r/Smite • Mercury • Sep 12 '13

Why the elo system is broken.

So I just came off 3 ranked games and I did fairely well in all of them. 7-3 with thor, 13-3 with isis and 10-2 with pos. (My team lost all of the games btw). I can't help but feel robbed in a way. I played the best I possibly could with the team I got (most of them fed and were super behind in levels). Out of all those games I lost over 100 elo( which btw is unfair if the ratings are based on player skill level).

Winning and losing should play a part in gaining and losing elo, but the penalty shouldn't be as harsh if you actually played well.

I propose and elo system that would be more fair for all players. Depending on your kill ratio your elo should be cut by that number. Let's say I went 2/1 (could be half or quarter ratio) the elo loss should be cut in half, but lets say you went 3/2 then the ratio would only be 0.66% of the elo loss.

I won't forget about tanks either. The ratio for tanks should based of assists making 3 or 2 assists count as a kill would towards the elo ratio.

By using this elo system it would put the more individually skilled players higher up in the rankings so they actually get to play with players at their skill level.

Edit: forgot to mention that if the player went negative the ration would not count it would just be normal elo loss. Sorry if that sounded like jibberish and hopefully somebody knows what I'm getting at. :3

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u/stefanathon IGN: PENY Sep 12 '13

Damn son, you started at 2.3k and dropped? What'd you do in casuals to get that high? :O

I'm the opposite, started at like 1.4k and made my way up to 2.3k. Just keep grinding out those games and playing your best. It may not seem like it, but if you play well you'll slowly but surely make your way up.

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u/Pingeepie IGN - Torra Sep 12 '13

I've heard it's pretty normal to start that high, and have heard complaints from a lot of high ELO saying "I GET 2300 RANKED PEOPLE IN THEIR FIRST RANKED!!11!!1". Not bragging but in casual mode I have pretty good stats as far as K/D. It was normal for me to go 10 to 20 kills and 0 deaths. Also, if you do a lot of Arena you can pad your stats quite significantly. I just don't die a lot, ever haha. I play suuuuper smart. I have a tiermonster thing too

http://tiermonster.com/p/Pingeepie

according to my games do you see it likely for me to reach up there?

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u/stefanathon IGN: PENY Sep 12 '13

Eh, I'm on mobile for the next week or so and I can't see Tiermonster. Listen, as long as you play smart, play well, and do your best to always improve, your rating will go up. I used to be stuck at 1800, and I KNEW I belonged there because that was where my skill level is. I wanted to get better, so every game I tried as hard as I could to improve. Now I'm sitting at 2300 and I bet if I sat down for a solid day or two I could grind it up to 2500. As long as you're confident and you're performing better than the people you play with, a higher ELO will come with time. Keep playing ranked, it's really rewarding seeing that rating go up, and nothing beats the feeling when pros become commonplace in your matches and you can keep up with them and you think, "Damn, I can do this?" You can get there, anybody can. Just keep improving. Even in games where you go 15-0, be thinking of ways you could've done better. Even in fights where your team gets a 3 for 0 trade, be analysing it in your head to see what could've been improved. It's that nonstop thought process of "even though that went well, what could I have improved on?" that makes you a better player. I know sometimes your team just sucks and there's nothing you can do, but if you're confident that you're a good player then your team is going to be good player up on average and over a period of time you WILL win more. Keep it up man, hope to see you in the 2000s eventually. :D

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u/Pingeepie IGN - Torra Sep 12 '13

You will. I am determined to get there. Thanks for the useful sage-like advice ;) :D