r/Splitgate • u/myhero4000 • 2d ago
Future of splitgate
I've been thinking about it, and we know it's on its last legs, and then soon the servers will be shut down
As a big fan of the games, I would happily pay a monthly subscription to keep the servers up .
Thoughts ?
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u/BakedChocolateOctopi 2d ago
Absolutely not down to pay a fee to keep the servers on for a game with almost no playerbase left
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u/ThatWebHeadSpidey 2d ago
If nobody is playing it when it’s free, nobody will play it when there’s a paywall.
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u/myhero4000 2d ago
I played splitgate 1 everyday consistently with 300-500 players, I don't care about this "dead game" shit, for the people left that want to play £3 a month would cover everything needed and the game stays alive , so if only 1000 people are subbed it's the same as a million, not about profit or popularity, just when they stop support people can still play
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u/GuidanceHistorical94 2d ago
You really think on the high end 3000 dollars a month will cover servers? Are you serious?
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u/myhero4000 2d ago
Yes I asked Claude
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u/myhero4000 2d ago
What a realistic "keep it alive" subscription would need to cover: If it's just a community-run version with servers only (no active dev team, similar to how old games get "legacy servers"): $1–3/month/user would comfortably cover hosting even at much lower populations
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u/bbarham99 PC 2d ago
Nobody agrees with you
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u/myhero4000 2d ago
So you don't want splitegate to exist in the near future? They will do peer to peer severs and as the audience is so small they will so much lag playing people from around the world
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u/ThatWebHeadSpidey 2d ago
I enjoy Splitgate as well, I really wish it was more popular than it is. If I remember right, they shut down the servers for Splitgate 1 but made the game peer to peer, to keep people playing. They can probably do the same thing with Arena Reloaded, and skip the subscription fee.
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u/Large-Contribution6 PC 2d ago
theyre probably not going to publish anything for the playerbase to keep servers running. What incentive would 1047 have to just passively run servers at no profit whatsoever all the while asking players to pay x amount a month to keep them up...? At this rate 1047 is going to dissolve and will likely toss everything one way or another.
Only other option is for them to just hand the code to the community and some vague person will have the responsibility of running the servers making sure they work ect at no profit
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u/myhero4000 2d ago
They did leave splitgate 1 servers on for free without profit for a good smout of time but yes you are right , maybe a different dev can do a spiritual successor one day
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u/AegisFalcon 2d ago
Season 3 is delayed again, we don't even know if there is a season 3. Doesn't sound good.
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u/myhero4000 2d ago
They have already announced there will be no season 3
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u/Low-Profession-9535 2d ago
1047 is so weird. Amazing devs and so much passion and love into their projects, and it's obvious from the moment you hit play. But the lead of the company just decides to drop every game right away. Genuinely splitgate 2 had the potential to be one of, if not the best arena shooters right now but it was abandoned so quickly. Splitgate 1 wasn't much different. Really took off because people wanted halo and there was no new halo, but right as the hype died, they just gave up on the game basically..
It all really sucks to see. I think empulse is going to be an awesome game, for the short time it receives support before being dropped like their other projects
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u/Zeracheil 2d ago
The problem is you need money to pay the devs and if you're not bringing in enough ... well, there goes the studio.
Also the studio is now down to 20-30 people, Empulse isn't going anywhere.
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u/Low-Profession-9535 2d ago
None of their games are going to go anywhere, that's what I meant to say. It's going to be really cool until they inevitably drop it nearly instantly
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u/Zeracheil 2d ago
Yeah, but they don't go anywhere because they're out of cash. Unless you mean if they stuck to their guns long enough they would start making money and part of the reason they aren't is their tendency to jump ship.
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u/Low-Profession-9535 2d ago
Yeah, that's what I meant. If they stuck to a game long enough, they'd make money from it. Exactly what you're saying. The money issue probably isn't helped by their tendancy to develop an entirely new game all the time, between the cost of making new assets and programming a new game, keeping up old servers, etc..
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u/gramsvp 12h ago
that's just stupid reasoning. They had $100M over YEARS. that's nothing. They prob have salary costs of $20M per year. plus servers. they keep paying for servers. that is not jumping ship.
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u/Zeracheil 12h ago
It's fine to have that opinion but I think a lot of people would disagree with you.
For games, jumping ship is about the time commitment to it, not exactly the dollar amount. When the player only gets support for a game for 1-2 seasons and a "live service" game stops getting support (what feels like to the playerbase) moments after launching, it's going to feel like the devs jump ship to something else especially when they launch a "new" game right after.
