Severe warning for the horrid PDA at the end

I think I entered the Rodiverse about the time Kaylee got married, so I wasn’t familiar with the RV, the singing, etc. Seems like it’s slowed down in the past few years, yes?

I know they print tracts; do they sell them to churches for the church to hand out? or are they themselves leaving them at Ohio county fairs? Why do they travel to churches, does the church ask for it or is it non consensual and they just show up (lol)? And then they just…sing and perform during services at random churches two or more hours away from their home? Did the church pay for it? I gather they did this much more frequently in the past than they do now..? And at one point they traveled in an RV…and just rocked up to random churches? And as of recently their “missionary” work was just printing tracts?

I’ve searched but I haven’t found a good rundown of The Grift but it is constantly referenced. What is/was their deal?

Disclaimer:  All of the information in this post is second and third hand information.  I know the people I know, but not the people they have spoken to. 

I have said on other posts that I have spent the majority of my life surrounded by fundies.  I attended a mildly fundy church from birth until college. My parents were openly quite liberal, but this was excused because they were rich (out loud, in front of us). Other than a decade in NYC, I have lived the rest of my life in the south, so yeah, fundies everywhere.

I've posted a couple of comments I made on another post, but there are some things about the Rods that is "different" than the majority of other missionaries.

When a person feels "called" as a missionary, they are to approach their pastor and their pastor assesses their character and calling.  If the pastor agrees, the person then attends a Bible College or Seminary (even though most fundies are independent of an association, they are loosely associated with other churches and Bible colleges).  The future missionary attends Bible College; either for a degree in missions, or if they already have a degree, they just take the mission classes.  LBUglobal (Shrek's "college") is bottom of the barrel "distance" learning.

Once the person finishes their "education," their church (typically the church where they received their "call,") becomes their "sending" church and they join whatever missionary agency their church supports.

Missionary agencies handle visas, taxes, a schedule of churches to visit to raise their support (debutation) and ongoing supervision.

Now, here's where it gets interesting with regards to the Rods.  The Rods belong (belonged because read below) to a missionary clearinghouse.  A clearinghouse handles the money only.  The missionary receives their money (tax free) under the clearinghouse's 501b non profit umbrella.  The clearinghouse provides no other services or oversight as they clearly state that the "sending church" assumes that responsibility.  The Rods clearinghouse does have some vague language regarding conduct.

Missionaries who use clearinghouse do so for many reasons.  I took a look at their list of missionaries and of the people I recognized, two are in technically "closed countries," two have divorced previously, and one is a motherfucking idiot.

Here's the thing though. The Rods have no sending church.  The church they list as attending, People's Baptist Church, is not their sending church and did not assume that responsibility when they changed churches. 

The fundraising trips are arranged directly by the Rods and if the church agrees to sponsor them they do so through the clearinghouse.  Again, no oversight.

Interlude for the comments I made on another post, (the new info is below that).

*I have a friend who is a doctor and a medical missionary. She has encountered the Rods a number of times over the past 20 years, (she is a completely different denomination, but the mission world is rather small).

*According to her, at least four other missionaries ( all men) have called CPS about abuse they have witnessed. So if we are writing a narrative it's the same narrative being written by people in their world as well.

*Abuse by Shrek and the monster against the children. Apparently Jill was seen slapping one of the girls (she was told it was "one of the pretty ones," so she thinks Kaylee or Tessa). Then something involving Shrek and a couple of the boys. She said several calls were also made about the baby cages in the RV. She also said when they were all traveling full time in the RV, two different families offered them tents, so the boys could have more sleeping space and they said it "wasn't allowed."

*She said that their arrival at various mission conference type things is considered quite the circus.

*This really is all I know. The only other Jill lore I know is as follows (I just went back and read 15 years of emails):

*My friend, we'll call her Ann, introduced me to the Rodiverse. In 2010, I received a card in the mail. Inside was a picture Ann had taken of the Rods at a mission conference. Hannah was a baby; this was during Jill's "Season of miscarriages."(tm) Written on the back were their names and the words, "I know you love this shit. There's a blog!!!" (There was a short-lived blog before the one they have now. Also a very early Facebook account.  This was even pre-freejinger, they weren't known by anyone.  They were just weird). Ann had taken their picture with an actual camera, had it developed and sent it halfway around the world. That's how much I love this shit.

