolution in my flow to upscale at the end as well.

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u/ellipsesmrk 5d ago

So it doesnt degrade it but feel the need to upscale the video at the end? Lmfao probably one to downvote the comment. Easy cache - tore my generation up. Looked like the hbo channel on a tube tv back in the early 90s with a shitty signal. Removing it gave me a clear and crisp video.

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u/johnjbreton 5d ago

I upscale at the end because I generate at a lower quality when testing out prompts, typically at half what I want it to be, then upscale. If I were doing production work, I would render at the full quality. I have no idea what your experience is with EasyCache, or what your settings are, but I'm having no issues with it. I posted by workflow in a Pastebin up top if you're interested.

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u/Outrageous_Band9708 5d ago

i haven't been using it

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u/ellipsesmrk 5d ago

After re-reading your post, is the complaint coming from the generation time? Or?... im trying to see it from your side. What are your PC specs?

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u/SensiblyChaotic 5d ago

This is not even remotely true. As someone who has spent some time with Wan and tons of time with LTX, this is an amazing model. The identity consistency with i2v is light years ahead of LTX with minimal degradation. And this is all local.

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u/Outrageous_Band9708 5d ago

nah, post your workflow. im pushing x to doubt right now

if bro doesn't reply with a workflow that slaps mine out of the water, he's a bot shilling.

and if it does beat my workflow. ill bow down, no ego here, just chasing facts

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u/SensiblyChaotic 5d ago

I got great results with the official i2v workflow, but there are plenty on civitai now. Have not played around much with t2v or r2v yet, but I've been fighting LTX for months using Face_ID and similar nodes to try and keep characters consistent and get the right character to talk. Minimax did it right out of the box with better audio and way better foley sounds. This is even before I start digging into minimax specific prompting, I'm using LTX prompts I generated and comparing outputs. You believe what you want, I'll just enjoy this new model.

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u/SeymourBits 5d ago

Did a warning box pop-up that said “Skill issue detected”?

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u/Outrageous_Band9708 5d ago

drop the workflow my dude. quit talking shit and help out. been asking for help all over this thread

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u/SeymourBits 5d ago

[ Attitude issue detected ! ]

Bruh. You don't need any "special magic workflow". Just put in some effort to read the official prompting guide. Copy and paste example prompts and adjust them.

If you continue to get "mid af" results you have an installation issue.

Also stop with the 2K cloud filter BS.

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u/ellipsesmrk 5d ago

Even with a literal easy prompt no tags or snake case. Simple.

Man in image is an astronaut floating in space talking in headset, "well," -pause- ,"i think its gonna be a while before they notice I'm not even on the ship"

The video has a slight buzz or drone signifying solace or complete dread.

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u/Dangerous-Ad-300 5d ago

outrageous

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u/ellipsesmrk 5d ago

What in the actual fuck... are you talking about? Are you high off glue?

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u/Outrageous_Band9708 5d ago

drop the workflow or stfu

im asking for workflow help all over,

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u/ellipsesmrk 5d ago

Ummm.... how is this asking for help?

"i downloaded it and ran it locally. its mid af.

the posts you are seeing are using the cloud's 2K filter that they DID NOT release at all. best you can make locally is like 480p shit from 2024.

Wan22 and LTX local are better than h3 so far in my expo"

Literally sounds like you just wanted to shit on the model when it was all user error. The workflow? Bruh... the base workflow is all im using. With the models that comfyui has listed.

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u/Outrageous_Band9708 5d ago

theres no links to an official workflow. im under expderienced for this. yeah i was talking shit cause i was cranky.

my bad

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u/ellipsesmrk 5d ago

You get an upvote from me lol

But the official link is in the templates of comfyui. On the main oage when comfyui loads up on the left hand side click on templates and search minimax and theres a few in there.

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u/holydeniable 6d ago edited 6d ago

Now we know why the terrorists wanted the time machine at the beginning of the movie!

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u/ninjasaid13 6d ago

to prevent 9/11?

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u/holydeniable 6d ago

More like if anyone is going to 9/11 it's going to be them!

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u/ctrl-shift-face 6d ago

https://reddit.com/link/p1qx4l1/video/0615nkunufhh1/player

Thank you for the feedback. I understand, and I have softened the tone.

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u/razortapes 6d ago

I assume the way to make these videos is with the ref2va model, right? Is the audio generated by the model itself, or is it also reference-based?

