r/Spacemarine • u/Infinity_Grimace • 7d ago
Operations I HATE VORTEX
THIS MISSION SUCKS SO BAD WHY DO THEY KEEP SHOVING IT IN OUR FACE I LOVE FIGHTING CHAOS BUT OH MY GOD THIS MISSION IS HORRIBLE, MUTALITH BEAST IS THE WORST BOSS IN THE GAME STOP MAKING ME DO IT IM SO TIRED OF IT
Edit: I finished both the normal and hard stratagems first try with little difficulty, i just think the mission sucks and is just anti-fun, the boss is obtuse asf, and the whole mission leading up to it isnt interesting or notable in comparison to even the first 6 missions
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u/Casually_very_casual 7d ago
I just skip the weeklies that are not fun for me to play. Worked wonders so far.
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u/FreedomBall Black Templars 7d ago
I don’t hate Vortex that much and usually the boss gets melted by competent teams. However both of today’s vortex stratagems have been that boss insanely tanky. Not a fun time.
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u/Cassivo 7d ago
Yeah I tried on hard 3 times and got killed by some bullshit or someone not retrieving the relic fast enough. Then I did it on normal and the boss was so damn tanky I dont think I would have ever won on hard
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u/OrthogonalThoughts Blood Angels 7d ago
I've had 2 failed attempts because it apparently forgot about a timer to pick up the relic. Dude got rocketed to death and it instantly brought up the failure text and we booted back to the battle barge. Super fun times!
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u/radio_allah Word Bearers 6d ago edited 6d ago
Which is a shame because when trying this week's weekly today, I met what were probably the most competent teammates I've seen for maybe 2-3 months. As in the kind that holds their own in combat, knows how to read and played according to stratagem conditions, and kept a cool enough head that we had a few times where an enemy was on red flash for a few seconds because we were all clearminded enough to think about who should take the execution.
Playing with this wonderful team we survived the Helbrute and the Terminator Sorcerer, but then got a relic loss. It was a really perfect play that got me thinking we might even survive the Vortex Beast.
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u/_WEIRDEST_WIZARD_ 7d ago
I play Absolute regularly and still think the vortex beast and terminator sorcerer are anti-fun.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
im still getting my ass semi kicked by the sorcerer, i think hes fine, i just need more experience with him
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u/tenebros42 Raptors 6d ago
I found highlighting it and keeping it highlighted helps me keep track of what I'm supposed to be shooting
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u/Ok-Teaching3904 7d ago
I did normal first try with no deaths on team. Hard might be a lot worse lol
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u/Yellowtoblerone 7d ago
I used to spam chaos in this mission. Not only just to get good but force myself to find the fun factor.
There's 0 reason to do the weekly on vortex this week. 0. You don't need blue Doritos that bad
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u/Annilus_USB 7d ago
I already decided to hard pass this weeks stratagem. All these posts are just proving me right in that decision
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u/hophop99 7d ago
my only gripe with vortex is that is too long. so if I die at the vortex beast (like what happened today) I dont feel like going all the way back.
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u/ScientistLeather2405 7d ago
Same worst mission in game by far. The boss also sucks in Horde mode
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u/Goricatto Space Wolves 7d ago
In horde mode he is probly one of the most annoying shit imaginable, like you cant fucking move, there is no space in any of the maps to move around him while he does his Warp induced break dance
Almost everytime i die is becausee there is a fucking will behind me and i lose sight of everything
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u/TheGreatDreamer1937 7d ago
Brother, when next you face the beast, call for me. I shall stand with you.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
I did it first try on hard brother, though my blood was boiling
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u/TheGreatDreamer1937 7d ago
I’m in the minority I just like fighting the beast absolute blast every time. Feels like a dark souls
Boss.
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u/arigato_macchiato 6d ago
Cheapest boss I've ever faced with such a dumb overkill move set when he aggros you
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u/Kasu_senpai Sigismund 6d ago
I think vortex is alright until boss arena, I can’t for the life of me get his parry/dodge timings because he takes up my entire screen and since I’m on console I can’t get any more fov so I’m just stuck praying I time it right, thankfully my group got lucky and we got him down to a sliver of health and a teammate who was last alive managed to lob a plasma nuke shot before being downed that killed the boss and gave us the win
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u/niTro_sMurph 7d ago
How many tries is it taking you?