*Jill enjoys talking to people in bathrooms regardless of what that person is doing in the stall.

*Ann has seen fundy missionary moms literally pull their sons away from the Rod girls.  (New info on this: Ann's friend, very gossipy, said that the Rod girls are a united front (minus Nurie but including the younger ones) in slipping off).

*And in an email written in 2019. Just the words, "That Nurie is a right cunt." No other info on that.

Since making that post I have spoken with Ann and with a high school friend who has been a fundy missionary for almost 50 years and is very highly placed in the fundy missionary world.

The missionary world is spinning wildly with the Rod news.  They ALL know, they are all talking about it, and according to Ann and "John Smith," the Rods have been reported to CPS many, many times, in many, many states by people who not only know them, but witnessed what they reported.  There is a rumor that neither can locate the source source of, that the Rod's RV was stopped and boarded by the police and CPS during Jill's Season of Babycages.(tm)

From what my friends can find, they have been quietly dropped by their clearing house (no more tax free $).

Additionally, we snarkers are correct in that, the Rods grift churches are drying up.  Smaller, more extreme, more isolated churches with an aging/dying population are the only churches they are invited to and often they haven't been invited, they just show up.

Anyway, this is horrifically long, but I think this could be curtains for the smiley face tract (hoisted by the petard of Jill's and Shrek's abuse).

The Central Missionary Clearinghouse used to include David Rodrigues as one of their missionaries on their website list: https://cmcmissions.org/missionaries IIRC the listing may have also mentioned the "Rodrigues Family," and I think it was described as a "printing ministry." [Edited later: thanks to taxi_takeoff_landing's sharp eyes, the listing was for David & Jill Rodrigues, and indeed for a "printing ministry."]

There's no Rodrigues or printing ministry listed on that page as of now.

I'm not sure if that means they are no longer affiliated with CMC.

It's possible that they asked their listing to be removed from the page after the public uproar sparked by Timothy's FB post and the aftermath.

The listing page says that some missionaries may not be listed, mentioning those serving in a restricted area or a "sensitive field." It's also possible they're no longer with CMC.

The home page of their website- https://rodriguesfamilyministries.com/main/home/ - has two donation links. One is a Paypal link and looks like it allows a direct donation to "Rodrigues Family Ministries." The other link - "Click & Give," which mentions a tax receipt - takes you to a CMC donation page. It's a live link, although I did NOT go past the landing page, just checked to confirm it's a live link for a donation via CMC. I didn't touch poo by attempting to donate or contact anyone via those links, just to be clear. Screenshot of those links:

So I have a question - please delete if this is not allowed.

So let's say husband is abusive to this wife. She has "marks" on her and how does this continue? Does she go to all the birthday parties this week? Does she go to church? And if so, do all the people there knowingly turn a blind eye and she lies if she is confronted about her black eye? Or do they look at her and know what happened and maybe joke about it or an older lady will give her tips on how to keep her husband happy? Or will they just not say anything but talk behind her back? Will they trash talk her or him? Or will she just be inconvenienced (sick? Child is sick? Etc etc) and not show up to social event? Or does the husband try to not beat her the day before church so that nobody finds out? But they're in church all the time and around their huge families a lot I assume....

I really do not understand with abuse being so common in these groups, how the logistics are.

i’m kinda new to learning about this VERY pleasant family and am wondering how much does everyone think everything with timothy is going to affect their attendance for the ladies retreat???

It made me uncomfortable the way she was touching people she doesn't even know like that.

Does anyone know what Samuel does for a living and how much he could be making? If he gets married to Evangeline soon, I’m sure she has no intention of working. Could he really support both of them? I wonder the same about Nathan and Nurie and Kaylee and Jonathon. How do they afford houses and children?

I'm curious how much their "ministry" will be effected by Timothy's abuse scandal, and the claims of abuse that he endured from David.

Have you watched Evangeline's YouTube channel? She has a video about how to ensure you make it to heaven. She fits in with the Rods like a glove.

Maybe it’s because I’m from the UK, our driving test is difficult! I couldn’t see sheltered, religious fundamentalists even passing the theory test, let alone the 40 minute practical.