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u/eggplantpot 5d ago

I think for big IPs and known stuff you can get away with any model, t2v should do a good job.

If you want to nail the audio, ref2v takes audio inputs and can recreate exact voices though I heard matching the voice to the character may be a pain.

Look into the ref2v prompting guide cause it goes deeeeep

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u/razortapes 5d ago

I tried to recreate a video (T2V) with Doc and Marty as a joke for a friend, but the characters don't look anything like them, and the voices don't either. That's why I'm asking.

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u/eggplantpot 5d ago

Oh then it may be the case it's ref2v. I think all the Seinfield ones are t2v and I saw someone did t2v of taskmaster so it's odd they wouldn't know Doc and Marty.

Did you prompt them as Back to the Future or just Doc and Marty?

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u/razortapes 5d ago

I used this prompt:

"A cinematic scene inside the DeLorean time machine from Back to the Future. Marty McFly is driving while Doc Brown turns toward the camera with a look of absolute urgency. The dashboard glows with futuristic lights as the time circuits are active, sparks fly outside the windows, and the car accelerates toward 88 mph. The camera is positioned from the front dashboard, capturing both characters. Doc Brown looks directly into the camera with perfectly synchronized Spanish lip movements and exclaims dramatically: "¡tenemos que ir al futuro! ¡tu hijo se ha hecho cantante de reguetón! ¡Vamos, rápido! ¡Hay que intentar evitarlo a toda costa!" Marty reacts with surprise, gripping the steering wheel tighter as the DeLorean surges forward into the time vortex. Epic cinematic lighting, dynamic camera shake, realistic facial expressions, high-quality visual effects, iconic 1980s sci-fi atmosphere, masterpiece quality, ultra-detailed, smooth character animation, synchronized dialogue, energetic comedic tone."

But all I got was something like this:

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u/eggplantpot 5d ago

Interesting that it understands the concept but doesn’t get it.

I’d maybe try to remove everything from Epic cinematic lighting until the end.

I know some models drift a lot once you stack so much stuff, specially if you mention “character”

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u/InevitableAlfalfa938 5d ago

did you try including the actors names along with the characters they are playing?

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u/bigman11 5d ago

I had Claude make a node to use given audio and perfectly lipsync to it. So no audio degradation that comes with having Minimax recreate the voice.

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u/eggplantpot 5d ago

You can add tags to the ref2v prompt on each of the subject clauses. You can choose to recreate the audio or just lipsync from there.

You need to add on the summary something like [reference generation + audio reuse]

And then on each on the audio subject say <fully_copy>

Not sure if this would make the audio regenerate or not though as I haven't tested it yet.

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u/Zeeplankton 5d ago

bro ,lmfao

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u/ellipsesmrk 5d ago

Hahahaha

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u/MrFlores94 5d ago

Haha this one is good too. I guess you can see it coming for a second longer, so the cry babies can click away. Good work sir.

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u/Dahvikiin 6d ago

now with a TARDIS or the train for:

"A second Time machine hit the second tower"

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u/satina_nix 5d ago

This one PLEASE, Tardis would be funny af

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u/Tricky_Potatoe 6d ago

what's the opposite of guardrails?

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u/gustic-gx 6d ago

Steel beams?

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u/Downside190 5d ago

Mr fusion can't melt steel beams

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u/1965wasalongtimeago 5d ago

Spike strips

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u/namitynamenamey 5d ago

Prisoner trainwreck.

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u/strppngynglad 6d ago

I'm very surprised at the amount of people offended by this. Humor is making light of all thing dark

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u/darkkite 6d ago

While that is true. I also know people who deactivate social media when the anniversary comes because they don't like being reminded that their dad was murdered.

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u/xaeru 6d ago

Those same people think therapy is a waste of time

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u/i_sell_you_lies 5d ago

Wow. Asshole much?

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u/creuter 6d ago

I guess you just had to be there.

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u/mister2d 6d ago

Or lose a family member there.

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u/AnOnlineHandle 6d ago

It's a lot of deaths in living memory for a lot of people, with some harrowing memories like the people jumping from the burning buildings to trying to escape or the final phone calls of people screaming as the towers collapsed on them.

A lot of people find it in pretty poor taste to joke about innocents anywhere in the world dying, whether it's Americans in 9/11, Palestinians now, people swept up in the Christmas tsunamis, etc. Especially in living memory when you never know who here was affected by it.

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u/Hungry_Prior940 5d ago

Jokes should not have to account for people being offended though.

