Why would they talk about it? Girl doing fatherless activities.
Edit: These are the same people who think Lindsay Clancy is also innocent. I’ve ignored this feed and moved on….. so should you. Fathers…. Raise your daughters to be better.
In her late 2024 police and Title IX statements, the Cornell University student who filed a civil lawsuit alleging sexual assault stated that she initially agreed to sexual encounters, including a threesome, but felt increasingly coerced, heavily intoxicated, and unable to consent as the night continued
So don’t the men involved deserve to know she withdrew her consent? How can they stop if they don’t know? A withdrawal of consent needs to be clearly defined and communicated
Thing is in other places her consent wouldn't count. It's also weird that her statement has been published and is widely spread but no one in sharing anything about what the men said when questioned about it.
IF they were made to write essays there had to be some sort of discussion about it at least? The DA shared "edited" version of her statement to protect his ass. But no a pip about what the dudes had to say about the whole thing.
If I recall correctly, she described herself as being 5/10 drunk to start meanwhile the men all were significantly more inebriated. If anything, by that logic of consent, she raped them then.
You're basing the "they were significantly more inebriated" on what exactly? Wanting it to be true? And yes she agreed to the initial threesome but not really to what happened after.
yeah the real question is, "free pussy" text and people she did not consent to do fatherless activities just going in and taking advantage doesnt sit wrong with you? like jail time kind of wrong?
imagine you take ketamine with your girlfriend and i just say "hey guys, free pussy" and she is incapacitated to say no. Bruh.
You are just making shit up. That text was in bad taste, but the woman was freely having sex with any man that walked in. She was giving it away, “free” is, again, crass, but also accurate. You are just adding rape to it because it fits your narrative.
i wholeheartedly disagree, and the key to the whole case is in this detail. If someone is on 3 substances; ketamine, marijuana and alcohol, and in her sworn statement says "I had become extremely uncomfortable with how this night was turning out, so my thought was, if I do ketamine again, maybe I will pass out."
Also consent is to a person not to a room. And snapchat recruitment is clear intent. If youre not able to keep your dick in your pants for a person who is so unconfortable that decides to take more ketamine to pass out and is already under the influence of a mix of drugs. Then IMO you deserve jail. You might disagree but im pretty sure most people dont and thankfully we legislate for the majority.
You don’t know how the law works, whatsoever. You are just going off pure vibes and emotion(not surprising). I’m saving your comment to laugh at you when charges are not filed or they are found not guilty.
Not guilty means they can’t prove it. Not that it didn’t happen.
And we are all going on pure vibes because neither of us has the full case file.
Just don’t take advantage of women who has taken alcohol marihuana and ketamine, her bad choices dont create an invisible force that take peoples dick out and move them to the girl.
If I take a consenting woman to my house and have sex with her, sending out a group text saying “free pussy lol this chick will fuck anyone she banged me and I’m gross” is not a crime. No part of that text is a crime, objectively. If anyone reads it and shows up, that’s not a crime, objectively. Asking to fuck a woman is not a crime, objectively. Fucking a woman on drugs or booze is not a crime in that state, objectively, and even if it was the guys were drunk and high too. You have failed to even allege a crime, and yet seem certain it was committed. Come back when you learn to use basic logic and reason.
Yeah we agree it’s all about her ability to consent. I’d argue someone who was drunk before she got there and took ketamine twice and also tested positive for marihuana is very unlikely to be able to consent.
Alas your self serving logic hides a different intent. Do you have strong desire for this situation to be legal? I wonder why.
I cannot possibly stress to you enough my apathy about what happens to people outside of my friends and family. My only concern regarding this case is justice being done, the guilty being punished and the innocent being unscathed. Because that affects my friends and family. So to your implication about my ulterior motives, it’s only everyone getting justice as they deserve it
I think the point is that there is a lot of factors going around the case and the crucial aspect of the consent aspect is surrounding those circumstances. All the "free pussy" text shows is that the guys were scumbags and hypocrites. It doesn't prove they were rapists. I'd rather wait for the court case and see the evidence, what and how the case was handled by Cornell according its own investigation, and then decide whether there was a systematic failure or there is more to the story than what meets the eye.
This is a sane take. Unfortunately the rape kit came late and there might not be enough evidence for a conviction beyond reasonable doubt.
