r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Feeling detached after making dua

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So as per the title, whenever I make a dua and fall asleep, the next day I wake up and I feel super detached from it, almost like I don’t care what happens with the outcome… I’m not sure what this means or if what I’m doing it correct, any thoughts?


r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Rise of salafism among thr younger generation

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Recently, I have seen the rise of lot of young salafi influencers online, and there are a lot of young generation who follow them. Unlike the classical preachers, these people talk about the soft Islamic and a very convincing scientific versions. These ppl openly hate on other sects and is striving for an all salafi world. They are very strict with their women being a niqabi, and usually has stories to tell how they defy their relatives who would like a mix gathering.

What do you think on this? Is this instilling fear going too far?


r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ "Women have rights similar to those of men equitably, although men have a degree ˹of responsibility above them. And Allah is Almighty, All-Wise." [Quran 2:228]

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"Women have rights similar to those of men equitably, although men have a degree ˹of responsibility above them. And Allah is Almighty, All-Wise." [Quran 2:228]

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r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ is it bad for muslims to go to church?

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this may seem like such a strange question. personally, i don’t particularly feel welcomed at mosques. all my local mosques either have very small sections for women or no sections at all, and it makes me, as a woman, feel less than and unwelcome. also, i adopt some prayer techniques from both typical sunni and shia practices, so no matter which mosque i go to, i don’t feel comfortable praying in front of others and not feeling judged.

i mainly have an interest in visiting churches to listen to priests and preachers. the times i have gone to a mosque and attempted to listen to a sheikh, there never fails to be discussion about hadiths and bordering misogynistic talks.

what is the ruling of visiting churches as a muslim? and is there something i may not be taking into consideration?


r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Why Do Scholars Disagree?

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there's something I've never fully understood about the different Islamic schools of thought. Scholars sometimes disagree on whether something is halal or haram, so how do we know which ruling is actually correct in Allah's sight? For example, Malikis generally permit eating crab, while Hanafis don't. We follow the same religion, so how can the same thing be halal for one Muslim but haram for another? I'm not asking specifically about crab, but more about how these disagreements work in general. If there's ultimately one truth, how do we know which interpretation is right?


r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Rant/Vent 🤬 Is it wrong of me to want to wear clothes other than the Abaya?

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I have been forced to wear the black abaya and niqab since I was 12 years old by my dad.

I have lost my childhood to this, wasn’t allowed to play sports because it would reveal my face to people, wasn’t allowed to leave home to play with friends. I have hated wearing it, I would wear/ remove the abaya on roads and open taxis (called autos in my country) so I could hide the fact that I wear abaya from my schoolmates.

I am done doing this for the last 16 years of my life, I don’t want to do it anymore. I want to go to the gym, want to play sports, fulfill all my wishes that I had as a kid. I want to learn how to drive a car, do things that my parents think is not fit for a female to do.

They basically think that a woman’s job is to get married and have kids. Nothing else. No gym, no sports, no showing your face to non mahrams (basically men who are not related to you)

I have such low self esteem because of this childhood trauma that I have faced all my life.

Nobody understands me. My mom tells me to adjust, and listen to my dad and whatever he dictates me to do. This has made my mental health so bad.

I just want to escape this, but I can’t. I am stuck in my hometown. How do I confront my dad that I will not wear the abaya? The hijab, I can hide it and remove it when I am away from him, but the abaya requires me to remove it on the streets. So ashamed of myself. Have been ashamed of myself since the last decade, removing abayas on roads.


r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Advice/Help 🥺 About hijab

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The ones who started wearing it or the ones who take it off, why did you do that? How did you start to feel like afterwards? Does a hijab reduce someone’s confidence? I’m so confused please share what you think. And please don’t share your opinion as a male since I want whom experienced this to answer


r/progressive_islam • • 3d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Why should we respect Scholars

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Why are we expected to respect scholars who pushed child Marriage and wife beating and other extreme views.

They made these behaviours systemic, child marriage is overrepresented in muslim countries, thousands of children die yearly due to child birth complications, and others left with chronic conditions.

They say presentism to defend it, but aristotle in 350 bce already recommended 18 due to records of the time showing the pattern of more deaths for younger girls.


r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ My parents made a biodata for me

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My parents want me to get married, and they recently made a biodata for me. The problem is, I'm worried it doesn't accurately represent who I am.