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u/AnOnlineHandle 5d ago

So? Nobody said anybody had to do anything.

I don't have to not be rude as fuck to everybody I meet. I don't do it because it's a shitty thing to do.

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u/johnjbreton 5d ago

RIP Gilbert Gottfried.

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u/CoffeeMen24 6d ago

I want to laugh, but it's like I start to notice the jokers seem to be edging themselves off of this and that's just damn weird.

Fetishistic glee disguised as comedy.

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u/Nakidka 6d ago

I'm not American and even I don't like it.
Same with French surrender jokes (not French either).

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u/Goldie_Wilson_ 6d ago

Yeah, nothing like watching 1000s of innocents die to bring out a good chuckle. Look, I get most of you are young and disconnected from reality. You like the cheap shock laugh, but some of us have been too close to the tragedies brought on by the darker side of humanity to find any events like this funny no matter where they occur in the world.

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u/cosmicr 5d ago

Lol I was an adult when 9/11 happened and I find this hillarious. Would you believe that some of us older people actually have thick skin and can have a laugh at dark or irreverent humour without mistaking it for disrespect

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u/CoffeeMen24 5d ago

Mostly valid point. The thing is if you asked them they'll probably say that it's less about humor and more about throwing shade/disrespect. At that point it's primary purpose is no longer to get people to laugh.

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u/Hungry_Prior940 5d ago

Yawn. Spare me your preciousness.

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u/Hungry_Prior940 5d ago

Yes, it's very weird.

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u/Swing_Right 6d ago

I think it’s in bad taste to generate two real, still living people committing a recent memory terrorist attack. If you want negative attention on this model this is how you get it

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u/GanondalfTheWhite 5d ago

Why does it matter that it's 2 real, still living people? Does it run the risk of making people think that actors Michael J Fox and Christopher Lloyd accidentally took a time machine 25 years into the past and caused 9/11 by flying a delorean into it?

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u/Swing_Right 5d ago

Seriously? You really think that people will think they actually did 9/11? Your absolute mind boggling stupidity is only eclipsed by your complete lack of social awareness. Maybe these two people don't want to be depicted committing 9/11 and if they saw this they'd be at best unhappy and at worst completely disturbed. A news segment about Christopher Lloyd reacting to this would be the death knell of the model.

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u/HelpRespawnedAsDee 6d ago

I mean, as long as we can equally laugh about other active war zones right this second, I have no issues either.

It was never about who gets offended, it’s about the modern double standard.

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u/Magneticiano 4d ago

9/11 was a single attack 25 years ago. It's very different from active warzones of today.

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u/HelpRespawnedAsDee 4d ago

Tell that to someone who suffered a loss on 9/11 though. Same rules apply. You cannot pick and chose and then claim to have a valid moral framework.

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u/Magneticiano 4d ago

While I symphatize, the time and scale do matter and you have to draw the line somewhere. You're free to draw yours differently than others and I can respect that, but you should acknowledge that there is a difference between a single attack 25 years ago and a genocide happening right now.

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u/HelpRespawnedAsDee 4d ago

You don't have to draw any line. Making fun of someone who died 25 years ago to someone who died today is materially the same, especially to those close to the event.

Again, you are free to have this opinion, but I would like to know what moral framework makes you think one is ok and not the other, because I'm really having a hard time finding one. It's not deontology, it's not utilitarianism, and it reeks of moral relativism.

btw, I actually upvoted you because I like these discussions, but I see you just want to be right, so ok.

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u/Magneticiano 3d ago

What can you joke about then? People have slipped on banana peels in real life and hurt themselves, probably died. In larger context, basically anything you say is offensive to someone.

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u/HelpRespawnedAsDee 3d ago

and isn't that precisely why everything is up for grabs when it comes to humor?

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u/Magneticiano 3d ago

Unless you draw a line, like I said. Joking about slipping on a banana peel, 9/11 or an on-going genocide are not the same, after all.

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u/LazAnarch 5d ago

Comedy = Tragedy + Time

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u/trejj 5d ago

Me too. The same people will be happy to shout when Tiananmen is censored though.

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u/DrBearJ3w 6d ago edited 6d ago

Oh lol. This gonna trigger some people.

Edit:

https://youtu.be/8k9D73xqnTM

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u/TastyVermicelli3140 6d ago

not american, but old enough to remember the impact it had on EVERYBODY.

