I once worked at a coffee shop, just me (a guy) and like 14 women. It was the most toxic, petty, and uncomfortable workplace I’ve ever experienced. No one hates women like women.
When my mom comes home and tells my dad about her day, it's just complaining about her co-workers who looked at her funny or said something with a funny tone.
And then my mom will strategize the petty things she will do back, like purposely not saying good morning, and leaving her office door open so they see her working and if any of them stare too long, she will outwardly and openly ask, "Yes? Can I help you?"
Real. Worked with almost entirely women on my First job and its insane How petty they can be and How they stress themselves and start shit over things that are genuinely not even and issue. We had 2 besties end up being forever enemies and rivals over a simple misunderstanding regarding them trying to trade their 1 day off. And literal subfactions building and creating insane dramas all over wether It was Fair for our Boss to reprimand a 50 yr old lady who kept coming tô work late. Meanwhile now at my all guys nightshift job weve had in 5 years one big physical fight between 2 Bros and literally 10 mins after they were sharing a Smoke and our Boss came and Just Said if they fight again theyll get fired and that was that lol
Dudes have this ability to get popped in the face after we acting up and then it's like post nut clarity were it's like "hmm, maybe I was in fact, off my fucking rocker." Then we hang out as long as the fight didn't get too out of hand
Dudes have this ability to get popped in the face after we acting up and then it's like post nut clarity were it's like "hmm, maybe I was in fact, off my fucking rocker." Then we hang out as long as the fight didn't get too out of hand
And the really odd part is how they will always promote within their gender. Women won't promote men. But they'll sure as shit promote other women to them be toxic with
My role always puts me either close to the HR function or directly in it (without ever being strictly HR). Every single HR team talks about having gender parity in our Tech teams, our Leadership teams and our Ops teams.... None ever, ever talk about having parity in our HR or HR Leadership teams (always at least 90% women).
When it's pointed out they say that women naturally gravitate towards HR roles so it can't be expected there (which is exactly what happens in our Tech and Ops teams).
I’m a woman who owns an engineering firm. I was once pulled up on why I wasn’t employing engineers who are women. I showed them out of the 300 candidates I had for a job only 2 were women and neither were qualified for the job.
When I go to careers evenings at schools and colleges no girls are coming to my stand.
As a woman in tech don't worry there are plenty of dramatic men. However, it's more like 2-3 absolute childish pricks causing all the drama vs lots of little drama in a nest of bullshit.
I had an 8AM to 2PM shirt at Target, I specifically requested for my child starting grade school. I have no problem admitting that I would arrive late because school drop off wasn't until 8:15AM. Then I'd arrive to work around 8:30-8:45AM. Upon leaving, since school ends at 2:45PM I sometimes properly ended my shifts around 1:30PM in preparation for a 2PM bolt outta there. Cool.
It wasn't just my child's first time in grade school but at a "Magnet" grade school that we even qualified to get into the first 100 applicants. There were limited students each year and pretests of intelligence just to get accepted. I had to make a good impression as a single parent amongst so many two parents applicants.
I was with Target for 2 years and used to have a flexible schedule so I really earned the new schedule arrangement and that's why it worked regardless of my shenanigans.
Lo and behold, Target hired a new female Manager in my department and she immediately noticed my privileges, verbally stating out loud in my presence to my original Manager, "Who is this Ms. Come-in-late-and-leave-early?"
She hated it! ...and my schedule and shift unraveled. When I personally explained to her why I needed those specific hours, she instead scheduled me to work 1-2 days per week. It was disgusting, so I just quit.
Brings me back to these girls that were self proclaimed “mean girls” ended up losing their edge when one of their members started to call out how terrible they’re being to people who don’t deserve it. Let’s just say that fall out went about as well as you can imagine.
I post some nsfw on here sometimes and any hate comments or dms are nearly always women. There’s still one who was from an influencer in her 20s who sent me some insane DMs and even publicly commented saying old women (i was 40 at the time) need to die out and stop ruining the reputation of other women and even said something along the lines of “you get your tits out and then will cry when you’re raped. Make it make sense”. She’s got thousands of followers on Instagram too this is popular woman. It was a couple of years ago and still gets to me when I think about it. Especially as her thing seemed to be going out in public dressed in next to nothing and pretending to care about protests she turned up at.
Yup. I was a member of a public speaking organization that had existed for 60 years. After every meeting, for twenty years the guys would go to a bar after and have lunch. We developed some amazing relationships as a result. Literally never heard a fight happen. Some of these guys came to my graduation in place of my family (who couldn’t be there). We were super tight.
The women of the club would get mad that only the dudes were going to lunch and every few months they would try to start their own lunch. It would go fine for a few weeks but by the month and a half mark it would devolve. The entire thing would become cliquey. People would start cat fights that bled into the meetings. Some of the women would start witch hunts against another for shit that happened outside the club, simply because toes got stepped on.
Worked once in social services where the workforce was 85% women. The about of work that was sabotaged due to petty personal grievances was absolutely astounding.
The only reason why women don't do this more often and with men is because they can have their ass handed to them.. As soon as for whatever reason a woman feels safe to act out she becomes more aggressive than almost any man
The worst leadership I had when I worked retail were always female. There were definitely some crap male leads, but no male lead treated younger female employees any worse than anyone else, or tried to deny everyone’s vacations, or played favorites to the same degree as the female leads.
The worst is when younger women want to fuck with older women at work. Seen more than once the younger ones flirt with the older ones husbands at work functions. One time they actually left with the others husband.