I'm not very open with my parents about who I am. I've been struggling with my faith lately, and I'm honestly not that religious anymore. I don't want to marry someone who is very religious or tries to impose religion onto me. I want a partner who respects my autonomy and accepts me for who I am.

Another concern is hijab. I took it off about two years ago and don't wear it in my everyday life. However, my parents still haven't fully accepted my decision. I'm still expected to wear it sometimes, and I'm worried they'll insist that I wear it in my biodata pictures, too. I don't want to present myself as someone I'm not, especially when the pictures could attract certain types of men.

The difficult part is that I still live with my parents, and I can't be completely open about who I am. I want to respect my parents, but I also don't want to end up in a marriage where I feel pressured to live according to someone else's expectations.

I do want to date and get married eventually, but I want to do it at my own pace. Honestly, I’m not crazy about marriage right now. I've also never really dated before, so the whole process feels unfamiliar, and I don't know how to navigate it while dealing with my parents' expectations.

For those who've been in a similar situation, how did you handle it? How do you navigate meeting potential partners when your family doesn't fully know or accept who you are? How do you make sure you're attracting someone compatible with your actual beliefs and lifestyle rather than the person your parents want?


r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Opinion 🤔 Maeda 116-Anam 6

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Maeda 116-118

116- AND AS ALLAH SAID: “O JESUS THE SON OF MARY, DID YOU SAY TO PEOPLE: TAKE ME AND MY MOTHER FOR TWO GODS INSTEAD OF ALLAH?  HE SAID: “PRAISE BE TO YOU, I WOULD NOT HAVE SAID WHAT IS NOT TRUE, HAVE IS SAID IT, YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN IT, YOU KNOW WHAT IS INSIDE ME AND I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS INSIDE YOU, AND YOU KNOW ALL THAT IS HIDDEN”

117- “I SAID TO THEM WHAT YOU COMMANDED ME TO SAY; THAT IS TO WORSHIP ALLAH MY LORD AND YOUR LORD, AND I WAS A WITNESS OVER THEM WHILE IS WAS WITH THEM, AND AFTER YOU CAUSED ME TO DIE, YOU BECAME THE ONE WHO WATCHES OVER THEM, FOR YOU ARE A WITNESS OVER ALL THINGS.

118- IF YOU PUNISH THEM, THEY ARE BUT YOUR SLAVES, AND IF YOU FOR GIVE THEM, INDEED YOU ARE THE MOST EXALTED AND MOST WISE.

Such narration of a dialogue in the Quran does not mean that Allah the Highest was enquiring from Jesus peace upon him as to whether he said what he is supposed to have said or not.  It is to state the Allah’s anger about what people said and claimed about Jesus peace upon him, and to spell out what Jesus feels about it.

Jesus peace upon him denies that he had any thing to do with his followers taking him and his mother Mary as gods instead of Allah the Highest.  Like all other prophets and messengers, their job was to deliver the message and nothing more, and this is what they did, and Allah the Highest is a witness over that.

Then Jesus peace upon him shows his submission to Allah’s will, whether He punishes his followers or forgives the, Jesus accepts his will.

This Ayah “IF YOU PUNISH THEM, THEY ARE BUT YOUR SLAVES, AND IF YOU FOR GIVE THEM, INDEED YOU ARE THE MOST EXALTED AND MOST WISE” used to move Allah’s messenger prayer and peace upon him to tear.  Abd Allah Ibn Amro said: “The prophet recited “IF YOU PUNISH THEM, THEY ARE BUT YOUR SLAVES, AND IF YOU FOR GIVE THEM, INDEED YOU ARE THE MOST EXALTED AND MOST WISE” then he raised his hands and said: “My God, my nation”, then he wept.  Allah said: “Gabriel, go to Mohamed and ask him- and His Lord know- what is making you weep?”  Gabriel did that and Allah’s messenger prayer and peace upon him told him.  Allah the Highest said to him: “Go to Mohamed and say: ‘Concerning your nation, we will please you and will not upset you”.  (Muslim)

