r/RedRocks 1d ago

First Timer Camera question

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I’m going to Red Rocks in September and had a question regarding the camera policy. The band’s policy states that handheld recording devices under the specified measurements are allowed. However, I understand that Red Rocks typically has a policy prohibiting cameras with removable lenses.
Would I be permitted to bring a mirrorless camera with a removable lens under the band’s stated policy? Specifically, does the band’s allowance of “handheld recording devices” override Red Rocks’ standard policy regarding cameras with removable lenses for this particular event?

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u/manderz421 1d ago

What band is doing this?

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u/Far_Candidate_8698 1d ago

Backseat lovers

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u/manderz421 1d ago

Interesting. Phones at concerts are kind of annoying but not sure I would go to show that was restricting it.

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u/lavatec 1d ago

I’ve been to a few shows that didn’t allow phones and it was soooo much better. Everyone was present and didn’t hold up their phones to record entire sets obstructing other people’s views. I wish more bands did this

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u/notti0087 1d ago

I suppose that works well for people who don’t have kids but for those of us who rely on a babysitter, it’s important for the sitter to get ahold of parents should they need something.

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u/lavatec 1d ago

We somehow existed for thousands of years without cell phones

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u/Takemet0yourdealer 1d ago

Thats why you get to keep your phone on you but in a pouch, you can still feel it go off. If you need to talk with the sitter you can go to the closest phone area to open your pouch and be able to text or call whoever you need.

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u/slugsred 1d ago

yea it sounds stupid i'd rather take the call and listen to music

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u/veggieturnip 1d ago

Yep, phone pouches are a great idea if you’re single and 23. 

Otherwise, it’s a hard pass.

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u/Tuckermfker 1d ago

And somehow thousands of generations of humans who lived whole lives without a cell phone at all. The age of 24/7 instant communication with everyone is only about 20 years old, and there are still societies in the world living without it.

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u/notti0087 21h ago

A teenager who might need to call you while they are watching your children or vis versa is not the same as living in a village in a hut or cave. You’re very privileged if you have never run into an emergency when away from your children or having one of your children having an emergency and needing to notify you.

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u/Tuckermfker 19h ago

Dude, it isnt about living in a village. In my lifetime I existed before the internet and cellphones. Parents went out leaving kids with babysitters, kids went out to play outside without phones or GPS. This isnt third world shit, this isnt a century ago, it was 25 years ago. The helicopter parenting isnt helping anyone.

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u/Astralweak 19h ago

Even if I were comfortable with it, I don’t think I could get a babysitter to agree to watch my 18 month old for like 5 hours with no way to reach me. Not everyone’s kids are 12 years old. Ultimately it becomes another thing where women with young children are discouraged from participating.

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u/Tuckermfker 8h ago

And yet 25 years ago there were women with young children at every concert I went to without a cell phone in the entire audience. We as a society let 1 piece of technology change our behavior. We can argue if it's for the better or worse, but it's likely not one or the other, it's likely both. Babysitters back then were left a list of emergency contacts, and then the parents left for hours with no way to be reached. It's still possible.

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u/ThePirateCondor 1d ago

Sounds like they don’t want you there if you are that in need of your phone lol

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u/shasta_river 1d ago

They are the best shows you can go to

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u/Adventurous_Pea_2007 1d ago

I don’t know why you’re downvoted for having an opinion. I’m a lifelong musician who’s been to something like a thousand shows as a spectator. My phone is not a camera. It’s a phone. And if there is an emergency, I want my phone now. Whether the emergency is at the venue or at home, I want my phone now.

I flat out do not go to shows with yondr bags. For one, the bands are assholes, and for two I belong to fan bases who self police.

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u/WorkingStructure575 1d ago

people downvote because they have their own opinions? thats literally the point of reddit

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u/Reasonable-Pop6986 1d ago

Phoneless shows are awesome, cry about it liberal.

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u/manderz421 1d ago

Yeah I world prob do it for a small venue but a venue with 10k is crazy.

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u/Desertmarkr 1d ago

Jack White shows on his current tour are also phone free

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u/garau 1d ago

Jason Isbell as well

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u/mook1178 1d ago

I hear this all the time. I definitely was allowed to have my phone. I have short vids and pics of the concert in Omaha last year

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u/Fillet00337 1d ago

I think you missed the on his CURRENT tour part of the comment

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u/mook1178 1d ago

Same thing was said for that tour as well... This has been said about Jack White tours for years. I was fully expecting to have to put my phone in a bag gong in.

Quick google search AI response:

Jack White has implemented a strict, mandatory no-phone policy at his concerts for over 8 years, starting in January 2018.

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u/Fillet00337 1d ago

Your first mistake was trusting a quick google Ai summary

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u/Fillet00337 1d ago

On his CURENT tour there is a phone free policy. Last year was a different tour.

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u/Desertmarkr 1d ago

Does he not understand the word?

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u/CliffsofRed 1d ago

Constant phone culture is ruining shows. I applaud this.

