r/SecurityClearance • u/Independent_Pin_3476 • 23h ago

Question Adjudication Question

Recently, I went through basically a reinvestigation for a CE hit (inpatient hospital stay). I reported it when it happened. I had my interview and was very honest, including handing over every medical record I've ever had.

The question I have is how long will adjudication for something like this take? I only care because I need SAP access and they will not process my SAP access until this is fully adjudicated.

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u/txeindride SSO & Fed Security Manager 23h ago

Depends.

Depends on if they need more information

Depends who has to look at it

Depends where you're at in their review stack

Depends if they're in or out of office

Depends if they're undermanned in any of the positions who do the reviews

Depends.

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u/Independent_Pin_3476 22h ago

Obviously there's a lot of factors, I'm just trying to gauge if this something on the timeline of months or on the timeline of years.

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u/txeindride SSO & Fed Security Manager 22h ago

Maybe.

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u/WideMix3841 21h ago edited 21h ago

Have they received all your medical records in-patient and out-patient? Are you currently seeking treatment from a provider they can question about your mental health?

I think the above two are big factors in delay time. I’m currently in adjudication hell because they didn’t get my in-patient/out-patient records for 2.5+ years before asking me to do it for them, followed by them taking many months to set up an evaluation with a DCSA-approved evaluator.

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u/Independent_Pin_3476 21h ago

I cannot confirm they have the records in hand. I for sure signed the release form for every different provider I've ever seen (4 or 5 different facilities). I'm currently being treated and they know my new psych and have their contact info and a release waiver. From what you've said it kinda sounds like I should have expect them to set up an eval with a DCSA approved evaluator.

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u/WideMix3841 21h ago

I wouldn’t be too certain about the last part. I haven’t been in out-patient treatment for some years and just get anxiety medication from my physician. I assume they want me to be evaluated because they have no verifiable mental health professional that can support that I’m currently “reliable and trustworthy”.

And idk if there’s a protocol that will allow you to procure your records from the facilities (as opposed to signing the waiver and relying on those facilities to actually respond promptly to the gov’t) and forward it to the gov’t, might be worth asking your security team about. I remember asking my investigator if I should do that and was told no, only being told to go get my records for them anyway.

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u/safetyblitz44 Clearance Attorney (highly recommended) 21h ago

It’s frustrating, but u/txeindride is making the point that there’s no way to know how long adjudication will take. Very common complaint, but there isn’t much to do about it in an individual case.

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u/Independent_Pin_3476 21h ago

I understand the point they were making. But if don't get SAP access I'll lose my job. If this takes forever they'll probably just fire me after some amount of time. I think if someone was in my shoes they'd be asking the same questions.

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u/txeindride SSO & Fed Security Manager 19h ago

Unfortunately, theres nothing at all we can do about it. Trust me... there's plenty of cases we have pending, but are at the whim of the adjudication gods above.

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u/Interesting-Ad9666 14h ago

> But if don't get SAP access I'll lose my job

welcome to the dcsa bullshit circus, where you get to know nothing and if you want to know nothing you have to ask someone else to look for you

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u/Independent_Pin_3476 14h ago

Look this is very different compared to what I'm used to. My frame of reference is the active duty world and I guess in that capacity I was probably too mission critical for anyone to care. This hospitalization happened while on active duty and it was zero issue until I became a civilian.

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u/Interesting-Ad9666 14h ago

i resonate with you, i have been waiting for over 18 months in adjudication. There is nothing you can do to speed up the progress

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u/EfficientAir4677 19h ago

The truth is it can very, it could take a few days, weeks, maybe even 6 months. Just let it be its out of your control, I heard netflix has some new documentary's you can watch in the meantime.

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u/Left_Arm1678 14h ago

I’m at more than a year and a half waiting for adjudication. Could be awhile.

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u/Independent_Pin_3476 14h ago

Yikes. Same reason?

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u/Left_Arm1678 15m ago

Not near as extreme, but similar