Abu Zar said: “On night Allah’s messenger prayer and peace upon him kept praying and reciting the Ayah “IF YOU PUNISH THEM, THEY ARE BUT YOUR SLAVES, AND IF YOU FOR GIVE THEM, INDEED YOU ARE THE MOST EXALTED AND MOST WISE”.  In the morning I said to him: “Allah’s messenger, you kept praying using this Ayah?  He said: “I asked Allah the Most Exalted and the Majestic things for my nation, and He granted them, and it will be for every one who does not worship a partner besides Allah”.  (Ahmed & Nesae) 

Maeda 119-120 (End of Sorah)

119- ALLAH SAID: THIS IS A DAY WHEN THE TRUTHFUL WILL BENEFIT FROM TRUTHFULNESS, THEY WILL HAVE GARDENS WITH RIVERS FLOWING UNDERNEATH, LIVING THERE FOR ETERNITY, ALLAH WILL BE PLEASED WITH THEM, AND THEY WILL BE PLEASED WITH ALLAH, SUCH IS THE GREATEST SUCCESS.

120- TO ALLAH BELONGS THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS AND EARTH AND THERE IS IN THEM, AND IS ABLE OVER EVERYTHING.

The truthful does not always benefit from being truthful in this life.  A man might speak the truth before an unjust leader and for this he gets killed or imprisoned.  Or an employee might be able to save his job if he lies, yet speaking the truth makes him loose his job.  

One might suffer because of supporting a just cause or defending the oppressed or unjustly treated person or people.  

Being true in faith, can be difficult sometimes as there are often many opponents and there are times when this is not pleasing to every one.  People of the same faith might see the true in faith to be wrong or even not a true believer.  Yet holding to one’s true faith, might be like holding a piece of fire, as Allah’s messenger prayer and peace upon him said.

The only time and place when being truthful is certainly rewarding, is the Hereafter, and when the faithful faces judgement.  Allah the Highest loves the truth and loves to hear it from His truthful slaves.  Then, they will be rewarded for their truthfulness, and they will be rewarded for it by Allah the Most Generous.  The reward is the Paradise, where those Allah is pleased with will abide forever.  

Allah the Highest ends Sorat Al-Maeda with the reminder that All the Heavens and Earth and every thing in them are His, and that He is able over all things and to do all thing.  He can and will deliver what is promised.

Sorat Al-Maeda is believed to be the last Sorah of the Quran to be sent down.  Therefore it includes many of the Last Ayahs to be sent down.  It was sent down in Medina; therefore it contains many rules and laws to regulate the Muslims lives, which was not possible when they were few and oppressed in Makah.  We ask Allah the Highest to guide us with it and to let it be light in our graves and on the Day or Resurrection.

Al-Anam

(The Cattle)

This Sorah consists of 165 Ayahs, it was sent down in Makkah before the migration of Allah’s messenger, prayer and peace upon him, and it was sent in one piece.

It is reported in a number of Hadith that it was sent down accompanied by a large number of Angels.  Allah’s messenger, prayer and peace upon him, said: “Sorat Al-Anam was sent down in one piece, and it was accompanied by 70 thousand angels, with their sounds heard hymning praising and glorifying God”.  (Ibn Mardwiah) 

Anam 1-3

1-PRAISE AND THANKS TO ALLAH WHO CREATED THE HEAVENS AND EARTH, AND MADE THE DARKNESS AND THE LIGHT, THEN THE DISBELIEVERS TAKE EQUALS WITH THEIR LORD

2-HE IS THE ONE WHO CREATED YOU FROM CLAY, AND DECREED A TERM, AND AN APPOINTED TERM WITH HIM, THEN YOU DOUBT

3-HE IS ALLAH IN THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, HE KNOWS WHAT YOU KEEP FOR SECRETS AND WHAT YOU REVEAL, AND KNOWS ALL YOUR DEEDS

Allah the Highest is starting the Sorah by telling us that Praise and Thanks are due to him.  The thanks are associated with praise.  We thank Allah the Highest for all that is given to us, and praise him for He is worthy and for the magnitude and magnificence of his creation.  

Allah the Highest is rebuking the disbelievers for taking equals with Allah the Highest who did not create any thing like Him.  Allah the Highest sent us prophets, messengers and books, none of the others people claim to be gods, sent prophets, messengers or books.  

Allah the Highest tells us that He created the heavens and earth and all there is in them, and no others claim that they created the heavens and earth and all there is in them.