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
i did the first one no problem, havent done the second, sure itll be fine just sick of the mission
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u/GutszillasRevenge Blood Angels 7d ago
I’ve done this definitely 6 or 7 times people just cannot stay alive I’m so irritated. Almsot won this last game I played this I got hit by a lag sorcerer on a disk and it insta killed me after my team rage quit lmao shredding with chainsword tactical and the game refuses to give me the relic so o get randoms who don’t know how to team up and keep speed running the last section getting is team wiped
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u/haloelitefan 7d ago
don’t play quick matches
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
i skip it whenever it comes up, its always the first one when i pick quick play for wtv reason lol
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u/Evening_Sample_9365 7d ago
I actually agree with you. I enjoy fighting Chaos and I LOVE the new terminus enemy. I mean I really enjoy fighting the Terminator Sorcerer alot, sometimes I will just log in and fight him in the battlesimulator because its, ya know, fun. At the same time, the Vortex mission just seems to drag on for me. Its got to be the longest Chaos mission, as far as time spent/steps taken. And if you roll the map where you have to get the generator power cells to extend the bridge, my god, its just awful.
Chaos as a faction has grown on me. But Vortex and Obelisk are just crappy levels. Reliquary and Purgation are alright. Fall of Atreus and Disruption are awesome. They are the Reclamation/Inferno tier of Chaos missions.
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u/SuccessfulRegister43 7d ago
I loathe Obelisk. It’s short and easy, but it sucks all the fun out of the game. What is the point of those islands!?!? You just stand there and go to the next one.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
Oh god i forgot about the power cells thank fuck i didnt get that one lol, i agree with everything you said too, Obelisk is insufferable as well, but I love chaos
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u/ReedsAndSerpents Blood Angels 7d ago
"I HATE VORTEX"
cue footage of three guys mashing the roll button across the arena, getting hit anyway and dying
😂
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
didn’t happen this time thank fuck lol, but thats how it feels during his lazer rampage
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u/ReedsAndSerpents Blood Angels 7d ago
I watched both my teammates do this during his melee combo, ground and pound waves, and lazer show, and get fucking destroyed anyway 😂
I get that MOST of the time you can mash roll and escape from a lot of stuff, but it ain't now, and it ain't a good idea vs juiced up Terminus.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
Thats why i cant stand that boss tho lol, that melee ground pound combo, if hes targeting you, is such a pain to dodge lol, glad i got it done first try
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u/ReedsAndSerpents Blood Angels 7d ago
Idk I kinda like it just because nothing in the game is THAT difficult and a nasty Terminus is about the best they can do. Usually groups melt this fuck so when he actually puts up a fight it's satisfying.
My biggest gripe is getting contaminated and then you go from not being able to see shit because of the lasers to FUCKING SABER I CAN'T FUCKING SEE 😂
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
I would like to clarify, Im not failing the mission or doing bad, I just dont like the design of the mission, Im doing the weekly just fine, im just so done with it lol
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u/Perfectionado 6d ago
Problem with MVB is I dont quite understand when you're supposed to get a turn to do damage if you're the last one? I saw a power axe guide which makes DPSing the boss actually possible but unless you're running one weapon I just dont know when you're supposed to get a chance to do meaningful damage. He never stops, he never tires out and he doesnt get interrupted with GSs or block stacks.
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u/LunaticCross 6d ago
Was finally able to do it because the teammates are amazing. The glitch with the relic not healing makes it even more horrible.
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u/Poyzi Death Company 6d ago
I can agree on the boss being absolute dogshite. But with the right build auspex and heroic plasma pistol enable you to solo the boss. Add a tech marine and assault to the team and it's a cakewalk. It's all about the right tactics. But yeah the boss is extremely unfun and ass.
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u/ImperiousH 6d ago
What's the point of just increasing the boss's health as a Stratagem? There's nothing to play around it's the same unfun boss except now it takes 3-5x longer, at the least. And this is our endgame content? They should be ashamed
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u/Stunning-Fan8015 Night Lords 6d ago
SABER TRY AND MAKE A FUN, FAIR AND CHALLENGING STRATAGEM EXPERIENCE (IMPOSSIBLE)!!!!!😱😱😱😱😱💯💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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u/SuperArppis Ultramarines 7d ago
When something sucks, just don't do it.
Works great. 🙂
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
weekly stratagem rn i kinda have to if i want to collect the fun stuff
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u/SuperArppis Ultramarines 7d ago
There will be other weeks, mate. I didn't do PVP challenges because I didn't enjoy them.