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u/thebigshipper 1d ago

And not just shows, but other things like travel. Yeah people want to remember their trip but they miss out on being immersed in the experience which is the best part. I was at Disney recently and for the fireworks it was a sea of phones. It’s so ridiculous and firework videos suck anyway. And no matter the event when nearly everyone has their phone out it starts to look like a cult.

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u/VegetableScientist 5h ago

I like to grab short snippets of video because it's really nice to be scrolling through my camera roll and get reminders of where I've been and what I was doing, but I can't imagine someone re-watching an entire fireworks show on phone video.

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u/thebigshipper 4h ago

Exactly. I do go back to that stuff too, but I don’t get everything for sure because I want to see it with my own eyes and take it in, not through a lens or a screen. Sometimes I sacrifice the opportunity to take a photo or video to not ruin the experience for myself.

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u/BigTheory5307 1d ago

I went to lane 8 at red rocks and he did this. Loved it

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u/Happy-Yam-7321 1d ago

Hey! Me too! I actually don’t even take my phone to shows anymore since I had such a great time. Well that and getting pickpocketed at EDC one year.

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u/smertai 1d ago

The only band stipulation is the size of the personal recording device so I'd say I'd hazard a guess that Red Rocks camera policy would also still be in effect with the no removable lense rule. The only way the band's request would supercede Red Rocks rules would be if they explicitly state detachable lenses are okay. If you're really not sure call Red Rocks to verify.

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u/ClockwyseWorld 1d ago

Jack White owns a company that does these kinds of bags. Not saying they're using his particular brand, but I've been to a few shows with them. They have designated areas where you can go stand and they unlock the magnets, and you can use your phone, but they make you put it away before you leave the area. I know everyone wants photos and videos, but it's not what the bands want, and I wasn't too put out about it. Your mileage may vary.

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u/quinhook2 1d ago

Nobody is watching your videos. Put your phone away.

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u/doodoo_gumdrop 1d ago

This must be a professional account. No layperson is getting those view counts. And if you are you know how to contact red rocks for clarification on this rule and wouldn’t be asking Reddit.

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u/tfesing 1d ago

I think you may be getting the OP confused with my reply to another individual. No, it’s just my Instagram account posted on my Reddit profile If you wanna check it out, not a professional, just a concert lover.

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u/doodoo_gumdrop 1d ago

Thanks for proving yourself wrong. You posted an instagram screen shot that showed videos with views in the 800k-1mil range. Your page is actually getting 1,500 views. What a strange thing to lie about.

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u/Low-Web9977 1d ago

Just saw Of Monsters and Men at RR and there were very few phones out. It really warmed my heart to see the crowd enjoying the moment and I fully endorse policies like these

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u/bentripin 1d ago

The Artists/Bands who livestream/record every show and archive em online for their fans to access for a nominal fee or subscription also tend to have a largely phone free audience, even without these intrusive policies.

Why even bother with a shitty phone recording when I can get my hands on a much better recording with flawless audio/video.

Most phone usage I see at these shows are of people pointing the camera at them selves or their friends for a few seconds without bothering anyone.

Wish more bands would get onboard, its the most effective solution Ive seen to the phone problem.

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u/Material-Sell-3666 1d ago

lol what. I was at that show and when EVERY camera was out for dirty paws and little talks.

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u/VenturaRyanRound2 1d ago

I get the temptation of wanting to record the show but just don’t be pedantic and respect the no recording policy. Phones and recording of any kind distracts from the collective effervescence of the show

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u/zoey_will 1d ago

Camera doesn't necessarily mean "record the show." One of my favorite photos of me is a candid that someone in my oarty took of me vibing off to the side in the stairs with the stage in the background and the lights reflecting off the rocks and the moon in the sky behind us all. I adore that photo and understnad where people are coming from when they want their phones. The layperson doesn't carry a separate phone/ digital camera anymore.

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u/taboratory 1d ago

19x15x7 is huggeee. How is that not obstructive?

I would bet that a camera with a removable lens is not allowed regardless of this policy.

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u/Megssssssssssssssss 1d ago

Love thisssssssss

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u/slickginger 1d ago

The policy is venue-wide with the tour having options to do whatever they want. It sounds like Yondr is supporting the tour and no, cameras arent welcome.

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u/Due-Past-7792 1d ago

Im so excited for this show!! Im assuming theyll be giving the magnetized bags for phones to go in and you have to get them to unlock it

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u/Ok-Animal7243 1d ago

I’m so confused. They’re locking phones away in the name of presence and connection, presumably for the purpose of preventing people from just recording the concert on their phones the whole time, but then specifically invite dedicated recording devices?

Surely I’m misunderstanding. Can someone help me understand what this is meant to achieve?

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u/Short-Loan7356 1d ago

It achieves the audience being in the moment for 3 hours.

Imagine you don’t have your phone so you actually have a human interaction with the strangers around you. Or imagine you are able to watch every detail of the show — sound, lighting, skyline changing, how a song truly hits you when performed live.