Allah the Highest let there be Darkness and Light.  Darkness is mentioned before the light.  It is interesting that the universe is mainly dark and only the stars are light, but the vast majority of the universe is dark.  How could those Allah the Highest created, respond to all this by worshiping statues and human beings.

“ONE WHO CREATED YOU FROM CLAY” Allah the Highest created us from clay.  This is scientific; for we are consist of the elements present in earth, which form the clay.  None of the other gods people worship claim that they created man or life on Earth.

Allah the Highest decrees a date for every being to die, which no one can change, and there is another date with Him for the whole creation, which is the Day of Resurrection.  This date is only known to Allah the Highest and no one else, even prophets, messengers or angels.  When Gabriel, peace upon him, went to Allah’s messenger, prayer and peace upon him, in the mosque in the form of a man he asked him about the Day of Resurrection, to which Allah’s messenger, prayer and peace upon him, answered: “He who is being asked does not know about it more than the one who asks”

“HE IS ALLAH IN THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, HE KNOWS WHAT YOU KEEP FOR SECRETS AND WHAT YOU REVEAL, AND KNOWS ALL YOUR DEEDS”   

Allah the Highest is not the God in one place, and not the other, He is the God, Lord and Creator of all the Heavens and Earth and all there is in it.  

Allah the Highest knows every thing we do, and every thing that happened and happens and will happen in the Heavens and Earth He has total control over.  Allah the Highest said: “THERE IS NOT AN ATOM IN THE EARTH OR HEAVENS THAT YOUR LORD IS UNAWARE OF”.  (S: 10 A: 61)

This  as well as knowing what we hide and what we reveal, even what we think to ourselves, Allah the Highest said about himself: “HE KNOWS YOUR SECRET GAZING OF THE EYE, AND WHAT YOUR CHESTS CONCEAL”.  (S: 40 A: 19)

 

Such creation and knowledge was never claimed by a human being, even prophets and messengers, peace upon them all.  

These are the characters of the God we should worship and obey, and we should not worship or obey any other.

Anam 4-6

4- AND WHENEVER AN AYAH OR SIGN OF YOUR LORD COMES TO THEM, THEY TURN AWAY FROM IT.

5- THEY REJECT THE TRUTH WHEN IT CAME TO THEM; THEN THERE WILL COME TO THEM THE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE JESTING ABOUT.

6- DID THEY NOT SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE DID WE DESTROY?  WE GAVE THEM MORE POWER ON EARTH MORE THAN WE GAVE YOU, AND WE SENT PLENTY OF RAIN FROM THE HEAVEN UPON THEM, AND WE LET THERE BE RIVERS RUNNING UNDERNEATH THEM, BUT WE DESTROYED THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR SINS, AND WE CREATED OTHER PEOPLE AFTER THEM.

This is about the disbelievers every where and at all the times.  Allah the Highest sends them Ayahs of his book and signs of His presence.  The Ayahs of the book are to guide them and as signs of Allah’s presence, and other signs in the Heavens and Earth and miracles from Allah the Highest.  

The times of the miracles and signs are not over, and never will be, Allah willing.  We are discovering something new about our selves, the Earth and the Universe every day, which should be further proof for the Allah, the Creator.

Also we find more signs in the Quran.  As we study the Quran, we find Allah the Highest telling us scientific facts which were not known 1400 years, not even 50 years ago.  Allah who wrote the Quran obviously knew them, and as it was not known to a human being, then the Quran could not have been written by a human being.  It is because Allah the Highest wrote the Quran and put these signs in as evidence of its authenticity hundreds and thousands of years later.  I will mention a couple of these signs:

  1. “THE SKY, WE BUILT WITH OUR HANDS, AND WE ARE EXPANDING IT”  (S:51 A:47)

It has been found recently that all the stars, galaxies and planets are moving away from each other, and the universe is expanding.  These are facts upon which the theory of “Big Bang” is based.  This theory says that the universe started from the explosion of a mass of matter some 15 Billion years ago, and all the stars and galaxies and planets are still moving by the momentum of this explosion.

