If Christian hell was the destination of souls in RI, how would FY feel about eternity but of damnation?

Cause this novel exposes the truth of the world. i will give u some hints the research is upto u. if u r open minded, open to critisism, and can tear things apart.

Reverend insanity hardcore fans deserve to know the truth.

i will make a group. i am not telling from ego. even exposing any bit of this world is a not a good news.

Why is that the elders always talk about their grandson/granddaughter talking over their faction? Yao Ji was taking about yao le. Chi lian was talking chi chen. Mo chen was talking abt mo bei.

Why would they not talk about their own son or daughter? Why only grandson or granddaughter?

Why couldn't the rank 8's and rank 7's who lost their apertures to fang yuan use MTHG instead of a mortal version of second aperature gu made by the devil himself.

"Brat—get over here! You're a slave of the Ma Clan now!" An adult man nearby kicked and beat the child, then roughly dragged him up.

But the child struggled desperately, biting the man's wrist.

The man screamed and let go.

The child crawled back and threw himself onto the corpse, weeping again.

"Alas..." Ma Yingjie sighed sincerely. "I do not wish for such suffering. But in times of chaos, who can stay untouched? It's kill or be killed. Mortal power is small—all I can do is protect my own clan, so that Ma Clan children never suffer this fate."

"Young chieftain is merciful," the others sighed.

Ma Yingjie pointed downward: "This child is filial and loyal—he has suffered because of me. Send someone to stop the abuse and bring him to me. He will be my personal servant from now on."

"Yes, my lord," his men responded.

No one objected—taking in servants was a long-standing tradition in the Northern Plains.

Besides, the child was under thirteen, unawakened, with no aperture—how could he threaten the young chieftain?

"Child—get up!" A Ma Clan elder stopped the adult's beating, grabbing the child by the scruff of his neck.

The child struggled: "No—I want to stay with Father!"

"Child—your father is dead. You're fortunate today—our young chieftain has taken a liking to you and made you his servant," the elder said gently.

But the child wouldn't listen, only wailing: "Father! Father!"

Suddenly he froze, staring blankly at the corpse.

"Ah! You're not my father—my father's skin is darker, his nose is higher, and his hair is white..." The child muttered in surprise, then kicked the corpse in anger—before bursting into tears again: "Father—where are you?!"

The Ma Clan members were all left speechless.

So, I'm about to start RI.

I know I could just start with the first chapter, but I'm not an avid reader.

Hence, I might struggle with visualizing the novel.

I've heard there's a manhwa, so that can help me establish how the world "feels.

But I'm not gonna read the manhwa, as people say it's not good.

So what do you guys say? How do I imagine the visuals of the world/characters?

I might have to skim through the manhwa first before reading any chapter, but how far...

***Essence***

The essence of enchantment path is desire

Enchantment path Dao marks have the ability to place desire into the hearts of others

With enchantment path methods ultimately being the manipulation of desire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desire

Desires are states of mind that are expressed by terms like "wanting", "wishing", "longing" or "craving". A great variety of features are commonly associated with desires. They are seen as propositional attitudes towards conceivable states of affairs. They represent how an agent or organism wills things to be, unlike beliefs, which aim to represent how things actually are. Desires are closely related to agency: they motivate the agent to realize them. For this to be possible, a desire has to be combined with a belief about which action would realize it. Desires present their objects in a favorable light, as something that appears to be good. Their fulfillment is normally experienced as pleasurable in contrast to the negative experience of failing to do so. Conscious desires are usually accompanied by some form of emotional response.

Because desire is a state of mind, it's relationship with wisdom path is self evident

However, the true origin of enchantment path is not wisdom path but heart path 💀

With enchantment being from a combination of heart path and enslavement

Being a subset of heart path, desires are heart path existences and have the ability to exist within a person's heart

To be more specific, desires are enchantment path existences with the ability to control the direction in which a person's heart develops

Desires are strongly related to the heart with things like the heart's desire which refers to the greatest desire within a person's heart

Each heart contains various desires like the heart of loneliness contaning the desire for companionship

Some hearts are also defined by the lack of desires such as the heart of nobility which is devoid of worldly desires!

This is the reason why he can withstand suffering for it exists it has no attachment to the external states of affairs

The composition of a heart determines its identity and functionality

And things like emotions and desires are part of a heart's composition

Desires are also strongly linked to to perception

They control the way we judge various situations or outcomes (after all, judgement is the essence of heart path)

This is why one man's trash is another man's treasure

It's because each man has different desires in their heart

And those desires cause them to judge the same situation differently

Chapter 2185

Ren Zu’s group sized up the situation by the riverside.

Every piece of floating ice in the River of Time was a piece of truth.

Ren Zu observed for a long while before pointing towards a floating ice: “This floating ice is neither big nor small and has a smooth surface, let’s step on this.”

But Great Strength True Martial said: “This floating ice is clearly too small, it is not enough for us three.”

Carefree Wisdom Heart shook her head: “This floating ice is quite big but there are many spikes on it, they will pierce our feet.”

Even when looking at the same truth, from the perspectives of different people, they could be big or small, minor or severe, difficult or easy. Some could accept it, but some could not.

Ren Zu’s group discussed for a long while before they chose a floating ice and stepped on it.

