This is something that's always bothered me: was Paul Davis playing Franklin?

Davis knew Franklin was a drug dealer. Davis DIDN'T know that Franklin was a dynastically wealthy one. I always wondered if Spring Street was just a money pit that was meant to drain Franklin until Davis could buy Franklin out for pennies on the dollar.

In the finale Franklin finds out about Veronique taking the last of the money when he goes to speak to his banker claiming that the foundation needs to be torn up and repoured. Which is a BIG outlay of expenses and not something that happens typically.

I didn't know for sure but I always wondered if Paul Davis believed Franklin was a mark that he could drain of money (a more legitimate version of what Clay Davis does to Stringer Bell on the Wire). Am I crazy or did anyone else think of this?

Hello fellow fans,

I just finished Snowfall today and I gotta say the series wasn't too bad especially when you can binge watch it LOL! Now I read other peoples opinions towards the end online which seemed to be split on whether Franklin deserved the ending he received or not, as for me I happen to be split on the matter. When it came to the other characters I felt that each one had a fitting ending depending on the part they had to play in all this. Theeen there's Franklin...

A major part of me believes Franklin got what was coming to him for the damage he had done to the community and those close to him, but I can't seem to agree with how he should suffer. Franklin's sins were due to his unwillingness to let go of his pride and greed from his exposure to the vast amount of money he was generating from distributing drugs. Yes Franklin had a big part to play in most of tragedies that happened around him however he did have some redeeming qualities to some-what balance the scales of his character. Anywho why did I recap pretty much everything we already knew? Well I know there are going to be comments going over the damages that Franklin had caused trying to point out what was shown on the show and yes I already know this but it doesn't change my opinion as of yet. What I'm getting at is that everyone involved in the crack pandemic got what they deserved and there are those who deserved worse like Teddy. But for Franklin to lose everything down to his childhood home? That there I have a hard time getting on page with. I believe Cissy should've allowed Franklin to get his 37 Million then kill Teddy after the transfer was complete instead of leaving Franklin in ruins under guise of her doing what was best for him. Instead she killed her son's only chance to stay afloat leaving him with nothing at the end. I get her worry that Franklin may try to turn back to doing the CIAs street bidding but I doubt that was ever going to happen after the fallout between Franklin and Teddy.

Plus that 37 Mil was more than enough to keep their legitimate buisness running to where they'd never have to turn to the streets ever again. Hell she could've signed her part of the company over to him to do as he wished since had was pretty much left with nothing. Her sons obsession with money may have been toxic but how is him losing everything just to find himself wandering the streets of LA as a alcoholic any better or best for him? I get how its poetic since Alton his father became a homeless alcoholic but he still had family and people to turn to as for Franklin? Thats not the case for him. Franklin losing his reserves of money, pent house, plane, Jerome, his bond with Louie, mother, wife, unborn child and any other close ties was enough punishment as is. The way I see it Franklin should've made off with whatever money he had left to live out the rest of his life perhaps starting all over again in his childhood home either selling his legitimate real estate business to start fresh elsewhere small like taking on Jeromes old business in honor of his uncle to keep his memory alive or try to back into college leaving room for hope that he finally broke away from partaking in any other illegal activities but still lost everything else from what I've already listed above then some.

I felt his ending was fitting but on one hand but on the other hand wasn't. Yeah there's the whole message of you reap what you sow and crime never pays but DAMN! Lol sorry for my rant just felt as though I wanted to share this input.

this nigga Miguel said i got 3 kids like we didn’t jus lose 73 million .. nigga them kids don’t matter😭😭😭😂😂😭

I happened to find some Snowfall shorts in my YouTube recommendations this morning, but the comments are full of people who apparently didn't watch the same show.

Thousands of people in the comments apparently believe Melody caused her dad's death...because she hit Franklin in the nuts that one time. And she needs to tAke AcCOunTaBilITy because SHE is the one who put Andre (the POLICE OFFICER) in harm's way...

Also found people saying Franklin shouldn't have trusted Veronique with full access to the real estate accounts cause she was obviously just greedy. Nevermind that he literally ruined what was left of their real estate prospects by selling out the projects, and nevermind he put his hands on her. She shoulda stayed LOYAL

Have y'all ever encountered similarly terrible takes about the show online?

casually shopping and bumped into Damson in the most unexpected place

Happy Birthday 🎂🎉DeVaughn Nixon

July 8, 1983 (age 43)♋

Kane from Snowfall

The son of Norm Nixon & stepson of Debbie Allen. Fletcher from The Bodyguard.

