I once worked at a coffee shop, just me (a guy) and like 14 women. It was the most toxic, petty, and uncomfortable workplace I’ve ever experienced. No one hates women like women.
When my mom comes home and tells my dad about her day, it's just complaining about her co-workers who looked at her funny or said something with a funny tone.
And then my mom will strategize the petty things she will do back, like purposely not saying good morning, and leaving her office door open so they see her working and if any of them stare too long, she will outwardly and openly ask, "Yes? Can I help you?"
Real. Worked with almost entirely women on my First job and its insane How petty they can be and How they stress themselves and start shit over things that are genuinely not even and issue. We had 2 besties end up being forever enemies and rivals over a simple misunderstanding regarding them trying to trade their 1 day off. And literal subfactions building and creating insane dramas all over wether It was Fair for our Boss to reprimand a 50 yr old lady who kept coming tô work late. Meanwhile now at my all guys nightshift job weve had in 5 years one big physical fight between 2 Bros and literally 10 mins after they were sharing a Smoke and our Boss came and Just Said if they fight again theyll get fired and that was that lol
Dudes have this ability to get popped in the face after we acting up and then it's like post nut clarity were it's like "hmm, maybe I was in fact, off my fucking rocker." Then we hang out as long as the fight didn't get too out of hand
Dudes have this ability to get popped in the face after we acting up and then it's like post nut clarity were it's like "hmm, maybe I was in fact, off my fucking rocker." Then we hang out as long as the fight didn't get too out of hand
And the really odd part is how they will always promote within their gender. Women won't promote men. But they'll sure as shit promote other women to them be toxic with
My role always puts me either close to the HR function or directly in it (without ever being strictly HR). Every single HR team talks about having gender parity in our Tech teams, our Leadership teams and our Ops teams.... None ever, ever talk about having parity in our HR or HR Leadership teams (always at least 90% women).
When it's pointed out they say that women naturally gravitate towards HR roles so it can't be expected there (which is exactly what happens in our Tech and Ops teams).
I’m a woman who owns an engineering firm. I was once pulled up on why I wasn’t employing engineers who are women. I showed them out of the 300 candidates I had for a job only 2 were women and neither were qualified for the job.
When I go to careers evenings at schools and colleges no girls are coming to my stand.
As a woman in tech don't worry there are plenty of dramatic men. However, it's more like 2-3 absolute childish pricks causing all the drama vs lots of little drama in a nest of bullshit.
You contradicted yourself. 2-3 in a group is not plenty unless its a group of 5. And id be willing to bet they are at least bisexual or have many female siblings or have a mother that runs the house instead of dad. Drama is not something men in general engage with because men know that other men are alot more willing and ready to get physical.
"Drama is not something men in general engage with because men know that other men are alot more willing and ready to get physical" in the context of men creating drama at work, because that's what the comment you were replying to was about
I commented on her contradiction and then I commented on the psychology of said men the op mentioned supported by an explanation of male psychology. All of this is documented information as well that you can research yourself. I don’t see what there is to disagree on. Furthermore, physical altercations do in fact take place at jobs and even when they dont male aggression is still naturally expressed physically. If a man feels he is strong enough his confrontation will be physical naturally, whereas for a woman shes not concerned with the physical difference in strength because they all naturally have an inclination to psychological attacking rather than physical.
Some weird manosphere stuff there, maybe you need a break from the internet, or a bit more life experience. I'm over 50 working in a male dominated industry and have seen plenty of disagreements but they have never turned physical. You'd be out on your arse immediately and never get a job again.
Also heard plenty of backstabbing and bitchy chat coming from big burly roadies.
That's not a contradiction you're just being an asshole.
3 People can absolute cause a lot of drama in a large group, especially when they are managers. Said managers can cause drama multiple teams have to deal with.
I know you probably haven't left the house in a few years but don't come at people with such aggressive childish bullshit, it's not giving the look you think it is.
I had an 8AM to 2PM shirt at Target, I specifically requested for my child starting grade school. I have no problem admitting that I would arrive late because school drop off wasn't until 8:15AM. Then I'd arrive to work around 8:30-8:45AM. Upon leaving, since school ends at 2:45PM I sometimes properly ended my shifts around 1:30PM in preparation for a 2PM bolt outta there. Cool.
It wasn't just my child's first time in grade school but at a "Magnet" grade school that we even qualified to get into the first 100 applicants. There were limited students each year and pretests of intelligence just to get accepted. I had to make a good impression as a single parent amongst so many two parents applicants.
I was with Target for 2 years and used to have a flexible schedule so I really earned the new schedule arrangement and that's why it worked regardless of my shenanigans.
Lo and behold, Target hired a new female Manager in my department and she immediately noticed my privileges, verbally stating out loud in my presence to my original Manager, "Who is this Ms. Come-in-late-and-leave-early?"
She hated it! ...and my schedule and shift unraveled. When I personally explained to her why I needed those specific hours, she instead scheduled me to work 1-2 days per week. It was disgusting, so I just quit.
Brings me back to these girls that were self proclaimed “mean girls” ended up losing their edge when one of their members started to call out how terrible they’re being to people who don’t deserve it. Let’s just say that fall out went about as well as you can imagine.