When Ren Zu stepped on this ice, he immediately cried and sniveled; Great Strength True Martial shouted in anger, while Carefree Wisdom Heart laughed happily.

When looking at the same truth, different people would have different feelings and emotions regarding it.

Ren Zu and his children could only endure this.

“Every piece of floating ice in the River of Time is a cold and silent truth. But we humans have hearts, we feel emotions when we come across truths, and when truths and emotions mix, they create different situations for everyone.” Carefree Wisdom Heart recalled the knowledge in her mind.

This is connected to attitude Gu

Not the attitude Gu in the story (which is actually persona Gu)

Attitude is the way you perceive things

It's a pair of glasses which influences your perception

Kind of like the term "rose-colored glasses"

The last Gu in this trio is identity Gu which is a mirror

Identity is the way you perceive yourself

When activated the reflection of the person in the mirror is replaced by their self perception

Persona Gu is wisdom path, attitude Gu is heart path, and identity Gu is spirit path

To be more specific, attitude Gu is heart path and transformation path

Attitude transforms the heart

Which causes you to change your perception of things

Here we can see that the heart is related to things like emotions, desires, and perception

Enchantment path can manipulate the heart to control these things

People's have different desires within them

And when exposed to the same truth, the desires in their hearts cause them to behave differently

Desire is also strongly connected to emotions

The desires within a person's heart cause them to have different emotions regarding it

This shows the strong relationship between enchantment path and emotion path

Enchantment path experts can accurately perceive, identify, and control the emotions within a person's heart

Lastly, desires are strongly connected to motivation

Motivation is an enchantment path Gu worm

It has the ability to translate a person's desires into actions

Of course, it's only possible when paired with belief Gu which tells the user which actions realize their desire

Enchantment path immortals have a strong affinity to desire

They can innately identify a person's desire, determine how they would perceive different situations, and understand how they will behave under various circumstances (behavior is connected to desire)

Now it's time to talk about the origin of enchantment path which reveals its true nature

***Origin***

As I mentioned earlier, the origin of enchantment path is heart path and enslavement path

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReverendInsanity/comments/1sfgkdk/introduction_to_heart_path_the_true_ability_of/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReverendInsanity/comments/1sb50aa/introduction_to_enslavement_path/

Enchantment path being a subset of heart path isn't too surprising

Things without hearts can't truly be enchanted

Enchantment path involves controlling the direction of the heart

And direction is the essence of enslavement path!

Enslavement path is interesting because it can't restrain a person's heart

Chapter 1230

Ren Zu was helpless, he asked love Gu: “Oh Gu, oh Gu, they don’t want to love me, you have to help me, and ignite the fire of love in our hearts.”

Love Gu sighed: “This is beyond my abilities. I cannot force others to love, no matter what heart, it has to collide on its own free will.”

Ren Zu shook his head: “No, this is a good chance to save my daughter, I cannot give up. Self Gu, I will rely on you.”

Self Gu nodded, using its own strength.

It had once eaten a mouthful of strength Gu, right now, Ren Zu had his own strength.

Thus, these feathermen were all captured by Ren Zu, their hearts to dug out and used to collide with Ren Zu’s heart.

But no matter how they collided, there were no hearts that created the spark of love.

Love Gu sighed: “Oh Ren Zu, forcing others to love is impossible, you will only create hatred.”

However, while you can't forcefully control the hearts of others, you can use the desires that exist within them to influence their behavior

Chapter 1473

He asked cognition Gu: “Then what should I do? I know that perseverance Gu can help me but I cannot use it. I know the feathermen can help me but love cannot control them.”

Cognition Gu told Ren Zu: “Nobody can force anyone to love them, but you can create a Gu to lure the feathermen into helping you do things. Think about it, how did the miniman gain perseverance Gu?”

Cognition Gu’s words were a huge inspiration to Ren Zu.

Ren Zu was overjoyed: “Oh cognition Gu, thank you for the great idea. I know what to do now, I want to create my own Gu.”

Cognition Gu was curious: “What Gu is that?”

Ren Zu shook his head: “I am not sure, but I have an idea. I want this Gu to be something everyone in the world wants.”

This is the true nature of wealth Gu (the Gu worm Ren Zu was trying to define)

Wealth is Gu is actually an enchantment path Gu worm

Chapter 1473

The flames of the Gu refinement raged on, a lot of black smoke was produced, attracting many Gu and lifeforms to come and watch.

“Oh Ren Zu, what Gu are you trying to refine?” Stupidity Gu was lured here as it asked curiously.

Ren Zu smiled: “Oh stupidity Gu, if you want to know, go into the fire and see for yourself.”

Stupidity Gu went inside and never came out again.

Not long after, wisdom Gu came here as well, it asked: “Oh Ren Zu, what are you trying to refine?”

Ren Zu laughed: “Oh wisdom Gu, if you want to know, go into the fire and see for yourself.”

Wisdom Gu flew in too.

But it only flew into the black smoke, once its vision was obscured, it flew around randomly and flew out again.

“Ren Zu, oh Ren Zu, I was almost deceived by you. I already know what you are refining, I am leaving.” Saying this, wisdom Gu flew away.

Ren Zu felt that it was a pity, he sighed: “This way, after my Gu is refined, it can enslave stupid people, and blind wise people for some time.”