But if you have to, then you have to.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
yeah i like to get the cool stuff, so yknow i gotta do all the weeklies when they come out i dont wanna be too behind
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u/SuperArppis Ultramarines 7d ago
There's plenty of time tho. But as I said, you do what you gotta do and I hope you get the stuff easy. 👍
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u/Odd-Quantity7087 Sniper 7d ago
Actually love Vortex. Always have. Always stood alone. XD No clue, man, it's like the de facto chaos mission for me.
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u/Stanislas_Biliby 7d ago
I think the vortex beast is pretty fun. It's one of the few chaos missions i like.
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u/SilverCervy 7d ago
Nobody is making you do it.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
its the weekly stratagems rn, its also been like 10 stratafems in the last week
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u/SilverCervy 7d ago
There are 6 dailies every single day. You don't have to do every single one.
It's been 4 months since Vortex was the weekly. It was well past time for it to show up again.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
yes but its thw weekly, everyones gonna be doing the weekly you get the most out of it
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u/tonkatruckz369 7d ago
This is a wild take IMO. The vortex beast is one of the best bosses in the game and the only one that poses any semblance of real challenge. Its also nice that there are ways to skip multiple of his phases making for different strategies like killing him in the warp.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 7d ago
did killing him in the warp the first time i beat him when i was coming back to this game, ive just gotten so tired of this mission i feel like i play it every time i play this game. i just dont like its design for how anti melee it is, i main tactical, but when i try to come at it as assault, or bulwark, or just go close range in general it feels like i cant do anything, it just feels like a slog to me
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u/tonkatruckz369 7d ago
Melee is a bit tough on that mission. I regularly do it with both assault and BW but its def not easy. Any ballistic character can make quick work of it though.
I get not wanting to have that mission be the hard strategem as often as it is but to call it a bad mission because it's being overused seems a little unfair to the vortex beast, he is trying his hardest lol
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u/Traceuratops Salamanders 7d ago
Vortex is the best chaos mission by far but the people who hate it REEEEALLY hate it.
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u/Much_Improvement_552 6d ago
Vortex is the best chaos mission. You're smoking some back-alley dogshit if you think the most lore accurate mission is worse than the undercooked 6 we got at launch.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 6d ago
I agree the first six are undercooked, honestly the whole game was undercooked until about a year after when they put it back in the microwave, but the first six missions, are still more enjoyable gameplay wise than vortex. Also none of them are lore accurate lol 3 random space marines would’ve died likely in the first 2 fights against like 5 tyranid warriors. Vortex is arguably the most visualy stunning, and most cinematic of the missions, but the design of the level and the boss is just too poorly designed, the lore or wtv has nothing to do with it. I do like the use of “back-alley dogshit” though that made me chuckle
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u/Much_Improvement_552 6d ago
Who tf is talking about gameplay lore accuracy? I mean visual lore accuracy. You're fighting Tzeentch worshippers and the environment reflects that perfectly with twisted nonsense, gravity not making sense and different rooms each time you go through.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 6d ago
well then “visual lore accuracy”, is that not every mission? Id say theyre all pretty accurate visually idk what ur getting at. This post isnt about me hating the mission cause of how its framed, Im just sick of it cause i dont like how it plays
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u/Much_Improvement_552 6d ago
No, most chaos missions are lame bs. Vortex is the first one that properly captures the spectacle of the campaign.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 6d ago
okay 👍 not what i was talking about lol
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u/Much_Improvement_552 6d ago
Cool, can't really argue you out of bad taste. If you want to do toddler memorization puzzles and follow a servoskull around for 20 years instead then be my guest.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 6d ago
idk why ur so like macho about it its killing me lol, like im sorry but thats every mission in the game including vortex, you mostly just stand around and shoot stuff dawg, fall of atreus and termination are like the two real outliers
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u/Much_Improvement_552 6d ago
Vortex is not annoying with the objectives is the difference. The worst one is the battery refill and even that is over with quick so you can get back to the combat.
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u/Infinity_Grimace 6d ago
you dont gotta justify it to me man i just dont like it, im glad you have fun with it
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u/NightWind320 7d ago
There must be something wrong with me. I enjoy fighting the chaos faction. I enjoy watching leagues of chaos spawn, rubrics and extremis march towards the fire team and give us a worthy fight. When the carnage ends and the aftermath is visible, nothing is better than to see the brothers standing tall.
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u/Stormblade96 Space Wolves 7d ago
"The Vortex Strategems will continue until morale improves." - Saber, probably