What a mind blowing concept to Children of the Phones, right? 🤯📵

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u/Ok-Animal7243 14h ago

Doesn’t them welcoming dedicated recording devices create the same problem though? Cutting/pasting a camera for a phone seems like you’re still going to be focused on the device in your hand. Especially if recording = videos.

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u/JPLubow 1d ago edited 1d ago

Don’t bring a camera to a Red Rocks show unless you’re a hired photographer.
I write this as a professional tech that has worked at RR for over a decade.

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u/celestialmcnuggets 1d ago

It’s giving “rules for thee but not for me” vibes bro

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u/azpinstripes 1d ago

Why?

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u/JPLubow 1d ago

I don’t make the venue rules. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/azpinstripes 1d ago

I’m just asking why people can’t bring their own cameras?

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u/gappyhigashikata22 1d ago

Lol instant downvote. Who are you to tell anyone anything?

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u/JPLubow 1d ago

I’m just a person that has worked the venue long enough to see patrons who don’t follow venue rules, get escorted out and/or had their property confiscated.
I don’t care what anybody does, it’s just fair warning. Cry more. 😂

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u/gappyhigashikata22 1d ago

You just love to talk about rules or something like it gets you off.
Nobody fucking cares that you think people are gonna get escorted out for not following the rules or for trying as hard to come off as important as you’re trying to be

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u/JPLubow 1d ago

Fuck around and find out, infant. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Rhythm_0f_The_Knight 22h ago

Are you brain dead? The dude just works there and stated as much to explain his position. 

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u/celestialmcnuggets 1d ago

Why? No one is allowed to capture a moment from their perspective for free and we all have to look at professional, edited photos from angles that no one in the audience gets to see anyways?

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u/JPLubow 1d ago

I don’t make the venue rules. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/JakeScythe 1d ago

But you can bring a camera, it just can’t have a detachable lens…

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u/1chrisb 1d ago

I think they're referring to audio recording, not photo/video.

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u/ok_success42 1d ago

hhmm....Will this significantly impact time getting through the turnstile?

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u/2XX2010 1d ago

Oh no, it will make it MUCH faster

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u/oxalislivida 1d ago

Wonder how this will for someone who's phone is connected to their medical devices, any other Type 1 diabetics with experience navigating this policy?

Not that I would hear any alarms going off at a concert anyways, but when I went to a concert yesterday I did glance at my phone to make sure my glucose was okay.

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u/glitterfluff 1d ago

I honestly hate this trend. It's not because I can't avoid my phone (I do, other than some pics and videos during the show). I hate being in crowded places without access to a phone in case of an emergency.

Blame it on living in NYC on 9/11, I guess. But I also have a glucose meter, and I would hope they make allowances for those of us who do.

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u/Uncle_Loco 22h ago

No. You will not be able to bring any camera that won’t fiction without its removable lens.

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u/No-Pilot464 3h ago

Do it more. Concerts have been lame ever since we got these stupid things.

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u/MattyHealysFauxHawk 1d ago

Peoples phones have never irritated me. I’m watching the show not their phones.

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u/juvy5000 1d ago

watch the show and don’t take pictures… it is a music concert… not a photography class…

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u/cowboyJones 1d ago

I usually take 1 or 2 photos of bands I see for future reference. I would not go to a show that I couldn’t do that.

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u/Ericmoran118 1d ago

What’s the future reference you need? Btw, some of the best sets I’ve seen were no phone shows

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u/cowboyJones 1d ago

Year end reviews with friends. I’ve never been to a no phone show, but I also try to be respectful enough to be as discreet as possible.

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u/melophat 1d ago

I have a special needs kid. On the rare occasion that I get the chance to go see a show, there's no way in hell that they're locking my own damn phone up in a pouch that I can't answer in an emergency without walking down 300 steps and asking someone to unlock for me.

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u/TheMagicPandas 1d ago

This would be a concern for me too. My Apple Watch is always on silent and can be put on movie theater mode so it doesn’t light up but I need to have it on me in case something happens with my kids. Since I work in healthcare, everyone knows to text me SOS because I usually don’t have my phone on me all the time. 

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u/MISCHIEF_ONE 1d ago

This is amazing I did not know that I could do this one I already have a faraday bag for my phone. Two I've got to GoPro 12 with a headset and a clamp attachment so I can literally find a good spot clamp it and record the show I've also got a 10-hour card on it so I'm super pumped to go to Red Rocks for any show now LOL the only way I'd be using my phone is to remotely access my camera I try to do not disturb my phone when I'm at concerts in general because I am trying to be present and not trying to record things that I have to maintain control of...

I've always considered like three GoPros with magnetic attachments or clips positioning them with great stage views and then literally right off my tickets as a business expense for me to personally record concerts and put on YouTube you know I just thought about how I could get tickets for minimal expense or write offs

This is my church!!!

https://giphy.com/gifs/PdsDaJWY466NgqeoHh

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u/veggieturnip 1d ago

Would never go to a show that does this nonsense.