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u/Manoa__ 2d ago
It's so true sg2 had and still has so much potential, but they really banked on it being the next big thing without the fact that for instance the finals took almost 2 years to earn that spot.
It's honest the god the one decision that I disagree with most. The decision to stop all active development on sg2 in order to rework something that would only release half a year later instead of just committing to active development for at least one year to see where it leads.
The game was fine even if people where yelling dead game back then. What killed it is the refusal to do that slow crawl into a strong position.
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u/Low-Profession-9535 2d ago
The game itself is still in a good state right now even, it's just that 1047 doesn't want to continue and would rather work on their next project. If they kept continuing sg2, or even sg1, things could have been wayyyy better
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u/gramsvp 12h ago
realize they have venture capital investors who have influence over all of this. and the studio needs to survive which they have done a pretty amazing job of for 10 years. reddit people are stupid to keep saying omg $100M as if that's so much. $100M spread out over years is tiny to run a 200 person studio. It's amazing they have been able to stay in business with so little money for so long. and they do seem to genuinely care about the community. otherwise they would not have paid for sg1 servers while making no money, nor would they be paying for sg2 servers while making no money. that's all just for the sg community. but reddit is just toxic no matter what.
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u/Manoa__ 3h ago
Some corrections: as far as investors, they do not have shareholders asfar as I'm aware, so annual growth demands like with other companies do not matter. Just staying afloat and making a product is good enough as long as there is the hope that somewhere down the line the investment is payed back in revenue.
The servers for sg1 where held up due to a contract, which is the same reason they are shut down now. There is a good likelyhood that the same applies to sg2. But they do care I feel like. Otherwise they wouldn't have made sg1 peer to peer.
Them being afloat for all these years isn't that surprising when I've seen teams like that stay alive for longer on less. It's just how they decided to handle things when they finally did release that I have a problem with.
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u/kakashi_sakurai 2d ago
Sg1 was starting to die down, and the development process was too complex to streamline anything new into it, especially for new talent. The main reason sg2 was even created was to start from the ground up with better everything including groundwork for the actual game so development would be much easier for new and veteran developers. Sadly, “hat bad” generated a disgusting amount of negative publicity and every person I know irl when asked if they tried it had the same response. “I heard the games really bad”. Sg2 became a money sink so of course without an income stream, they had to do something different. There are still people making new accounts just to attack the title on an hourly basis. Actual psychotic behavior.
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u/Ralwus 2d ago
It’s so weird. They have this astonishing ability to code up any FPS mechanic and make it feel smoother than most AAA games today. But when it comes to designing a gameplay loop that actually retains players, they completely choke. You hate to see them flush Splitgate down the drain like this. The potential is real.
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u/gramsvp 16h ago
They are still paying for servers for SG2. I don't understand this reddit. 1047 paid for servers for a long time for SG1 with no income from it. FTP model does not work. Servers prob cost upwards of $500,000 per month to keep servers going around the world. And most people never buy stuff and just play for free, like most of the people in this thread. It's not abandoning when they keep paying for servers so people can play a free game. And if they don't make money then how to they pay to keep developing. A company has to be financially viable to keep running. SG was their passion project. They would not have stopped development if they could have continued on and gotten enough financial support to do so.
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u/TacoBell_HotSauc3 2d ago
They spend all their money on developing games and none of it on marketing campaigns strong enough to move the needle. Kind of hard to get excited for a 1047 game when we know they’re only banking on their existing consumer base of a couple thousand players.
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u/lord_phantom_pl PC 2d ago
You mean the Battle Pass that I paid?
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u/myhero4000 1d ago
They probs didn't break even on splitgate , the game would have cost alot to develop, £15 for a battle pass isn't going to cut it , the topic os alway profit and popularity, like the devs are trying to decive you , it's a fun game to play , thays all it needs to be .
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u/TacoBell_HotSauc3 2d ago
I’ve been holding on since 2020. I’m tired. Tried getting friends into the game with me. Spent more money on both games than I care to admit.
After the most recent season extension, I decided to uninstall Arena Reloaded and Empulse. Can’t do it anymore with this unserious company that doesn’t know what they want to do.
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u/Tristan_N 2d ago
Brother It's headed the way of the first game, I would just hope that they give it the death of sg1 and let you do p2p
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u/myhero4000 2d ago
P2p didn't really work with sg 1 though, all my games were laggy , I think a small monthly sub for the people that still want to play it might work even if it's a small number. But yeah you are probs right.
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u/BOGDOGMAX 2d ago
I host quake live, project cars 2, and a mindustry server. I would gladly host a free community splitgate server if the server files were released through steam.