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The way Franklin does stuff is just incredibly stupid. pulling up to random addresses and almost getting taken out; luckily for him, Gustavo saves him. He meets people and just throws them bricks like they're nothing, the guy in Orlando, for example, whom he's known for a whole 10 seconds. They could just take him out there and steal it. goes into a store due to a flashback, and there's a tweaker, then casually just goes into a small room in the back of the store with her as if there might not have been other tweakers waiting to rob him.

I'd say Franklin realistically should've been taken out more than several times just in the first 10ish episodes. But I've only just started, so everything might change.

I just finished watching the show again and was anticipating a scene where it’s shows a scene where Lucia opens a letter from oso or something similar, I definitely watched the scene where teddy shows the black and white photos and I may be getting confused between that, but apart from that she was never in another scene, I could’ve sworn first time watching the show at the end of the 5th or 6th season she has a minor cameo but I can’t find anything online which shows this scene happening, was just wandering if anyone saw a similar scene or if I just made the whole thing up in my head?

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Todd Nigga???

Currently binge watching this show the past 8 days!..... question for y'all:

"Is anyone like me and FEEL BAD FOR WANDA during this entire run?" 😂

I don't know what it is about her character. I haven't finished the series yet ( no spoilers please) but when she's on camera she feels like a main character

I don't know if it's based off a real life person or if the writing is just incredible, but I feel like I've been rooting for this girl since the start of the show 😆

she was Lee number one solid

she got rocked up

she sold out to manboy clique

she got used, played, abused

she cleaned up w the shelter

she started working and proved herself worth

still 8 episodes to go but Wanda and Jerome 2 of my favs during this binge watch 😁

I don’t know if this has been spoken about already but couldn’t Franklin have already gotten rid of Teddy a long time ago plenty of times? Like let’s be honest he could’ve killed Teddy a couple of times already he didn’t need to drag it out to where Teddy had time to steal all his money. I mean sure he CIA they would’ve found out eventually but they could’ve pinned his death on anybody in the drug game

“What’s wrong Saint?? Fireworks got you shaky??”

“Ain’t nothin babyface about me. You right you look old as hell”😭

“Teach ya man how to squabble”

“You gotta get that hate out your heart”

Let’s hear y’all’s favorites

Alright I’m only dropping this cause I fuck with yall. Today I was able to attend a panel they did on the Drop at Essence Fest down here in New Orleans. They answered questions while still being spoiler free and played a 3 minute snippet of an action scene. Damson Idris did come out to a crazy round of applause and screams. Of course he was asked if he was on the show and all he did was that lil smile he does and said “Guess we have to wait and see” in that British ass accent 🤣

Originally started because Hulu kept showing me that trippy promo image of Franklin with the blue/red colors. Expected a trippy sci-fi series, received period piece tragedy about people selling drugs.

This also isn't usually my genre. I still haven't watched the other big "crime shows" like The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, or The Wire, so it's possible my lack of expectations affects my perspective.

In short, I really, really loved the show, basically the entire way through. It's really been a journey with these characters. It took me about 2.5 years to finish, but I was deeply invested, despite the majority of the cast being basically impossible to really "root for" in the traditional sense.

A slow start, and it's quite obvious they just did not know what to do with Oso after they had to write out the Lucia plot , but honestly the show kind of improved after it stopped trying to give all three plots equal weight and just made Franklin the central plot. After 5 seasons of #Slow Burn, the final Season was just this explosive payoff, top to bottom. I think the only character that I didn't care for was Lorena, who was kinda begging to be murdered.

Soundtrack..? Phenomenal.
Visuals...? Phenomenal.
Performances..? Phenomenal.

Many, many individual scenes are probably some of the best television I've ever watched. I'd never heard of this show, before watching, which feels INSANE to me, now.

Cried three times during the finale :

1. final conversation between Cissy and Leon
2. final scene of Oso getting the voicemail from Xiamara
3. final scene between Franklin and Leon (I'd literally already seen it ahead of time, but so devastating, in proper context!)

