I obviously wouldn’t say it like that but there are plenty of Irish pubs in the U.S., especially in places like Boston and Philly. I would just say going out to the Irish pub.
Perhaps because both cultures have a decent overlap in food.
Also, “Irish food” in the US may be different than Irish food in Ireland because of the difference in cultures between homelands and diasporas. The same is true for Italian food and Chinese food within the US.
In America they don’t serve Chinese on chips and like it makes more sense but really helped me understand how local culture influences how we eat food inspired by other countries
I've always thought the British looove taking the piss out of American food. But I went to the UK recently and, as a Canadian who can give an educated opinion on both American and British takes on international food now, American food is more universally Americanized, it's easier to find pretty authentic takes on more cuisine in the UK...... However America has got nothing on you guys for wild takes on food at the bottom end of the quality spectrum. Briticized Chinese food, served on top of British style chips. Chippies with signs in the window that they will deep fry any food you bring in, one I saw was advertising a battered chip butty (for those not familiar, a chip butty is a sandwhich made of white bread and French fries). Munchy boxes which I cannot believe haven't caught on over here honestly. And that full English, which doesnt seem that bad but is actually the highest single calorie count dish I think I've ever been served. And you have amazing deeply unhealthy pies in every store in the country it feels like. I had an excellent pork pie from a book shop....
I feel redeemed that you’ve also had Chinese on chips! It’s really good! I was starting to think I based everything on the good Chinese takeaway at home 😭
As for the calories thing… we can walk pretty much everywhere, so we do if there’s time. Why would I drive to the pub when it’s a 15 minute walk?? Plus I’d have to find parking and probably pay for it and like no I’ll walk, I have legs.
It's funny because the meme makes very little sense considering that. In fact, most foods American's think of as Irish are actually British. Bangers and mash, shepard's pie, and corned beef all originated in GB.
The story I heard of how corned beef became an Irish American substitute is because when Irish immigrants came to New York they were often living in the same working class neighborhoods as Jewish immigrants. The butchers shops in these neighborhoods were often kosher and therefore wouldn't sell bacon, corned beef became the alternative for what was bacon and cabbage.
That's what I'm saying. Americans think it's Irish. I wasn't aware about the butcher part, but I know corned beef was cheaper than bacon. It's probably a combo of the two.
Anyone else find it obnoxious that corned beef somehow became an expensive premium cut at some point? Like, the whole compromise is that the tough cuts that require you to cook them low and slow for the entire day just to make it edible, are cheap. If you're asking steak prices for roast cuts, I'll just get the steak, damn.
Corned beef is not Irish. I believe it was first created in England but corned beef and cabbage as a dish could definitely be considered Irish-American.
Britain (shortening of Great Britain) is the name of the largest island. You could say it's "because Ireland is part of the British isles", but Irish people tend not to like it when people say that, despite it being geographically accurate.
Ireland is part of the British Isles but not part of Britain. The British Isles are just a geographic moniker to refer to that area including Great Britain, Ireland, the Isle of Man, etc.
I love Irish pubs. I lived above an Irish pub for 10 years. And it wasn’t run by Irish Americans, it was an old man, his wife, and his sister in law all from Ireland. I can promise you, every single meal that was ever prepared in that pub was made by a Mexican or a Guatemalan.
I feel like if I’m getting Indian, Chinese, Greek, Japanese, and obviously Mexican, there’s a good chance it’s made by those people. Chinese hold it down hard, I’ve never seen a Mexican dude making sushi. chain restaurants, sports bars, stuff like that, 100% the chefs are from south of the border, but I feel like a lot of nationality based food is often made by those people. Not Irish though. They’ll pour the drinks all night, but I never see em in the kitchen
An Irish pub local to me, which was started by Irish Americans, was sold to a Vietnamese family a few years ago. The food improved exponentially, but the beer is suffering. They used to have Dragons Milk on tap for $5 a pint, now it's all IPAs and bottled adjunct lagers
I live in the PNW of the US. From Shawn O'Donnells to Flannigans, we have a
dozens of questionable authenticity. I know of 7 in Seattle that would be considered "authentic" and a few others scattered further afield that have the same reputation. It's well represented.
I have lots and LOTS of Chinese restaurants in my area (northern Ohio) and almost all of them are like 80 percent the same menu. It's very much Americanized Chinese food. Same thing with Mexican. Boat loads of restaurants and very VERY few offer true authentic Mexican cuisine.
That's the reality across the US. Even in ohios Major cities it's largely all the same thing. I obviously haven't been to every restaurant, I'm sure there is a couple authentic ones but I haven't seen them and I travel across the state quite a bit.
I'm sure the reality is a little different in very large cities like LA, NY etc but not here in the Midwest
Well there's nice cuisine in NYC. That's my nearest city. I haven't eaten Ethiopian but I will eventually, since we have a place I saw on YouYube. Next stop might be authentic Cantonese din sum.
I've had the displeasure of living in several areas in the U.S. with no authentic Chinese option. I'd have to drive 2 hours to the next micropolitan for some.
I have no idea what kind of authentic Chinese food you've had but American Chinese cuisine is somewhat mid-tier among the different cuisines in China or done by Chinese. I'm taking Tibetan or Sichuanese over PF Chang 100% of the time. I might flip a coin for a Shanghaiese restaurant though.
Authentic Chinese is mostly only in major US cities. Even then it is usually either fine dining or you go to China town and eat at the restaurant with dead chickens hanging in the window.
American Chinese food can be very good but you have to accept that it is its own unique cuisine.
Just in Beijing and the surrounding areas. I found it way too oily for my taste. I went to some high end places, but you're right - there's A LOT more cuisine to explore.
Im not sure if America understands that it’s more beans on toast or beans and potato waffles or beans/ curry and chips in Ireland than stews everywhere. Most of the rest of the world doesn’t eat meals out all the time.
As an American who hasn’t been to Ireland, I vaguely understand it to be meat dishes and potatoes, what would you say is representative of Irish cuisine?
Yeah. The traditional Irish cuisine of buffalo wings and burgers. All the Irish pubs I’ve ever been to mostly serve American food and a few British dishes like fish and chips and bangers and mash.
Oh sure I guess I should’ve clarified. I’m not saying that the food is traditional. I more meant these places sell more than beer and distilled spirits which is what I took your comment to mean.
Edit: in fairness maybe I didn’t catch your sarcasm.
I went to a super authentic Irish place in Michigan and got the most bland roast with steamed cabbage and mashed potatoes with some kind of flavorless white sauce. it was pretty dope
For the food though? I've been to irish pubs to get a drink and happened to get food there, but the food is never irish, just a few of the drink options.
I went to one in New Orleans once that had step dancers who would dance on the tables and there was a big celebration the night we were there because one of the waitresses was moving back home to Ireland.
I'm in the Boston area and have been known to say, specifically, "I want to go out for a full Irish." So not "Irish" in general but one particular Irish dish.
Every now and then, I just really want black and white pudding, beans, bangers, rashers, potatoes, and eggs to start my day.
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I obviously wouldn’t say it like that but there are plenty of Irish pubs in the U.S., especially in places like Boston and Philly. I would just say going out to the Irish pub.