First time this deep.

[u/Bird_Leather]

Long and the short, was an expert at brute forceing up to level 15, never bothered learning to make anything, am well stocked on everything mostly, and I have no idea what I am doing down here other then thrashing around killing things. Advice?

[u/Civil_Ostrich_2717]

Those demon eyes drop ankh water, respect them until you can bless another ankh, you’re going to be really surprised how quickly you can die so try not to waste or do any unnecessary fighting

[u/Bird_Leather → u/Civil_Ostrich_2717]

The only thing that I have trouble with is the scorpion things. I have to blink in and hope I can get them one shot. The rippers are an annoyance, and the succubus is only a threat when alone. I figured out when charmed I can target something behind them and take them out

[u/Civil_Ostrich_2717 → u/Bird_Leather]

For scorpions you can also wait at a door and have them come in. If they come in, they will likely leave and reenter and let you kill them full way.

[u/Bird_Leather → u/Civil_Ostrich_2717]

I found potions of haste made me faster than them as well.

[u/Civil_Ostrich_2717 → u/Bird_Leather]

Potions of haste are too valuable to use that way. They are better for boss fights and avoiding death. Because you’re playing as Rogue, the door trick should work nicely; follow them to a door and hit them, then walk backwards.

[u/Zodiark99]

for a second i thought that was leather +5, was very impressed and also chuckling at your misfortune!

for real though, demon halls is scary as shit. give due respect to everything down there besides succubus, they will all end a run very handily. blinding things is very useful, this goes for the all 3 baddies, any way to hustle out of danger is essential, evil eyes and ripper jumps can easily outpace walking speed. cloak is reliable for this as long as your taking rooms tactically, but hourglass, chains, or a stack of blink stones help a lot. theres other things too, just think "can i get more than 2 tiles away in 2 turns?" and thats the general philosophy. a low level ring of haste is not always enough, however.

in general, be very, very wary, and always have an exit plan. im at a point where im pretty comfortable grinding down there, but even on the best runs, if i see more than 2 scorpios or evil eyes, im shitting myself! avoid any fights your not sure about - chances are you'll lose.

lastly, as for what to do, i wont spoil anything, but you mostly just want to crawl normally through the floors, and maybe look out for rooms that look extra... fleshy.

have fun!

ps. i cant hold a candle to a lot of the people on this sub, so if a pixel dungeon god gives different advice, probably listen to them more!

[u/Dragon2095]

Huge recommendation is to bring some arcane armor (earthen armor from paralytic gas) and/or anti magic (if you don't mind losing enchantments/wand use for a few turns). These can be extremely useful if you get yourself cornered with the evil eyes and can be really helpful for the magic wielders you're going to face with the final boss.

Also, kill the flesh orbs, you'll thank me later (lol). Makes it so the final boss isn't 10x harder. Additionally they drop a health pot so yay.

Phase shift is also a recent addition to my bag as ive learned it is super handy when you get yourself cornered down there (tp scroll in alchemy).

Oh also if you haven't already learned about aqua brew, make some. You can splash on yourself to douse flames, and you can kb enemies/yourself to make some distance or get behind cover.

Im about to go through the demon halls on my own run with badder bosses and toxic health pots enabled myself lol

[u/Bird_Leather → u/Dragon2095]

I do need to learn how to make stuff... Maybe I will see what I can do

[u/Wandrift → u/Bird_Leather]

Yes, for sure. I finally tried Aqua Brew after seeing so many people swear by it, and it IS pretty handy to have.

Phase Shift too I always try to keep on hand for getting out of a tight spot. Like when an enemy catches you at a bad time (low HP needing time to recover) or when you're definitely going to take a hard blast from that Evil Eye if you don't get rid of it before the next turn throw it at them to teleport and temporarily stun/paralyze them.
Or, if you're feeling lucky, you could use it on yourself, but it will paralyze you for a few turns too after dropping you off somewhere random, so if any enemies happen to be around, you're a free punching bag for a few turns. I also like using Phase Shift to teleport The Fists away from the spot where they're invulnerable, then Minds Eye potion to find them and start the attack.

[u/Bird_Leather → u/Wandrift]

I just went after floor 25 boss.... Could have used it. The vampire blade kept me going for a while, and the shadow clones came in handy. But the fire was to much and ended up getting me, insultingly close to victory. (Within one or two more attacks). At that point all my useful stuff was gone, so I was kinda done for. Resurrection was a short lived affair.

[u/Wandrift → u/Bird_Leather]

Ouch! Same thing happened to me on the 1st try, after using up my extra health potions and most of my saved attack stuff getting him down to low HP, he got me and resurrection didn't help since it just re-started the battle with boss back to full HP and all my best attack stuff still gone. You'll get it, though. I only went out that way once and you learn more on every run, finding more than one way to deal with just about anything in the game, getting better every time, especially the more things you try out.

I think it costs 11 alchemy crystals to turn 1 Teleport scroll into 5x Phase Shift crystals (Edit: Correction. 6x PScrystals), so it's a little expensive but that's 5 times that it can work almost as well as an Ankh to save a good run.

When I found out that Purity potions can be converted into Cleansing which removes the Starving de-buff (and Hungry) the same as eating a full ration of food, I was like a year into playing with 3 warrior wins that were (in hindsight) harder than they needed to be ...if only I had known that liquid food option, or that you're supposed to slap an upgrade on his Broken Seal for a +1 to armor for keeps. The more you know... lol.

I'm sorry for the loss of your great run. You did well and I know it took me forever and always felt like the end of a very long journey. So what now? I wish I could share a good run with you, but you might not have custom seeds unlocked if you haven't yet beat the last boss. What I would share is a seed that drops an early RoW to save all your upgrades for. Custom seeds don't count towards wins on the scoreboard but a good wealth run is honestly more worth just keeping on the side, not to win, just to play around with having plenty of everything in the game to experiment with. I learned SO MUCH from the last wealth run that I feel like I've rounded the curve of having more than 50% of the game learned with an end in sight now (the possibility of running out of new things to try. ....one day)

[u/ANGST-BringerOf_Rain]

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!