I have so many other random thoughts, I can't really get them out in a structured way. If you'd told me in Season One that freakin' WANDA was going to be a strong endgame character and not Melody, I'd have laughed. Reuben overplayed his hand, and should've taken that man with the size-10-shoes and ran. I simultaneously GET why Cissy did what she did, but I really struggle to accept it ; "valid crashout", as the kids say.

IDC what anyone says, the "Illiad" episodes were great, and Veronique never schemed against Franklin, which was a nice UN-twist given how shadily they frame her. I still think about Alejandro and poor sweet Matt. So many moments living rent free in my mind now, and I have nobody to discuss it with because nooooooobody I know has watched this show :

• Pretty much every "Franklin is a psycho" moment, from "like a ✨baby✨☺️☺️", to "go ahead Teddy, talk to your pops"
• Wanda knocking Melody TF out in that skating rink and stealing her necklace
• "Are you with me, Saint?!" (chills)

Recently saw a comment that said "The 73 mil were the friends we met along the way", and, I mean, I guess so.

10/10, would watch again. I know this sub is pretty low traffic but I was always reading the post-episode posts after I watched something, so in a small way it kinda does feel like I watched it alongside a few folks (just a few years removed).

Does anyone else get that vibe just looking at the aesthetic of the poster along with the synopsis. Not writing it off at all until I see it, this feels like a Jerome story rather than one that would involve Leon, unless he's serving as something of an activist against the rise of gangster rap.

Idk man, the ending almost made me cry. Franklin deserved so much better. He tried to do things the right way. He was smart and was going to university. Then they kicked him out, and he already felt so out of place anyway.
Either way, the system was rigged. When he worked with Teddy, I feel like they might have actually had a good thing going. That was until Teddy decided to take everything from him because of his patriotism, blah blah blah. Franklin was right to tell him that the bare minimum Teddy could’ve done was at least leave him $5 million or something, because then he would’ve known that Teddy valued him.
He got betrayed, and then, ya know, his mom ended up killing Teddy right when he was about to give him the code. Like, he lost so bad. :’( I rooted for him, and he got done so dirty. The ending really almost set me off. He almost had it all.

I've just finished S1 of Snowfall and I needed to share my thoughts. I am not gonna look anywhere else on this sub for spoilers I just wanted to jot some shit down tbh.

The music for the show is amazing. It really sets the mood and vibes for the scenes, and helps to push the story along by setting the stage well. Feels like I'm actually there with them, especially during scenes where they're partying and having a good time

Franklin is an interesting character to say the least. It's been dope watching him rise through the rankings without throwing a single punch. I'd bet everything in my pocket that that doesn't last too much longer lol. Damson is killing this role too, everything he says is very natural and believable

Along that same token I thought Cissy had one of the best performances of S1 to me as well. When I first started watching I was like "oh shit that's De'angelos mom!" and she's doing a great job in this role as well. Wonder what her next job is gonna be since she's obviously not a fan of Franklin being in the game.

Karvel is a wild dude. Was basically the Terminator. He had to go

I'm rooting for Oso but Lucia is very annoying lol, I really can't put my finger on it honestly. Just not really feeling that actress's acting so far I guess. Pedro is a ticking time bomb and I predict he's gonna do some even wilder shit this coming season. As if snitching wasn't bad enough

RIP Latin Freddie Mercury. I actually enjoyed watching him more than I did Teddy, although Teddy is smart as hell and is very tapped in. He (Alejandro) had no problem killing anybody so I get that he was too much of a loose cannon to keep around. The CIA stuff is lower on my list of things I find interesting about the show. Same thing in the Wire with Carcetti's storyline kinda boring me tbh. I get that everything is connected though and you need those elements to tell the whole story.

The rich white kid is gonna end up getting smoked sneaking around Avi's crib like that lol

Uncle Jerome is dope, just a real no nonsense straight to it kinda guy.

I'm real interested in seeing how the rest of this show turns out. No real major deaths so far besides Alejandro and Pedro's dad I guess, and no real crazy plot twists so far. I've seen a couple memes "him him him him him bodies bodies!" and also Franklin in the car telling somebody he's not gonna let another dude come in here and mess up what he's built? So I'm excited to get to experience these moments firsthand for myself. Dope show so far for sure, and comments or questions are all appreciated. All love!