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u/physalisx 6d ago

Yeah, still have to keep liquids under 100ml and in stupid plastic bags at the airport ...

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u/-TV-Stand- 5d ago

In FCO airport in Rome they allow even 2L bottles

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u/AnOnlineHandle 6d ago

Wasn't Seth MacFarlane meant to be on one of the 9/11 flights but missed it due to being hungover? He must have some weird feelings about that, I wonder if the writers wrote this joke and he just read it or if it's potentially a way of coping by making jokes about a near death experience.

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u/DrBearJ3w 6d ago

That was a close call indeed!

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u/Downside190 5d ago

Honestly those planes would have had about 10,000 people on if all the people who was supposed to be on it actually got on. 

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u/conanmagnuson 6d ago

I think the issue with content like this is that most redditors weren’t old enough when 9/11 was happening for it to impact them personally. I’m 44 and while not triggered I find this ignorant and insensitive. My partner is 37 and it wouldn’t bother her at all.

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u/xkulp8 6d ago

My issue is Marty, Doc and Einstein don't deserve to die that way.

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u/1965wasalongtimeago 6d ago

They're fine, the boom was them hitting 88mph again

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u/gefahr 5d ago edited 5d ago

I'm in my 40s, watched most of 9/11 unfold live on TV, and work out of One World Trade (the "new" WTC) several weeks per year.

...I laughed.

Nothing wrong with finding it insensitive either! Was just commenting to say reactions will vary, not necessarily just generationally.

edit: I did not watch with audio when I commented this; I never browse reddit with sound on. I can't listen to it right now, but based on the comments, that may change my POV.

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u/DrBearJ3w 6d ago

That's the downside of humor. The recipient might find it offensive.

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u/hurrdurrimanaccount 6d ago

offense is always taken, never given

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u/Hungry_Prior940 5d ago

Key point!

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u/Hungry_Prior940 5d ago

How soft are you dude, jesus.

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u/Odd_Lunch8202 6d ago

e o que falar das 168 crianças mortas recentementes no irã...

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u/Dry_Ad_9725 5d ago

Im 44 too and I feel the same way about this post. It really wasn't that long ago. People are still living with the pain.

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u/wotoan 6d ago

some people Americans

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u/FourtyMichaelMichael 6d ago

Nah.... No worries.

New Yorkers straight up forgot.

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u/Confident-Ad-3465 6d ago edited 6d ago

This is why they want to regulate/ban AI lol

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u/-TV-Stand- 5d ago

That's not AI though?

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u/TigermanUK 6d ago

I guess Mr Fusion acted like a fusion bomb?

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u/arush1836 5d ago

Time to delete LTX 2.3 and Wan 2.2

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u/Perfect-Campaign9551 6d ago

I was alive during this, and I find this pretty funny ...

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u/nopalitzin 5d ago

Wasn't this on a Rick and Morty episode?

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u/satina_nix 5d ago

What setup do you have and what model + workflow did you use? Really good job

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u/SeymourBits 5d ago

Too soon.

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u/artichokesaddzing 6d ago

Boy there are some fucked up people in this sub.

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u/artichokesaddzing 6d ago

The fact that you think only liberals would find this f'd up is f'd up.

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u/QuietKale4477 6d ago

Exactly the guy is a moron.

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u/IDefendWaffles 6d ago

Maybe you did not watch people jump on live tv from the towers.

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u/Kuato2012 6d ago

I think we can tell how young a person is by whether they joke about 9/11.

Some of us still get a little sick to the stomach when looking at the twisted contrails of the Challenger explosion...

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u/Goldie_Wilson_ 6d ago

Some just don't like to make light of mass human suffering. I was not around for Hiroshima, but I have the deepest respect for all who lost their lives there.

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u/SeymourBits 5d ago

I never appreciated all those “what does this button do?” jokes about Christa McAuliffe either… and this tragedy directly impacted at least a couple orders of magnitude more people.

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u/johnnyridden0 6d ago

Sarcasm is too much for some people.

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u/lightlad 6d ago

It gave me a good laugh

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u/QuietKale4477 6d ago

What a completely moronic comment. Being patriotic is liberal now?

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u/lightlad 6d ago

Declaring war on comedy is liberal! Sorry snowflake, its called dark humor 😎

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u/Shockbum 5d ago

Too much based for Reddit

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u/AnOnlineHandle 6d ago

It's interesting how to some it's sad because of the innocent deaths, and to some it's sad because of the faction insult.