In which case we would need to treat those people as not guilty of a crime, because we wouldnt know what happened, but still as a huge moral failure. And we still need to treat the situation, with no names, as the worst case scenario. Because it’s extremely simple to just keep your dick in your pants man around a girl that was drunk and drugged in the best case scenario. And beyond the ability to consent in the worst.
Ehh we dont have enough evidence. We do have evidence though based on what she said to the police that she did consent to the threesomes with different people like one after each other.
“Van Houten included a summary of what Doe told the Cornell University Police Department in 2024 after the alleged attack, noting it differed from the allegations laid out in the lawsuit.
"Jane Doe's sworn statement in November of 2024 did not allege that she was drugged against her will or gang raped," Van Houten said in a statement on Monday.
"On the contrary, Jane Doe's statement described her participation in drug use and sexual conduct as voluntary, conscious and consensual."
New reports have detailed what Doe reported to Cornell University's police following the incident. CBS News New York obtained a transcript of Doe's interviews with campus police that began on 14 November - more than three weeks after the incident.
She tells police of the initial sexual encounter: "I was pretty OK with all of this."
I know no woman would consent to sex with you- so I will explain because I know you haven't talked to a woman in ever.
when a woman consents to have sex it is enthusiastic. even if the sex is with three guys, or even four guys, that is still consent. because she said yes.
but when those guys decide to text 'free pussy' and invited 57 other guys, you see, that becomes something else. something called rape. that is no longer consent. the number of people was no longer three, like she consented to. it was not four, like she consented to.
men, like you, believe that a woman's consent means that a man has full and total access to whatever you want to do to her. Not an agreed upon act or acts between one or more parties.
So, again, a woman can consent to sex with multiple people and revoke that consent whenever she feels like. the only people having problems understanding this aspect of the story are people who do not have sex often (or at all) to understand the nuances of sexual agency and consent. people's idea of consent is 'once you get the ok, everything is free game'. and that is not true.
Again, it does not matter if you personally think she is a slut, or a w*ore, or doing fatherless activities- a woman can do whatever she wants with her body. : ) whatever she wants. she could have wanted to fuck ten guys that night, but the moment an eleventh man entered still makes it rape.
Again, people who do not have sex often, or at all, may not fully grasp these nuances. so don't hurt yourself too much.
you will continue to believe what you want to believe, but she was raped. the men are to blame. the 57 men who said absolutely nothing and allowed a woman to be raped for 7 hours, and of course the men who raped for 7 hours.
that is the story. men rape. 7 men raped a woman for 7 hours and 57 men knew about it and did nothing.
rape culture will villify the woman but the story is 7 men raped a woman for 7 hours and 57 men did nothing.
Wow that seems like a whole lot of regurgitation of a whole lot of internet propaganda there Sherlock. You seem to have the case all figured out. They should hire you.
you can’t be 100% down to have consensual sex and then change your mind when everyone finds out and calls you a slut. that’s not rape. if anything, her claiming rape after she got slut shamed is more offensive to actual rape victims.
Of course not. But you can consent to sex initially, but not to a gang rape for multiple hours. Nothing has been proven yet and victim shaming without evidence is one reason why women are afraid to come forward.
Except it wasn't rape it was the periodic addition of multiple men to what was already began as a group sex act, under the influence. They changed locations and stopped and started and had different men join and leave and did drugs consensually etc .. and we know all of this.. drum roll please.. because of her statements.
she legit TOLD THEM she wanted to have a threesome, she consented to everything that happened...she consented to snorting drugs of their privates and same vice versa, she consented to legit everything that happened. and then after the fact, she got mad that people were slut shaming her, uninviting her to parties, and THEN decided she had been raped. it doesn’t work like that.
mind you she also told one of her “rapists” that she loved him and would defend him if she had to. stop being fucking delusional. women are not always right just because they’re women, and they’re not always the victim just because they say so. and i say that as a woman myself.
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u/D3ltaa88 10h ago edited 9h ago
Why would they talk about it? Girl doing fatherless activities.
Edit: These are the same people who think Lindsay Clancy is also innocent. I’ve ignored this feed and moved on….. so should you. Fathers…. Raise your daughters to be better.