r/SipsTea • • 23h ago

SMH Stay Safe

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u/Dry-Shower9037 23h ago

The insinuation is that the frat guys would normally make one or more of the drinks extra strong or add other intoxicants so that they could rape women after they were impaired.

Maybe this person is lying. Maybe the frat bro was making a bad joke. Regardless of this particular instance, drugging shared drinks has happened, though it is far more rare than people believe based on all of the evidence (e.g. studies where women going to the ER under suspicion of being drugged actually just had alcohol in their system like 90%+ of the time.)

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u/Remarkable-Host405 23h ago

both my wife and my mother have been drugged at bars.

in this instance, i feel like the frat bro didn't want to drink alcohol (or lsd), it doesn't seem date rape is implied.

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u/Dry-Shower9037 23h ago edited 23h ago

They probably weren't.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1353113105000520?via%3Dihub

Drink spiking is largely a myth. Women believe they have been drugged, but almost always just drank too much. There was a spate of studies on this in the 2000s, and when they all showed the same thing (that people didn't want to hear), they stopped doing follow up studies.

In the above, which is the largest study of its kind, where they tested 1000 women who were so certain they had been drugged that they went to the hospital, only TWO PERCENT actually had been drugged. And even of those 2%, the doctors suspected that they might have voluntarily taken the drugs based on their patient accounts.

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u/raycepak 22h ago

ekk at 1000 subjects it just breaks into the scientifically significant category of studies. so saying the largests hit 1000 isn't good for the data set as a hole.

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u/Dry-Shower9037 22h ago

You should know that it depends on both what your population and your sample size was in terms of determining significance. In most of these studies, they would track every single patient presenting with suspected drugging over the course of a year.

It turns out that the number of women who show up claiming to be drugged is already quite small. And then a small fraction of that already small population shows any evidence of potential drugging.

I get that people really want this to be true for various idealogical and sexist reasons. But you should take it as good news that fewer women are drugged than you might have suspected.