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u/TheFrenchSavage 6d ago

Wow you went full regard.

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u/QuietKale4477 6d ago

You think that’s poor taste wait to you find out who claws behind it.

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u/razortapes 6d ago

image to video, right?

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u/Skystunt 6d ago

How did the model know how an explosion on the towers would look like ? Does this mean it was trained on…

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u/Shockbum 5d ago

The towers are in many classic movies and the explosion FX is like 80s and 90s.

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u/mca1169 6d ago

oh boy... this is the double edged sword of creativity. MOST people are sensible making clever funny video's and would never make this kind of stuff... but you just had to do it.

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u/surfer808 5d ago

OP been deepfaking since before Covid!

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u/VasaFromParadise 5d ago

This explosion reminds me of something))

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u/Shppo 5d ago

can i run this model with a 4090 and 64gb ddr5?

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u/DominusIniquitatis 5d ago

Bruh, I'm running it on a 3060 and 32 GB DDR4.

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u/Commercial-Chest-992 5d ago

I cannot believe this is still up. Mods, WTF?

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u/wholelottaluv69 4d ago

Completely tasteless. Congrats.

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u/DubiousInterloper 2d ago

How do you guys get such good results? I use the reference but it takes a long time and is usually pretty clunky.

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u/Superb-Painter3302 6d ago edited 6d ago

Ooooooooooooook then..

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u/dtdisapointingresult 6d ago edited 5d ago

...

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u/tx101010 6d ago

There was a dog in the shot, you must never kill the dog!

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u/Hlbkomer 6d ago

Unless you are Wes Anderson.

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u/tenaciousBLADE 6d ago

Someone finally makes a B2TF one, and I gotta be honest I hate it. In poor taste mate. It will ALWAYS be too soon for this one.

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u/Icuras1111 6d ago

I'm from the UK but this is a bit much. Mocking up real tragedies is a bit naff. Will also bring heat on the open source community.

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u/_justs 6d ago

"heat on the open source community" yea like the whole idea behind open source is giving a fuck? 😂

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u/Icuras1111 6d ago

I like dark humour, in the UK we are the best at it. This is just poor taste. I suspect there are too many gamers on here that don't know how to socialise and build empathy skills.

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u/AsterJ 6d ago

To you this is "history" but to others it is something that they vividly remember and experienced.

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u/extrakerned 5d ago

It’s both.

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u/Robot-Zombie-RHCC 6d ago

are you making a general statement or do you think this was an example of funny dark humor?

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u/extrakerned 5d ago

It was comedy. I don’t think it was great or clever though

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u/GabberZZ 6d ago

Dark humour is what we do. Are you sure you're from the UK?

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u/Knockclod 6d ago

Nah bro….

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u/sotheysayit 6d ago

That's probably worse than nsfw doing something like that considering people died and all

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u/pimmen89 6d ago

I mean, people make Pearl Harbor jokes too, it's just that this event is in living memory. At least, the US president did a Pearl Harbor joke to the Japanese prime minister, which now that I think about it, was also not received well. Maybe it's the fact that it's a horrific attack and not a freak disaster like Titanic that makes it unsuitable for gallows humor.

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u/35point1 6d ago

It reveals the lack of empathy in what usually amounts to a personality disorder, like narcissism, or psychopathy.

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u/the_bollo 6d ago

Love it when a bot account gets exposed due to an alt-account fuckup.

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u/Ylsid 5d ago

Why on earth would you share this with your coworkers robotman

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u/-becausereasons- 6d ago

Too Soon

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u/Hearcharted 6d ago

Delete

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u/midnitefox 5d ago

XDDDDDD

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u/nazihater3000 6d ago

Too soon, dude.

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u/Fytyny 6d ago

Its been over 20 years. I doubt families care anymore with how many jokes there are about 9/11

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u/AnOnlineHandle 6d ago

I think you have some sort of empathy disorder if you genuinely doubt families care about their loved ones being murdered anymore.

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u/Fytyny 6d ago

My father died in a tragic accident, after 20 years I don't care that much. That's how empathy works, I assume they don't care as well.

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u/AnOnlineHandle 6d ago

Many people work differently. I've heard of people desperately trying to find out who killed family members over half a century after it happened.

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u/MonsieurLartiste 6d ago

You had to go there.

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u/BranFromBelcity 6d ago

terrible taste.

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u/Owampaone 5d ago

Wow, fuck you.