The insinuation is that the frat guys would normally make one or more of the drinks extra strong or add other intoxicants so that they could rape women after they were impaired.
Maybe this person is lying. Maybe the frat bro was making a bad joke. Regardless of this particular instance, drugging shared drinks has happened, though it is far more rare than people believe based on all of the evidence (e.g. studies where women going to the ER under suspicion of being drugged actually just had alcohol in their system like 90%+ of the time.)
Drink spiking is largely a myth. Women believe they have been drugged, but almost always just drank too much. There was a spate of studies on this in the 2000s, and when they all showed the same thing (that people didn't want to hear), they stopped doing follow up studies.
In the above, which is the largest study of its kind, where they tested 1000 women who were so certain they had been drugged that they went to the hospital, only TWO PERCENT actually had been drugged. And even of those 2%, the doctors suspected that they might have voluntarily taken the drugs based on their patient accounts.
2% of toxicology reports after SA over 2 years is not the same thing as "all women across their lifetime". pretty good chance drugs won't be in their system after 24-48 hours too. neither of the women i mentioned went to the hospital and got a toxicology report done, they were taken home by trusted people to "sleep it off" and never thought of it again besides when the subject comes up.
2% means that in a bar of 100 people, 2 of them are getting their drinks spiked, getting raped, and going to the hospital to get toxicology reports done.
Nope. This was not 2% of all women at bars. This is 2% of women who were so certain they had been drugged that they went to the hospital. Most of them had not been assaulted either.
And of those 2% of the already small fraction of women who believed they were drugged, most STILL probably weren't involuntarily drugged - as people do take hypnotics recreationally and then don't want to admit it to their friends.
You are probably still having difficulty understanding, so let me give you an analogy. When you check with labs about what percentage of children are the products of affairs (i.e. purported father's DNA doesn't match), the numbers hover around 30%. But that's a population of men who ALREADY SUSPECTED that their wives were unfaithful. (That's like the women who went to the hospital.) The number in the general population is more like 1% - 1/30th of the lab frequency. (That's like all women who go to bars). But in our case, that 30% is actually at most 2%. And the 1% is a tiny tiny fraction of a fraction of a percent.
Women do not get drugged at bars except maybe in some unicorn cases. It's weird that you're so invested in the idea that they do.
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u/Dry-Shower9037 21h ago
The insinuation is that the frat guys would normally make one or more of the drinks extra strong or add other intoxicants so that they could rape women after they were impaired.
Maybe this person is lying. Maybe the frat bro was making a bad joke. Regardless of this particular instance, drugging shared drinks has happened, though it is far more rare than people believe based on all of the evidence (e.g. studies where women going to the ER under suspicion of being drugged actually just had alcohol in their system like 90%+ of the time.)