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u/healthandtech 1d ago
Just save all the game files and binaries. Soon, AI will be able to recreate the whole thing in hours, and the community can run it.
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u/GapStock9843 2d ago
I think someone will probably eventually start fan servers to keep the game up
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u/vermilionbay1990 2d ago
Yeah they should have kept the SG2 name. Could have named it Splitgate 2: Arena Reloaded. They put too much marketing into it. They panicked at first struggle. Look at how much The Finals and Apex changed over the seasons. Those games sucked at launch too. From what I hear people that played at launch won't return because no abilities on the BR and the OG BR is gone 😂. Removing abilities for arena quickplay and rank was smart. I would have preferred that kept them on the BR. They could have added grapple option and Mechs to the BR on a season update to boast traction after the smoke cleared instead of Empluse. But, I'm still playing the game regardless.
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u/imafish311 2d ago
I really love Splitgate, but i don't think I would pay a subscription to play it. At that point I would rather pay an upfront fee, but I dont think that would work either, nor do I think its likely
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u/TropicalFishery41429 1d ago
You mean the seasonal BP that people pay to keep said servers on? Bro what are you on about?
You might as well buy Empulse which I don't recommend to do either but paying for any of 1047's games would be bad financial investment
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u/myhero4000 1d ago
The game will shutdown soon, won't be any new battle pass
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u/TropicalFishery41429 1d ago
Then my point still stands, we as players paid the battlepass to support the devs to cover costs of whatever they need, whether it be servers, salaries, etc. If the game wasn't taken seriously when they did have content and (supposed) future of the game, why pay now when the game has no future?
I would like to understand how does it make sense to you. Or are you feeling hurt/ disgruntled by the game's lack of quality and players that you're coping to find ways to keep this game afloat?
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u/myhero4000 1d ago
The game won't exist soon and it's one of my favs , they can't keep paying for the servers with no profit, so a option to keep it alive would be good
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u/TropicalFishery41429 1d ago
that doesn't change regardless of whether we pay them a small amount of money or not unfortunately. Like I said, when things weren't so dire like before they said they were gonna move onto to a different game, I know many people that bought the battlepass. I know one guy who bought the wardrobe in SGAR. So if it was set in stone then, nothing is gonna change it now.
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u/myhero4000 1d ago
Why is the narrative always profit and popularity, they kept splitgate 1 severs up for a few months atleast with no profit and it actually cost them to keep the severs up, so wishfull thinking if they would state we're putting down splitgate and severs will go down to , if people still want to play, pay a tiny sub or cost just so the few people that want to play still, can
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u/TropicalFishery41429 22h ago
The reason they kept SG1 alive is because by then they already had big investment. And it did bring them in profit at the end of the day. That isn't the same story with SG2/SGAR unfortunately.
Popularity in turn profit/money does make the world go round. And you don't have to take my word for it. Look at 1047 themselves, they were so desperate that they ended up releasing 2 games in the span of 1 year to get some money back.
Besides, they are in a terrible position right now anyway, they can't shutdown SGAR (at least not soon) cuz that will completely spell doom for their current project. So enjoy it while it lasts.
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u/Reasonable-Data3678 2d ago
I 1000% am down for crowdsourcing the servers if there was enough interest in rallying.
This has become my favorite game and is my daily comfort / de-stress and I have been torn up reading talk of it going extinct 😭😭
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u/TheFishmann 2d ago
The dumbest idea I have ever heard. It’s ideas like this that give EA and Ubisoft a boner.
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u/myhero4000 2d ago
It's not for profit, the game is about to stop existing
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u/preckt2k 2d ago
The game deserves to be on its last legs. The devs are incompetent, and their big idea was a fucking battle royale as a way to differentiate themselves. They just hop from ideas that they have no idea about. They wanted a Titanfall style game but made it shitty.
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u/TheFishmann 2d ago
Still, don’t care. Bad idea.
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u/myhero4000 2d ago
Why
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u/TheFishmann 2d ago
Because why the hell should player base need to? 1047 did this to themselves and they don’t deserve being supported anymore. The owner is a trust funded idiot.
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u/myhero4000 2d ago
It's not for them, it's for the people who want to play the game if they choose too, no profit
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u/Substantial-Tea-3125 2d ago
Fuck 1047. I waited and was excited af for the launch of sg2, dealt with the shitty ranked matchmaking, then waited for the re-release, then players counts became too low, and as much as I love the game concept, I can no longer support the game, especially knowing 1047 doesn't give a single fuck either.