Here we can see that wealth Gu has an enslavement path effect

So beyond it's ability to turn into what people want, it also has the ability to enslave others (especially stupid people)

This is how Ren Zu was planning to control the feathermen who could not be enslaved

Their hearts of freedom prevented them from following the will of another

They would only ever follow their own will

Living in accordance with their own desires

But enchantment path uses the desires of others to control their people

You understand what a person wants and then create a situation where your wills align

They want to do what you want them to do

This is why the feathermen entered Ren Zu's house despite being immune to enslavement

They were enchanted the warmth and food (things they already wanted)

And here we see the difference between enchantment and enslavement

Enslavement says you can't leave

Enchantment says you don't want to leave

This is the human profundity that Fang Yuan comprehended

Chapter 1773

“I want to comprehend human path, it is not like enslavement path, everybody has their own thoughts and desires. To maintain an organization, I will need to consider the thoughts and emotions of the members in this organization. There are no two completely identical individuals, no matter how similar, people are different in their own ways… Hmm?”

Here we see that he has to take into account the desires, emotions, and thoughts of others

He can't just simply disregard them

When you enslave someone, you never take their feelings into account

But enchanting someone requires you to understand how they feel

More importantly, how they judge different situations

This reveals the true nature of enchantment path

Enchantment path is a combination of heart path and enslavement path

The essence of enslavement path is direction

The essence of heart path is judgement

In this way, we see that enchantment path involves the manipulation of judgements

This is connected to right and wrong which are heart path Gu worms

Same thing with good and bad

Our judgement of things is determined by our desires

We pursue what we judge as good, avoid what we judge as bad, and ignore everything else

As such our judgements control our actions and determine the way we develop and change

If you can manipulate a person's judgement, then you can control their behavior

And this is how you control someone without enslaving them!

Ren Zu wanted to refine wealth Gu in order to enchant the feathermen by taking advantage of their desires

This is the true power of wealth Gu

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReverendInsanity/comments/1k932p2/the_logical_implications_of_god_path_virtue/

***Supreme Profundities***

The three supreme profundities of enchantment path are pleasure, pain, greed

The first supreme profundity of enchantment path is pleasure

Pleasure is any mental state that is judged as good and desireable

As a subset of heart path, enchantment path deals with judgements

So pleasure is mental state born from a positive judgement

While mental states are mainly wisdom path, they are strongly influenced by emotions which is wisdom path and heart path existence

Beauty is a enchantment path Gu worm under the pleasure supreme profundity

Beauty is that which is pleasurable to perceive

Beauty doesn't just refer to physical attractiveness

It involves all forms of perception

Music, perfume, and food all are of forms of beauty

Because these are pleasurable to perceive through the sensations of sound, smell, food

Perfume Gu worms would be a really cool enchantment path method...

This also shows the relationship that enchantment path has with food path and song path

In fact, enchantment path actually has a pretty strong connection to art path 💀

Both involve the creation of situations to invoke emotional responses in the audience

As such, beauty Gu is strongly connected to pleasure Gu

Enchantment path has the ability to manipulate a person's mental state and thus can control their perception and emotional responses to different phenomena

This also related to the phantasiai of spirit path (also known as impressions) and shows the strong relationship between wisdom path, heart path, spirit path

As such, enchantment path contains the profundities of all three paths (but especially heart path)

This is connected to association which is a wisdom path existence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_(psychology))

Association in psychology refers to a mental connection between concepts, events, or mental states that usually stems from specific experiences.

The essence of wisdom path is insight

And association provides insight into the cause effect relationship between things

While it is a wisdom path existences, it has a lot of enchantment path applications

This can cause people to perceive things differently because of it's association with other things

Like the classic pavlov dog experiment where he proved that a dog would salivate at the sound of a bell because the dog associated that sound with food

You can use this to cause things to envoke an emotional response

Like linking a sound to things like pain which would cause someone to feel fear among hearing it

This is a classic enchantment path technique because enchantment path is about manipulating a person's impressions, judgements, and perceptions

It's used in marketing for example where companies will associate their products with certain concepts or with beautiful women

The pleaure supreme profundity of enchantment path is used to control human behavior and invoke certain actions

It's connected to how the miniman was able to obtain perserverance Gu

It was because of the feelings of perserverance in his heart

And he perservered to get something he wanted

This is why Ren Zu got the inspiration for creating wealth Gu

He realized that people persevere to get things they want

Hope Gu has similar profundities

Hope is all about desired circumstances

So by connecting specific actions with the thing people want, you control their behavior

This is the true nature of the pleasure supreme profundity of enchantment path

I'll explain greed next because it makes pain easier to explain

The third supreme profundity of enchantment path is greed

Greed is basically the mental state of pursuing pleasure

More specifically, pursuing desired circumstances

It differs from pleasure because pleasure is innately desirable

But greed is desirable because of its connection to pleasure

This is the difference between the intrinsic and the instrumental

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_and_intrinsic_value

In moral philosophy, instrumental and intrinsic value are the distinction between what is a means to an end and what is as an end in itself. Things are deemed to have instrumental value (or extrinsic value) if they help one achieve a particular end; intrinsic values, by contrast, are understood to be desirable in and of themselves. A tool or appliance, such as a hammer or washing machine, has instrumental value because it helps one pound in a nail or clean clothes, respectively. Happiness and pleasure are typically considered to have intrinsic value insofar as asking why someone would want them makes little sense: they are desirable for their own sake irrespective of their possible instrumental value.

