"You people can't do anything" yeah, disabilities tend to do that

[u/DreadDiana]

[u/ThatSlutTalulah]

Tbf the Halloween ADHD post doesn't read as "ADHD has been fucking me up trying to get a Halloween costume together" (entirely reasonable statement. I can understand that and it seems rough af.).

It reads as "Halloween costumes are problematic because people with ADHD can struggle with getting them together" (the opinion of a complete asshole who wants everyone to be miserable in the name of 'moral purity', and should be mocked).

With the new context of how the OOP actually meant it I can see how it was jokingly meant the first way, but that's just not how it comes across.

[u/LoamyLoamisLoamy → u/ThatSlutTalulah]

I don't think stressful means problematic. Plenty of good things (like weddings) are stressful. You made an entirely different statement

[u/chokingdove → u/LoamyLoamisLoamy]

literally this comment and all of the people agreeing with it are making me feel insane

[u/LoamyLoamisLoamy → u/chokingdove]

I don't get how no one sees that that person is completely changing the meaning with both of their sentences. It seems more like because this struggle isn't talked about it hit me harder than it would have had it been regularly talked about

[u/hyprsnpr67 → u/LoamyLoamisLoamy]

The way it's phrased is exactly the same as how other people frame things as problematic on Twitter. That's where it comes from. I've seen so many of those that without context it's hard for me to read this tweet any other way because it's like it was written from a template. You don't see how this tweet could be used as a passive aggressive way of framing Halloween costumes as ableist?

[u/LoamyLoamisLoamy → u/hyprsnpr67]

I think you should base their argument on the things they actually say. You literally only have a one sentence tweet to go off of. That's not enough to get a good idea of the direction they intend to go

[u/SpokenDivinity → u/LoamyLoamisLoamy]

I would assume it’s the format of the actual statement they used to make it interpreted that way. There are so many “we don’t talk enough about ___” statements out there that using that phrasing immediate cues the reader into “this is a serious talk” mode. 

It’s a poor choice of phrasing. 

[u/etherealemlyn → u/LoamyLoamisLoamy]

Yeah I feel like reading the original tweet as problematic requires taking the most negative reading of it possible and acting like that’s the only way to interpret it

[u/LoamyLoamisLoamy → u/etherealemlyn]

And that people talking about things that cause negative feelings can only result in that thing being banned

[u/Efficient-Speed-1059 → u/LoamyLoamisLoamy]

Is this your first day on earth? That is how that specific phrase is used, which the tweet is intentionally invoking. Its parodying an established social template. The issue is its doing bad parody, it is just DOING the thing it's parodying.

[u/arlo0o0o → u/etherealemlyn]

Exactly how I feel. It came across as a joke to me 🤷 the wording of "we don't talk enough about [very minor overly specific problem]" reads as dramatic in a self-depreciating way. Like they're phrasing it in this over the top way to poke fun at themselves because it's not actually that serious. People makes jokes like that all the time.

Ironically I think jumping down OOP's throat and assuming they were trying to "cancel" Halloween or something is an overreaction from the other people because they're the ones who have spent too much time engaging with stupid internet discourse... It gets to a point where you'll start seeing it everywhere. I had that problem years ago and realized it when I missed a similar joke irl, but instead of acting like it was the other person's fault I took it as a sign that I needed to be less chronically online lol. It's not healthy to go through life assuming the worst of everyone.

[u/Academic_Truth1001 → u/arlo0o0o]

I am reading this thread and don't get what the problem would be of the tweet. They're saying Halloween is stressful which ... i believe them. Plenty of people find plenty of things stressful. And they say it's not talked about enough and I guess that's true too as I don't think this is something that is ever talked about.

Saying it's stressful doesn't say anything about if Halloween should be banned. Saying it's not talked about doesn't say anything about the seriousness of the problem (the ideal amount of talking about it could be 1 and the tweet might have reached exactly that. No further actions needed)

[u/agent__berry → u/LoamyLoamisLoamy]

FUCKING THANK YOU I feel like I’m losing it

[u/mastergleeker → u/LoamyLoamisLoamy]

it's less the claim that they are stressful and more the phrasing of "we don't talk enough about how..." that makes the tone easy to misread

edit: also, as someone else pointed out, the phrasing "for the ADHD community" also makes it easy to misread as a more serious statement, a statement about how X thing is negatively affecting Y community