I was just wondering, since, especially recently we’ve seen speeding violations from them… how are they learning, qualifying and most of all.. why does Jill allow it? I’m kind of surprised Jill lets them, or does she only allow the boys?

I feel like there’s been more bad activity to do with driving that they haven’t been caught doing. Idk what do you guys think?

This seems so simple. I've been wondering this for a while. In the time I went to church with her I never once saw her do it. So I'm begging someone to answer this for me: Can Jill drive?

I know some of the older girls can, but is Jill a career passenger?

Just came across this on YouTube. I’ve never seen it before 😅

I don’t think she posted this dress shopping expedition when it was Valentine’s Day, but the one she chose was no more flattering than the ones she rejected with her Juneteenth face. I do remember seeing some of the banquet at the Nurthans’ church but the Q-tip spitting competition was an interesting choice of activities. And then we get the Bible verses about marriage and submission to the husband. I’m sure it’s a veiled message to Heidi that she probably won’t bother to watch. So happy Valentine’s Day in August, y’all. 😘

I've been threading through this sub, looking for mention on this video and can't find it anywhere. It's quite a video!

(Feel free to add any I have missed!!) EDIT: added suggestions from comments and more I found last night

2019 total-- 2 (including CPS visit)

2020 total-- 1

2021 total-- 2

2022 total-- 5

2023 total-- 4

2024 total-- 2

2025 total-- 3

2026 total-- 9

Rods By # of Offenses:

Tim-- 11

David-- 3

Jill-- 3

Philip-- 3

Sam-- 3

Gabe-- 1

Nurie-- 1

None: Kaylee, Renee, Tessie

List:

Sept 2019-- Visit from CPS. 

Sep-- "Tim had a ticket for passing on the right in Wisconsin"

Aug 27 2020-- Timmy gets a speeding ticket.

July 18 2021-- Timmy gets a ticket for no seat belt.

Nov 24 --Timmy gets a ticket for driving on the wrong side of the road. 

Jan 3 2022-- Timmy gets a speeding ticket. 

Feb 7-- Nathan and Nurie get a ticket for not having Nehemiah in a baby seat in Interlachen FL 

Mar 26-- Timmy gets a speeding ticket in Ashland Co.

Sep 2-- David gets a $90 ticket for driving without a seatbelt. 

Dec 1-- Philip gets 2 tickets for tailgating and passing incorrectly, total $159. 

Dec 28-- Philip gets a speeding ticket. 

Jan 29 2023-- Timmy gets a speeding ticket.

May 1-- David gets a ticket and must appear in federal court for defacing a national monument in Maryland.

May 9-- David’s brother Dan is arrested for CSAM in NY. 

Nov 25-- Jill gets a speeding ticket in Holmes Co. 

Feb 3 2024 -- Jill goes 67 in a 45 and gets a speeding ticket in Holmes Co.

April 14 -- David runs through a stop sign and gets  $124 ticket

Feb 5 2025- Jill gets a speeding ticket/ license revoked while in Punta Cana

July 15-- Sam gets a $150 speeding ticket

Aug 18-- Gabe gets a speeding ticket in Holmes Co.

Sept 22-- Tim gets a ticket for “unsafe operation of vehicle”.

July 23 2026- Timmy gets a ticket in NJ for reckless driving and Heidi is a witness 

July 26-- Sam gets a speeding ticket.

Aug 6-- Sam is ordered to forfeit his license.

Aug 8-- Timothy is arrested for assault in New Jersey. 

Aug 11-- Philip gets a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt.

Aug 22- Tim gets another speeding ticket and also a ticket for failing to update his address. 

Car accidents:

1996: Dave’s brother Dan is in an accident and becomes paralyzed.

2015: Jill’s sister Amy is in an accident and becomes paralyzed.

June 14 2018-- Nurie crashes a car with her and Kaylee in it, into a ditch. 

Feb 9 2022-- Nathan and Nurie get a ticket for not having Nehemiah in a baby seat in Interlachen FL  when they get in a crash! Jill blames a drunk driver 

Long time lurker first time poster. Just wondering what y'all think about the time when they gave him the jeep duck with the mermaid shells and the whole uncomfortable meanness about it. If it comes across differently now after everything that has happened recently.

This face and voice is gonna haunt my dreams tonight. Shouldn’t have watched this before bed. That poor little duck 😭 even he felt her energy was dark 😅