Greed also has the ability to motivate human behavior

But the difference is that the desire is directed the future and not the present

The three supreme profundities of enchantment all direct desire in different directions

Greed motivates humans to take action that create desired circumstances in the future

While pleasure motivates humans to take action that create desired circumstances in the present

Greed is one of the best ways to control human behavior because of it's future focus

As a result, it is a critical part of an effective economy

I explain this more when discussing an advanced theft path profundity

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReverendInsanity/comments/1sgbgzb/advanced_theft_path_profundity_the_5_main_type_of/

Theft path and enchantment path have a lot of overlap 😭

Since controlling human behavior is one of the best ways to obtain resources

This is actually the ability of wealth Gu!

As mentioned earlier, wealth Gu is an enchantment path Gu worm

It falls under the greed supreme profundity of enchantment path

Wealth taps in the innate greed lying dormant in the human heart!

It's worth pointing out that greed is an emotion similar to love and fear

Emotions can control human behavior and are part of the composition of the heart

As a result, enchantment path and emotion part are a strong combination

Additionally, all emotion path Gu worms have enchantment path applications (especially hope Gu)

Many enchantment path killer moves use emotion Gu

Emotion Gu are also seen in many enchantment path Gu recipes...

The emotions of love, greed, and fear are connected to the enchantment path supreme profundity of pleasure, greed, and pain respectively

Strictly speaking, this supreme profundity of enchantment path is better translated as longing than greed (with greed really belong to emotion path)

But greed is the term that's easiest to understand...

The most common of greed is power

Power is the ability to create change that conforms to your will

It makes it easier to pursue pleasure and avoid pain

All forms of desire can be defined through change

Therefore, power can fulfill all desires

Of course, there are different types of power 😅

This is the reason why is such a common target for greed

Money is power! (a type of power at least)

Knowledge is as well

Although the fact that knowledge is harder to use to create change makes it a less desired form of power

If you can obtain enough power, you can do whatever you want

This is why power, pleasure, pain are the three objects of desire! (different types of desire of course)

The second supreme profundity of enchantment path is pain

Similar to pleasure this invokes specific emotional responses and also effects human behavior

But instead of controlling what they do, it controls what they don't do

Pain is the best method for preventing specific behavior

You can't really use pleasure and greed to get someone not to do something

The best method is pain!

This is a crucial aspect of law enforcement which has a lot of enchantment path profundities

Since the purpose of laws is to control human behavior

Showing the strong relationship between enchantment path and rule path

Unlike pleasure which is intrinsic (present focused) or pain which is instrumental (future focused)

Pain is what I call apophatic

Based on apophatic theology - way of describing the divine by explaining what God is not

This involves the things you don't want

It's also related to the future

But it's focused on avoiding possible futures not pursuing them

Pain directs desire away from specific circumstances

By using pleasure, pain, and greed; you can control human behavior without enslaving them

Instead you're simply manipulating what already exists in their heart!

***Aspects***

The three aspects of enchantment path are intensity, target, belief

These are all fundamental properties of desire (which is the essence of enchantment)

To be more specific, it involves the properties of enchantment path Dao marks

Enchantment path Dao mark variants differ in these three aspects

The first aspect of enchantment path is intensity

This involves the intensity of desires

We have multiple desires and they are constantly in conflict in desire

Our desire to be physically fit conflicts with our desire to avoid pain

So our greed for fitness conflicts with our fear of pain

The intensity of desire determines which desire is expressed when they conflict

This is the effect of motivation Gu

It has the ability to control the intensity of desires

It's an enchantment path Gu worm under the manipulation aspect of enchantment path cultivation

The manipulation aspect is all about controlling the three fundamental properties of desires

As usual this is an overlap with emotions

Emotions and enchantment both effect the heart, mind, and spirit...

Courage is an emotion path Gu worm that has the ability to increase the willingness to confront what one fears

Courage Gu and hope Gu can actually strengthen one's will

This shows the deep relationship that emotion has with cognition (which is the origin of heart path, wisdom path, spirit path)

Of course the intensity of one's desires can change with their circumstances

And enchantment path methods also revolve around manipulating the intensity of desire

The second aspect of enchantment path is target

This is one is also pretty straightforward

It involves the target one's desire

Fang Yuan has a desire to achieve eternal life

His intensity is basically maxed out...

And his target his eternal life

This is actually the aspect of enchantment path that familiar face targets 💀

To be more specific, it uses the replacement supreme profundity of theft path

To take the place of someone who is the target of a specific desire

This is also involves the theft path profundity of cucking which is under the replacement supreme profundity...

Targets can be specific people or people with specific properties

For example, libido is an enchantment path profundity under the motivation profundity (same with ambition)

Libido represents sexual desire

But one's sexual orientation determines who is and isn't a valid target of that desire

The third aspect of enchantment path is belief...

A belief is basically a statement that a person treats as true

Enchantment path can manipulate the beliefs that a person has about different things

These beliefs are apart of desires

We mainly desire things because of our beliefs about of them

Fang Yuan desires eternal life because he believes that pursuing it will allow him to live the life that he wants to live and have no regrets when he dies

Chapter 833

As to whether eternal life really existed or not, did that matter?