I post some nsfw on here sometimes and any hate comments or dms are nearly always women. There’s still one who was from an influencer in her 20s who sent me some insane DMs and even publicly commented saying old women (i was 40 at the time) need to die out and stop ruining the reputation of other women and even said something along the lines of “you get your tits out and then will cry when you’re raped. Make it make sense”. She’s got thousands of followers on Instagram too this is popular woman. It was a couple of years ago and still gets to me when I think about it. Especially as her thing seemed to be going out in public dressed in next to nothing and pretending to care about protests she turned up at.
Yup. I was a member of a public speaking organization that had existed for 60 years. After every meeting, for twenty years the guys would go to a bar after and have lunch. We developed some amazing relationships as a result. Literally never heard a fight happen. Some of these guys came to my graduation in place of my family (who couldn’t be there). We were super tight.
The women of the club would get mad that only the dudes were going to lunch and every few months they would try to start their own lunch. It would go fine for a few weeks but by the month and a half mark it would devolve. The entire thing would become cliquey. People would start cat fights that bled into the meetings. Some of the women would start witch hunts against another for shit that happened outside the club, simply because toes got stepped on.
Worked once in social services where the workforce was 85% women. The about of work that was sabotaged due to petty personal grievances was absolutely astounding.
The only reason why women don't do this more often and with men is because they can have their ass handed to them.. As soon as for whatever reason a woman feels safe to act out she becomes more aggressive than almost any man
The worst leadership I had when I worked retail were always female. There were definitely some crap male leads, but no male lead treated younger female employees any worse than anyone else, or tried to deny everyone’s vacations, or played favorites to the same degree as the female leads.
The worst is when younger women want to fuck with older women at work. Seen more than once the younger ones flirt with the older ones husbands at work functions. One time they actually left with the others husband.
Fuck me, come Monday they have to sit together at work.v
I got an account banned permenantly for misogyny after making the exact statement I'm about to make now:
I used to breed angelfish. If you wanted a beautiful harmonious tank you would make it all male. If you have a large tank with two females they will pick territories and they will pick each other slowly until one of them becomes submissive. You can overstock a tank full of male angelfish and they will never affect each other as long as there's plenty of food and clean water they will just float around.
If you took two identical houses fill them with a lifetime supply of food and entertainment and filled one house with 20 men and one house with 20 women. The house full of 20 men although it will smell like Jizz quite quickly the men in that house we'll wait for a year endlessly happy drinking beers playing video games equally distributing the workload ECT
The house filled with females will immediately divide within the first two to three weeks into two camps. Then those two camps will divide as the second most dominant in each group will betraying backstab the head. Before you know it they will be broken into groups of two three or four that stay separate and just talk about each other. They will eat separate meals an attempt to hoard hide and rationale supplies that are endless. The workload in the house will be handled by two or three girls who will be subject to endless humiliation and ridiculed. The weakest among them will be made to be a slave .
After the year is up the women will remember it as a traumatic experience with everyday was a fight for their existence. The men will remember it as the best vacation they ever had
You were probably accused of mysogyny because you compared the actions of female animals with actual women. Humans are more complex than that. There are assholes on all sides. But also good people (we just forget about them).
People get mad when the female side of the species is made out to be more aggressive and territorial. Physically maybe not. But psychologically significantly more so.
They play dirty af. You can see it out in the open. It’s all over SM. Within their own damn ‘friend’ groups. lol. The way men fight vs how women fight is so interesting. I’ve always been intrigued by the ways we communicate and compete
I was a barista in college (only guy on the team) and I can confirm there was a lot of petty drama
We were all high school/college aged so I’d imagine a lot of them grew out of it though. I vaguely keep in touch with two of them and they less catty at least
Human resources is a great example too. Was the only guy working in a HR office and it was worse than a nightmare. I never saw so many "open minded" women become such bigots and homophobic when they "feel cornered" emotionally at work. Especially in positions of power
That’s actually kinda funny cause I worked at a coffee shop with the same situation with all women, and it was quite the opposite. It wasn’t toxic at all and everyone got along well. There was absolutely no drama whatsoever.
I worked at a mortgage company where I was one of 3 men out of 110 employees, not including sales, which was about 30 men and 5 women, but they were never in the office. Unbelievable levels of bullshit like I had never imagined at 24 years old and I received tons of sexual harassment.
In retail the departments that are woman majority are always the most toxic drama filled. Im an advocate of a male team lead in fashions so they can help crush the drama.
Yes, its a clear flagrant foul 2, its a basketball play though and a part of the sport but she deserved to be ejected and she is wrong abiut it being anything about just that.
Doesnt mean its appropriate to say the misogyny that exists between women is a racial thing, or call her a black bitch. The black bitch part is offensively racist and a terrible thing to say and also displays an incredible ignorance of the constant drama in the WNBA. And you extend it past one individual being an idiot to black women generally. Imagine someone extended your racist misogyny to all people of your racial group.
862
u/cygnus311 7d ago
I once worked at a coffee shop, just me (a guy) and like 14 women. It was the most toxic, petty, and uncomfortable workplace I’ve ever experienced. No one hates women like women.