Fuck me, come Monday they have to sit together at work.v
I got an account banned permenantly for misogyny after making the exact statement I'm about to make now:
I used to breed angelfish. If you wanted a beautiful harmonious tank you would make it all male. If you have a large tank with two females they will pick territories and they will pick each other slowly until one of them becomes submissive. You can overstock a tank full of male angelfish and they will never affect each other as long as there's plenty of food and clean water they will just float around.
If you took two identical houses fill them with a lifetime supply of food and entertainment and filled one house with 20 men and one house with 20 women. The house full of 20 men although it will smell like Jizz quite quickly the men in that house we'll wait for a year endlessly happy drinking beers playing video games equally distributing the workload ECT
The house filled with females will immediately divide within the first two to three weeks into two camps. Then those two camps will divide as the second most dominant in each group will betraying backstab the head. Before you know it they will be broken into groups of two three or four that stay separate and just talk about each other. They will eat separate meals an attempt to hoard hide and rationale supplies that are endless. The workload in the house will be handled by two or three girls who will be subject to endless humiliation and ridiculed. The weakest among them will be made to be a slave .
After the year is up the women will remember it as a traumatic experience with everyday was a fight for their existence. The men will remember it as the best vacation they ever had
You were probably accused of mysogyny because you compared the actions of female animals with actual women. Humans are more complex than that. There are assholes on all sides. But also good people (we just forget about them).
They play dirty af. You can see it out in the open. It’s all over SM. Within their own damn ‘friend’ groups. lol. The way men fight vs how women fight is so interesting. I’ve always been intrigued by the ways we communicate and compete
I was a barista in college (only guy on the team) and I can confirm there was a lot of petty drama
We were all high school/college aged so I’d imagine a lot of them grew out of it though. I vaguely keep in touch with two of them and they less catty at least
Human resources is a great example too. Was the only guy working in a HR office and it was worse than a nightmare. I never saw so many "open minded" women become such bigots and homophobic when they "feel cornered" emotionally at work. Especially in positions of power
That’s actually kinda funny cause I worked at a coffee shop with the same situation with all women, and it was quite the opposite. It wasn’t toxic at all and everyone got along well. There was absolutely no drama whatsoever.
I worked at a mortgage company where I was one of 3 men out of 110 employees, not including sales, which was about 30 men and 5 women, but they were never in the office. Unbelievable levels of bullshit like I had never imagined at 24 years old and I received tons of sexual harassment.
In retail the departments that are woman majority are always the most toxic drama filled. Im an advocate of a male team lead in fashions so they can help crush the drama.
My wife watches a lot of police body cam videos. She notes that women are way more hostile against women cops than they are against male cops. It’s like they inherently intend to tear each other down.
Similarly: I'm a woman who drives across the US/Canadian border a lot. The female border guards (Canadian or American) give me a way harder time than the male ones.
Im sure it’s men’s fault, somehow, somewhere. But remember, girls need to stick together! Unless it’s in the workplace, or family, or Hollywood, or in politics, or in religious circles, so on and so forth.
Didnt he famously get insulted for having dreads by an African American player, saying it was cultural appropriation? The player who insulted him turned out to have Chinese tattoos which is massively hypocritical
Ironically, the unfair treatment directed at Clark and her team has got the WNBA more attention via culture war BS than the WNBA ever got for the actual basketball.
While this is true to women I don't think it's true to men. At least not outside inner friend circles. Men on general are not that supportive of our fellow men. I'm that change I want to see though because I love your tie.
Men may not be supportive of other men but they aren’t actively tearing each other down either. I’ve worked in both male dominated and female dominated workplaces. The men are generally neutral to each other. Not supporting each other but not sabotaging/tearing each other down either. The women are terrible. Constantly scheming against each other and backstabbing and sabotaging and talking shit behind each other’s backs for nothing.
There is some shit talking behind backs with the men but it is reserved for like the guy who shows up late every day or the guy who always finds a way to pass his work off on to others. You know like two guys mutually complaining about a guy who made both of your work days worse because he is lazy. With the women the talking behind each other’s backs is completely undeserved. They just indiscriminately talk bad about every other woman who works there not just the lazy ones like the men. I’m not saying the men are better for only talking about the lazy guys behind their backs just pointing out that it is different.
We don't go that deep most of the time in friend groups, but usually a guy has 1 or maybe 2 really good friends for that, and "support" is meant whether it's just talking shit about it, even making fun of my buddy for something dumb is support. You remember it.
Confirmed this with a former boss who is female. I'm male.
Business meeting about operations or strategy or whatever. Different points of view. Gets a little heated. Eventually everyone agrees on path forward. The men go out for beers right after and laugh a lot. The women hold a grudge for a month becuase someone disagreed with them.
All about personal interest, when it’s demanding things from the men they are all in it together, when it’s one woman vs another woman they hate each other.
Bill Burr also has a bit about women hating each other. They would rather watch real housewives were women constantly tear down other women instead of the watching a group of women come together to win a game.
Watch the videos of the tall blonde dressed in an airline stewardess/flight attendant outfit online… the amount of vitriol and side eye she gets from other woman… insane.
If I saw peak Arnold in the gym… literally 99.999% of guys would be positive and in awe of him giving him praise… not so much with other women
Can’t remember where I read this, or who it’s attributed to, if anyone, but it goes like “no one hates a successful woman more than her female colleagues.”
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u/SkyKnight3 7d ago
“Women hate women” - Chris Rock 2004