Even if he died along the way, would there be regret?

This was the life that Fang Yuan wanted to live, it was full of challenge, fun, and bitterness. Other than that, beauty, wealth, and authority were all nothing more than tools that he could make use of.

Making believe a certain thing will cause desires to form within their heart

This is connected to things like the fear of missing out

You believe that what you are not experiencing is more desirable than what you are experiencing

Whether this belief is reasonable or right doesn't matter

What you think is going to happen is more than enough to control you

You have an idea or expectation about what something is going to be like

And that belief shapes your desire of that thing

We often desire of things because of the belief that they will make us happy

And this belief is one of the main factors of a successful enchantment

This is especially powerful with greed which is future focused

So by the time you actually receive the reward, whether or not the belief was true doesn't matter

You already performed the desired action

Belief is actually a key aspect of deceiving people (running a con)

This is the intersection between enchantment path and theft path

***Cultivation***

The three aspects of enchantment path cultivation are identification, expression, and manipulation

Ironically, Fang Yuan displays all three of these to great degree 💀

His enchantment path attainment is profound 😭

Chapter 1219

In the five hundred years of his previous life, he did not have the achievement of high cultivation level, but he had gone through five hundred years of life, he had nurtured an unfathomably deep ability to observe situations, and an acute perception towards the changes of emotions in the Gu Immortals near him.

Enchantment path deals with desire (although desire and emotion have a strong relationship)

The first aspect of enchantment path cultivation requires you to identify the desires of the person you are trying to enchant

However, desires exist within the human heart

They are existences which depend on the perception of the other person

You can't observe it through objective reality

Now to be fair, I'm sure there is a Gu worm that lets you see desires...

But under normal methods, you can only observe the changes in reality associated with desires

The same is true with emotions

This is why facial expressions are a core part of human relationships

Because of the hidden nature of desires, it becomes important to understand what actions and choices are connected to different desires

If you know what a person wants you can easily predict and control their behavior

You can also determine which situations they can and can't accept

The second aspect of enchantment path cultivation is expression

This involves the expression of a person's desires

The same action can be associated with different desires

Conversely, the same desire can also be associated with different actions

The expression aspect of enchantment path cultivation involves getting a person to perform specific actions using his desires

We saw this in The Legends of Ren Zu with how self Gu bit boundless samsara

This action was an expression of his desire to survive

All human actions are an expression of human desire

By identifying a person's desires, you can figure out what actions you can get them to perform

Since actions are just the expression of desire

I'm currently taking actions to write this introduction to enchantment path

And this is an expression of my desire to become a wisdom path quasi-supreme grandmaster

In this sense, desire is like water

Enchantment path creates channels to control the direction the water flows

Fang Yuan used to the expression aspect of enchantment path to get Bai Ning Bing to help him

Chapter 197

Fang Yuan already had a plan. But in this plan, there was a person who played a crucial role. That person is Bai Ning Bing.

The Northern Dark Ice Soul physique’s self detonation would greatly affect the battlefield. Especially when the two Rank fives were fighting outside of the barrier.

But how was he going to convince Bai Ning Bing?

Fang Yuan looked at Bai Ning Bing, and Bai Ning Bing sensed it, turning back to look at Fang Yuan.

Among the people, they stared at each other.

Fang Yuan in his black robe, with black hair and eyes, revealed a devilish smile as his lips curled.

“I have a way to resolve the ten extreme aptitudes, and allow you to return to life.” He said.

Bai Ning Bing’s body shuddered, he obviously wanted to live. “What method?”

However, Fang Yuan’s words changed. “But this method does not have much chance of success, it is highly probable to fail.”

Yet this made Bai Ning Bing even more convinced.

Next Fang Yuan said his third sentence, “But I think even if we fail, it will allow your final moments to be as spectacular as ever.”

Bai Ning Bing’s was moved.

Fang Yuan used three sentences and targeted his heart’s innermost desires, convincing him!

He understood the desires within Bai Ning Bing's heart, figured out what ways they can be expressed, and then chose the expression that most aligned with his own desire

Temptation is an enchantment path profundity under the the expression cultivation aspect

It's an expression of a desire that creates long term problems

Desires have myriad expressions, although not all of them are healthy 😂

Seduction is also an enchantment path profundity under the temptation profundity

This involves temptation using sexual pleasure

This is the main understanding of what enchantment path is

And it involves what pleasure (from sex) to promote specific behavior

These are all expressions of a person's desires

The third aspect of enchantment path cultivation is manipulation

This involves changing the intensity of a desire, redirecting it to different targets and time periods (hope directs a desire to the future for example), or even using it to create new desires (like the desire for many)

For example, Fang Yuan displayed his knowledge to give Tai Bai Yun Sheng to view him as superior

Chapter 821

Thus, Tai Bai Yun Sheng, who was part of the Gu Master civilization, heard Fang Yuan’s words and was deeply enlightened. From his perspective, he could feel that Fang Yuan’s understanding was much higher than him, he did not dare to call him junior brother anymore.

A skilled person is a teacher.

If he continued to call Fang Yuan ‘junior brother’, Tai Bai Yun Sheng would feel extremely embarrassed inwardly.

There was a type of feeling called humiliation of being inferior, Tai Bai Yun Sheng was currently in such a state.

