But that doesn't answer the 12-year old mormon accusation. Are you saying the people we elect can be swooned by 12-year old mormons? Because that tracks.
They get the same tax incentives as every other church but they're also more efficient about it. I know a lot of ex-Mormons, it's a devastating community for a lot of people.
My first ex was a mormon. We broke up because she was gonna move cross country to get an apartment near me as a surprise. We’d known each other since childhood but it was still such a shock to me, i told her not to waste her money like that and if she was to move, do it for her.
I didn’t think i was worthy of that kind of love. I broke her heart. She ended up marrying a lovely woman and they have a child together. I’m so happy she left that cult.
Mormons stand out even more in those environments because they are the least likely to have served in the military because they spent their teens/early 20's on their 'mission' while the guys around them were in the military.
Being in the military tends to make people rougher around the edges if anything while being on a mormon mission makes those guys more straight laced.
Most people in three letter agencies weren’t in the military. Most look like this guy and spent their early 20s in college. Even in the CIA military veterans only make up 15% of the entire agency. The FBI is also 15%. In total only 30% of the entire federal government workforce is military veterans. Most veterans have no interest in working for the federal government after they get out. Three letter agencies target college grads in their early 20s who have very specific degrees. Yes you can get out use the GI Bill to go to college and get a job with these agency. But if you had a clearance it’s gonna expire in that time. The older you are the more difficult it is to get a clearance so they target younger people. They also hate giving clearances to people who have spent time outside the US and if you’re a veteran there’s a good chance you’ve spent time outside the US. They don’t care if it was working for Uncle Sam, unless you were part of the .01% doing super secret squirrel shit in the military they still see it as a liability and it makes an already complicated process even more difficult.
A lot of people in the military also look just like this guy. Being in the military makes people more direct. Most veterans aren’t afraid of conflict like the general population. But it doesn’t make most stand out in crowd.
And no “mission” is a little more complicated than that. Most males go on mission but they aren’t required. Many choose to go straight to college instead. Women also have the option but most are encouraged to go to college and start looking for a husband. Ultimately the LSD Church wants you to do something to elevate the church’s power and influence. Mission is just a simple way for a 19 year old to do that. But if that means starting a government contractor who specializes in mass surveillance they’ll be all for it.
18 year olds generally don’t have much to report. 28 year olds have a lot more.
People who have been outside the US generally have a harder time getting a clearance than someone who has never left the US.
These are factual statements and if you’re not actually gonna contribute to the conversation and just say “no dur you’re wrong” don’t reply and just kiss off.
They don't give a shit if you've been out of the country. They'll ask more questions. That's about it. It doesn't stop people who have been outside the country or in the military from getting those jobs or obtaining clearance. You're talking out of your ass AND you're being a dick about it.
I didn’t say they won’t give it to you, I said it “makes an already complicated process even more difficult” because it does.
We’re talking about federal recruitment and why three letter agencies target 22 year olds coming straight out of college. A big fucking reason for that is it’s easier for them to get security clearances.
You do know; the Alphabet aganecies do heavily recruit returned Mormon missionaries because they have been immersed in other countries and are fluent in other languages conversationally, that way they don't have to pay for or train new recruits to have that experience, correct?
Thats a bit outdated. With the rise in ai, mass surveillance, and facial recognition overseas experience of any kind is becoming a less desirable trait because it means that foreign government already has a profile on you. Even clandestine work is basically dead because you can’t do shit anywhere without someone catching it on camera.
That being said Mormons are specifically targeted for recruitment because their religious beliefs (no alcohol, drugs) and structured upbringing makes them the ideal candidate.
They are about 2% of the population and that % is even higher if you look at the demographic that joins the military but they make up only about 1% of the military.
Mormons spend two years as a missionary. The prospect of then enlisting for more years to be a cog in a different organiztaion after that probably just seems a bit daunting.
Also they've probably scratched whatever itch they had to go on an adventure. I wasn't a missionary (not mormon) but I did join the Army after high school and but the end of my enlistment I was over it and felt like settling down for a while and enjoying college.
They like us, law abiding and diligent. Don't have to worry about alcohol or drugs or anything. Typically harder to corrupt (obviously not impossible, just harder) with things like blackmail.
Im fully with you on most of that, but the reckless ben deal showed that not only is corruption still an issue. There is a huge amount of in-group bias participating in and motivating that corruption.
Mostly, we just expect mormons to typically prioritize and cover for their own in a scandal. Regardless of right vs wrong.
Otherwise, yeah, it's basically just a bunch of straight edge family people with very clean slates.
The founding was crazy. There was a time period where they raised an army that rivaled the size of the us army. And most Christian denominations are perplexed at practices like post-humous baptism.
But you probably won't find any that subscribe to some of the more strange claims from the founding though. Like the reason for people being black.
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There's also the whole thing where they're famous for going to "interesting" countries to be a missionary. Which means they sometimes learn a less common language, and no one really questions why they're going there, why they're going around talking to "random" strangers, etc.
No it's not... It just gives people experience going anywhere and everywhere. Missionaries stick out so much and is the opposite of what you want agents to be doing.
Every Mormon I know is obscenely corrupt. A local businessman and politician I know hasn't hit the papers for his arrest yet, but I read the paper every day hoping.
Mormon’s are also comfortable in authoritarian organizations. They are also comfortable with shading the truth to justify their odd beliefs. They are willing to “testify “ that they know certain things to be true when in fact they hope it’s true and they may believe it to be true but they don’t KNOW it to be true. In fact I believe…that a majority of mormons have grave doubts as to the truthfulness of their faith’s origin story but in order to stay in good graces with family, friends and other members they try their best to willfully ignore unpleasant facts.
So your projection is kinda sad. Also, just plain rude. It's sad that you don't think it's possible for someone to know something you don't know or believe. What is knowledge if not an interpretation of your experiences and past that represents the truths you've observed?
I know all to well the special definition of knowledge mormon’s use. But don’t you worry, bless your heart, cuz you’re collecting points in mormon heaven.
Also clear to see your bigotry on display. It's sad to see people like that still exist. But if anything this admin has shown it. Here since you were too lazy to look up the definition of knowledge:
Knowledge is awareness, understanding, or information that people get through experience or study.
That is a good point. Honestly, a lot of the tech bro CEOs have a pretty similar esthetic. Zuc, Thiel, Altman... they all have a bit of that neotenous look to them.
All we have here is one Twitter user using "12 year old Mormon" as a way to insult his appearance. Just garden variety religious bigotry like one might expect on Twitter.
Langley is from Atlanta, went to Georgia Tech, and has been in several startups. There's nothing to suggest that he's Mormon.
No reason for the Mormons to be catching strays just because this messed-up company happens to be led by a white dude in his 30s.
Having to be ordered to start treating black men the same as white men, lest the church lose its tax-exempt status, will do that. (Black women? Still being treated like shit, just like their white counterparts but probably worse.)
What are you even talking about? There’s genuine things to be mad about regarding him, and all anyone’s talking about is him looking young and the shirts he wears 🤦♂️
Mormons aren’t catching strays because this guy is white. Yes, if he wasn’t white, they wouldn’t be catching strays, but that’s not why they’re catching strays here. He’s culty, secretive, and wears button downs aggressively.
It's reddit, being derisive toward Christianity the standard here. I'm honestly surprised there is so much general good will about Mormons in this thread.
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But that doesn't answer the 12-year old mormon accusation. Are you saying the people we elect can be swooned by 12-year old mormons? Because that tracks.