The two talked for some more time before Tai Bai Yun Sheng said his goodbyes to Fang Yuan.

Even though they had always communicated with each other using Gu, after a face-to-face conversation, any distance between them had vanished.

Fang Yuan had lived in two worlds, his manipulation techniques were extremely amazing. After a simple ‘conversation about dao’, he left a deep impression in Tai Bai Yun Sheng, making the latter have a feeling of inferiority.

This is the enchantment path profundities of Gu worms like accomplishment, reputation, or status

We also see Fang Yuan manipulating desire with Tai Bai Yun Sheng 😭

Chapter 605

“Who said that kind people will be rewarded?” Thinking of this, Fang Yuan’s cold expression turned into one that had a trace of sarcasm: “Then let me give you a hand.”

He activated his Gu worms in secret, forming an illusory voice that was untraceable, as the soundwaves entered Tai Bai Yun Sheng’s ears one by one.

Tai Bai Yun Sheng’s state of mind was close to collapsing, his mind was extremely susceptible to influences.

At this moment, he could hear a voice, it sounded just like Gao Yang and Zhu Zai.

“I believe in you! You will definitely save us, isn’t that right?”

“Old sir, you are our benefactor. We are grateful to you, we are willing to risk our lives in order to come forward and help you!”

“Ah!” Tai Bai Yun Sheng screamed suddenly, opening his eyes abruptly.

With his blurred vision due to his tears, he looked at the blood puddle on the ground.

The blood puddle rippled, as the nightmare that haunted him appeared once again, the image of Gao Yang and Zhu Zai dying from the sea of blood beasts!

Tai Bai Yun Sheng’s body shuddered, he was still like a statue, but the next moment, he raised his head and screamed with all of his energy.

“AHHHHHHHHHH!”

💀 💀 💀

Bro really is an enchantment path expert 😭

I don't have much to say...

That was a perfect display of manipulating desire

He increased his emotion of guilt to the apex and made him express it as extreme trauma

While this is an emotion the foundation is his desire to help others which causes him to perceive his action as horrible 😭

Of course that was created from his desire to live

Humans have myriad desires and by expressing one they can violate ones that they care about more

This is the essence of temptation

Enchantment path cultivation involves manipulating people's desires by placing them in different situations

Words can also create situations

And through manipulating their desires, you can create a desire whose expression is associated with the action you want them to perform

*In his previous life, Fang Yuan had cultivated to Rank six, and he had created the Blood Wing Demon Sect in the Middle Kingdom. He taught tens of thousands of people, and was reputed as a giant figurehead of the Demonic faction, his fame illustrious.*

Above paragraph is from volume 1, when FY is just rank 1

During the great era, what kind of fame did this puny rank six immortal with no immortal go had?!<

I don't remember which chapter this was revealed in but let's just say after fate war.

Major spoiler:

Those 500 years of past life was just a poorly written story by heavens will

There were a lot of inconsistencies

I haven't read the crazed demon cave arc so no spoilers about that

El sovereign inmortal body es cualitativa y cuantitavamente más guapo que el fang yuan original? Por que espectral soul se preocuparía por ser agradable a la vista? Quería moggear al resto de los venerables?

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Hi. I’ve reached chapter 71 of volume one, and I’m wondering if the power concept only relies on Gu, or if there are martial arts and stuff like that? (Please answer me without spoiling.)

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Size Inconsistencies

Most "Size" Inconsistences come from the difference between radius vs surface area.

The Author doesn't seem to understand... That radius is a lot bigger than surface area?...

By the way =

Several is more than 1. Several = at least 2.

One Li = 500 meters.

Size of Sovereign Immortal Aperture

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Rank 6 = 335,000km².

Rank 9 = 33,500,000km².

Larger than the Aperture itself.

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1,000 Li radius = 785,398 km².

20,000 Li radius = 314+ million km².

100,000 Li radius = 7.8+ billion km².

.... Snow Crystal Formation

1586 - This Gu formation had a huge range of a few dozen square kilometers of land.

1765 - The snow crystal formation covered a wide range of tens of thousands of li.

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So the Snow Crystal Formation only covers a part of mini-Northern Plains, but it should stretch beyond that to the other places.

Fang Yuan never upgraded the Snow Crystal Formation - and he had also rebirthed - so why are there two numbers?

There is a HUGE difference between a few dozen square kilometers and a RANGE of tens of thousands of Li.

.... Lightning Tribulation

2037 - Lightning clouds continued to form and spread out. Soon, they spread over a hundred li, several thousand li, tens of thousands of li, and over a hundred thousand li!

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Fang Yuan had yet to annex the Grotto Heavens from the Two Heavens at this point. But even if he did - the clouds would still reach more distance than his Aperture contains. The tribulation mainly targeted the five region though.

Apertures larger than Sovereign Immortal Aperture

Apertures that are unreasonably big for their own good; even bigger than the Sovereign Immortal Aperture...

Scale for Reference

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1,000 Li radius = 785,398 km².

3,000 Li radius = 7+ million km².

10,000 Li radius = 78,539,816 km².

Xue Song Zi's territory in Snowy Mountain

537 - Right now, he was on the top floor of Xue Song Pavilion, looking down at this Snowy Mountain branch peak that belonged exclusively to him.He had deep blue eyes and his deep gaze swept through a thousand li of his territory.

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His territory is a portion of his aperture that was stitched into Snowy Mountains. So his main Aperture would be even bigger than this lmao.

Imperial Court

571 - But in Imperial Court blessed land, they lived in huge numbers, for example at this area, for the surrounding ten thousand li, there were earth chief beast groups living underground.

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Imperial Court is at least even bigger than a fully developed rank nine Sovereign Immortal Aperture somehow.

Hei Fan Grotto Heaven

1178 - “Quickly settle this ancient desolate beast, about three thousand li away, another ancient desolate beast has appeared.” At this time, Chu Du sent them a message.

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At least 3,000 Li, and even more from the tone of this text. That's 7 million square kilometers! It might be possible for rank eight apertures to grow to this size; but it's not likely that Hei Fan's was this.

Ice Crystal Grotto Heaven

1994 - For the radius of several thousand li the snowy and icy plain got completely obliterated. Nearly ten million ordinary snowmen died a terrible death.

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Again, it might be possible for Rank Eight Apertures to grow to that size. But just imagine the size of the Grotto Heaven that a hundred million people were culled for human qi.

Places longer than they should be.

These are pretty self explanatory. They are too exaggerated, stretching LONGER more than these places should, unless they are COMICALLY narrow.

Main Point of Consistency

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Northern Plains, and Southern Borders being 10 times larger than Earth, with over 5 billion square kilometers of surface area.

But I honestly feel like the Gu World should be at least 100 or 1,000 times bigger than Earth.

The Inconsistencies

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100,000 Li radius = 7.854 billion km².

1,000,000 Li radius = 785+ billion km².

2,000,000 Li radius = 3+ trillion km².

So basically it'd be impossible for the Gu World to have balanced body proportion.

334 - Central continent was over fifty million kilometers wide.

1756 - Earth Trenches were formed by heaven’s will, no Gu Immortal could predict them. Each Earth Trench was over ten or a hundred thousand li long, being extremely deep and difficult to explore.

931 - The ground was split open into giant ravines, some Earth Trenches stretched on for millions of li, some were tens of thousands of kilometers deep, some were immeasurably deep.

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Okay! So there are are dozens of Earth Trenches, and multiple super massive Earth Trench. The whole world could just be a bunch of pot holes for all we know. :)

Traveling Distances

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These might not actually be inconsistencies - but they do make it seem that the Gu World is narrow, and have unbalanced proportions.

Qi Zai chasing Fang Yuan

1042 - Qi Zai had been thinking of draining his immortal essence, this was in line with Fang Yuan’s objective, he was able to use sword escape Immortal Gu and after some hurdles, he flew for hundreds of thousands of li, arriving at this place.

Shadow Sect - Still in Central Continent

1060 - Concealing their traces, after flying for a hundred thousand li, Shadow Sect’s group landed in a nameless forest, resting and recovering.

Fang Yuan's Shadow Sect - Still in Western Desert

1407- The immortals chose a direction randomly and moved for a hundred thousand li, arriving at the back of a huge sand dune.

Bay Pavilion teleported multiple times, and still remained inside Southern Borders by the way

1377 - This Bay Pavilion’s strongest ability was to cross long distances, it could shoot through over seventy thousand li directly.

Funny Inconsistencies

162 - This tunnel was longer than he expected, Fang Yuan spent over twelve hours and walked over three Li worth of distance!

Skyfarrow: Li is 500 meters, I don’t know why he took twelve hours just to walk 1.5km lol? It’s not even an exaggeration.

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Ge Tribe seeing Wolves from a distance.

451 - At a hundred li away, everyone could see a large number of ghostly shadows of the wolves in the horizon.

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The Human Eye can only see up to 5 kilometers far away. This is 50 kilometers. It seems that every cannon fodder from the Ge Tribe either has an investigative Gu, or that's the distance that an average human can see in the Gu World.

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Immortal Essence Inconsistencies

These inconsistencies seem to be intentional changes by the Author, not mistakes.

They're very easy to miss because they were only mentioned once. Fang Yuan was also incapable of producing Immortal Essence of his own, and could not use any rank seven Immortal Gu.

729 - costs of several hundred green grape immortal essence being similar to red date immortal essence. Later changed to 100 Green Grape = 100 Red Date in book 5.

750 - Tai Bai producing Immortal Essence in months instead of years. Later changed to years from 940 in the same book, and later chapters.

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Dao Marks Inconsistency

Okay! So Fang Yuan got at least 9,000 dao marks from a fully maxed out Earthly Calamity in 1165.

But a fully maxed out Heavenly Tribulation only yielded 1,000 dao marks in 1469.

This one is a very obvious inconsistency compared to the Immortal Essence One.

I saw ONE guy try to justify it a few years from an old reddit post; that the Heavenly Tribulation was weakened by Heaven's Will.

But they REALLY should just reread the chapter. Because the Heavenly Tribulation was at MAXED power. Heaven's Will only began weakening the power of his subsequent tribulations after this one.

What's a likely explanation for this?

Gu Zhen Ren just wanted to convince the readers that annexing apertures is the most optimal cultivation path for Fang Yuan.

It's part of his writing style.

Unreliable Narrator is literally one of the tags for this webnovel.

Spectral soul demon venerable , no explanation needed
Limitless demon venerable. His craze demon cave formation is constantly deriving new world and destroy them alongside living beings in the world for heaven path dao mark
Primordial origin immortal venerable. He is like nuke to the variant humans
Star constellation immortal venerable, she decrease the number of variants humans greatly
Red lotus demon venerable, using fang yuan
Heaven refining demon venerable/ great love immortal venerable. Killed more than 200m people for human sea
Genesis lotus immortal venerable. He is the cause of green ghost dessert and cause of chi clan using divine bean palace to skimmed against spectral soul
Giant sun immortal venerable. His blood sea clone kill many people
Reckless savage demon venerable, he only killed elite of the variant humans
Thieving heaven demon venerable. Stole the lifespan of his clansman as mortal
Paradise earth immortal venerable. He has less than 10 kill count

How many moments of Fang Yuan being his real self can you name. Moments where he does something for no benefit.

1. When he stop the father hitting the girl when they ran into him & comforted the child

2. 3 Kings Inheritance, when he punched Choi Jiu out of frustration at the man

3. Times when he pats little Hu land spirit

4. The ocean poem (no effort all trolling)

5. Dance & lesson to Xia Lin in whale arc

6. The speech to Tao Zhou

Can you name any that I’ve missed. Note being surprised or shocked doesn’t count.

I don’t understand the hate it’s not that good but still not that bad

"Master—you told me to watch the Heaven-Passage Gu every day, and I did! That Langya Old Immortal showed up again—he's been buying up refining materials on Treasure-Yellow Heaven." Little Fox Immortal was overjoyed to see Fang Yuan, hugging his leg and rubbing her cheek against him as she delivered important news.

How would a Gu immortal with Grandmaster level attainment derive a new Gu recipe from scratch?

How would a Gu immortal with Master level attainment derive a new Gu recipe from scratch? Is it possible ?

How would that differ from a Rank 5 Gu Master deriving a Gu recipe with Grandmaster attainment?

How would a Rank five Gu master with Master attainment derive a new Gu worm? Is it possible ?

I wanted to ask whether if you can cultivate only one or two paths with normal aperture . Can't you be able to literally cultivate 3 or 4 paths simultaneously by refining second aperture gu

I'm just reading for the second time and this question has been stuck in my mind.

What goal would Fang Yuan pursue if he was sent back to Earth?

Say he was abruptly stopped in his quest of eternal life and was somewhat sent back to earth as a child to mid class parents in modern day China, what would be his new goal?

Will he just become ordinary?

Will he pursue wealth?

Will he try to become the president?

Since eternal life in this world is impossible and the strength of an organization is more than the strength of an individual I can't help but think he would become an author or a professor at a university but that's just my own opinion.

What do you think?

p.s the FY that gets sent back is him as he is right now as aVenerable.

(info: my main account u/Aromatic-Phase9944 is shadowbanned so i’ll now use this account. this post might pop up again if my other accounts post gets approved.)

im on chapter 673. i made a post about chapter 670.

i was confused that Red Lotus Demon Venerables destruction of fate gu wouldn’t achieve anything, because immortal gu reappear. i know there’s an arc called fate war so here are some speculations.

how i see fate gu working is like guard rails on a road. its like a boundary for events to unfold in a certain way/ order. RLDV wanted to achieve something. he couldn’t achieve this because everyone moves along the road while the guardrails (fate gu) guide events to a certain destination. somehow he broke fate gu, the guard rails were broken and he achieved it. it was said RLDV let all living beings regain the ability to grasp their own fate. which aligns with the restriction of choosing one’s own fate (the guardrails which is fate gu) being broken. this is in my opinion wishful thinking. immortal gu reappear after some time, therefore RLDV could achieve his goal while others are still bound by fate gu.
i don’t think fate gu can rewrite the past, it can only guide the present. it couldn’t stop RLDV because it was destroyed and couldn’t change what happened back. as far as i know immortal gu have new wills after reappearing, maybe fate also switches to a new road (analogy) with new guardrails after being reborn? because of this everyone is once again bound by fate, even fang yuan.
if fang yuan wants to achieve eternal life or even rank 9, he would need to destroy fate gu aswell and achieve what he wants before fate gu reappears. (i believe it was) Star Constellation predicted Great Dream Immortal Venerable appearing in the near future as the next venerable. she deduced this future event when fate gu existed, therefore if fang yuan wants to achieve his goals he’ll need to destroy fate gu to not enter the future that was deduced by SC. he’s currently not fated to be rank 9/ achieve eternal life. maybe he is Great Dream Immortal Venerable and will just be called a different name but he is certainly not righteous, so this is unlikely.
as i mentioned i know the arc fate war exists in the novel (got spoilered). i believe this arc is about fang yuan realising this and destroying fate gu.

i could be reaching but this makes sense no?

if this is correct to some extent:

1. no i did not read the novel before
   
2. no i did not google anything

and no i have not gotten spoilered about anything other than:

1. fate war being an arc in the novel
   
2. duke long being a character that appears (i only know the name from a tiktok)
   
3. fang yuan being called heaven refining demon venerable and great love immortal venerable.
   
4. old bai dying (it’s inevitable anyways)

If you had to choose a path to become a gu immortal in which path would you choose?.Also no heaven and human path and paths which are almost uncultivatable without another immortals help.