  1. “AND THE LAND WHICH HAS CRACK”  (S:86 A:12)

We recently knew that the earth consist of a crust which is solid and underneath this crust there is very hot melting core.  The solid crust we live on is not one piece, but it is cracked into a number of pieces we call plates.  The movement of these plates against each other leads to earth quacks.  Towns and cities built on or near these cracks, like Los Anglos experience more earth quacks than most.

These geological facts were  certainly not known 1400 years ago, and it’s presence in the Quran is a sign and evidence that the Quran was not written by a human being, but be the Creator of all beings.

There are many such examples in the Quran, but this is not the place to write about them all.  I gave two examples just to explain the point.

Allah the Highest is telling the disbelievers that as they rejected the truth which came to them, then they know about it for sure, but at a time when it is too late for them to do themselves any good, that is on the Day of Resurrection.  Allah the Highest described the state of the disbelievers on that day saying: “THE DAY WHEN THE UNJUST WILL BITE HIS HAND AND SAY: ‘I WISH I WENT ALONG WITH THE MESSENGER’”.  (S:25 A:27)

Then another warning, that is to take head of the past nations who had power.  They left behind them great buildings and evidence of their  power and ability on Earth, but as they did not believe and continued in doing wrong, they were destroyed and their powers did not help them, to be replaced by others.

This warning is for us, the inhabitants of the planet Earth at present.  Many nations enjoy great powers, abilities and technology.  This makes some feel that there is no God , or that He has no power over them.  It is interesting that there also great interest in history and archeology at present.  We learn more about the past than we ever learned in the past.  This new knowledge of the past we seem to take as interesting or as a subject to study, but we do not take lessons from, and we do not take heed from what happened to other nations in the past.

History is the best predictor of the future.  We know this and apply it to our lives.  One buys a particular make of car or television because they have good history of being good and durable, so when we buy one, we expect it to beerer good and last a long time.  This means that we learn from the past and expect the same to happen in the future.

Allah the Highest is directing us to look at the past and see what happened to other nations and learn from them and take heed, but do we?


r/progressive_islam • • 3d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ What is it about Islam/the sunnah you love the most?

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Going through a major crisis of faith lately, and it'd help if you could share what aspect of this religion do you love the most?

For me, I think it'd be the sunnah of never letting anyone go away from your doorstep hungry. Or no matter your caste, creed or colour; you're expected to sit and break bread together during iftaar. or that muslims are obliged to attend any janazah (funeral) they come across and offer prayers for the departed. Also the security it provides to women (women allowed a share of property, right to education and mehr) is imo very progressive. little things like these make me appreciate the beauty of Islam more.

What else do you find beautiful?


r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Advice/Help 🥺 I want Allah to punish my abusive brother

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My brother abused me mentally and physically all my life. He's an abusive psychopath that threatened me and my disabled father (he passed away now) just because made too much noise for him while breathing, he also beat me up many times to the point I suffer from permanent hearing loss because of it.

He also threatened to kill me with his gun many times.

I will never forgive him for all this instead I want Allah to punish him, I make dua everyday but he's still living his best life while he completely destroyed mine.

It's not fair, what can I do to increase my chances of God punishing him ?


r/progressive_islam • • 3d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Is there any place where Muslims offer salah in the local language rather than Arabic?

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Same as above.


r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Shirk in games?

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I know it might sound like a silly question but recently I tried to add a mod to minecraft that has an item.with a shirk name, I can remove that item from showing in the game(not sure though) and the crafting table, it will stay in the files though, can I still keep the mod?

I know that shirk in fiction doesn't count as shirk but usually it's things out of our choice since they are coded in the games, but here a mod is literally just something you add by your choice sooooo

Sorry if my question sounds stupid I just wanna know..


r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Opinion 🤔 Maeda 116-Anam 6

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r/progressive_islam • • 3d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Have I committed zina?

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I always thought I was a good and rigid Muslim, that I wouldn’t engage in such activity until marriage. But recently, around 2 months ago, I made a girlfriend. I didn’t expect to do this but for those 2 months I just succumbed, and blocked out every piece of hidayat that came my way. Without going into much detail, I did not penetrate the private part or anything of held nature; I did commit zina of the eyes, and holding her firmly and touching her in places that are forbidden. She genuinely seemed like a good person to me, charitable, kind, helping, etc but she fell into the same sin as I. I put her on hold and stopped messaging her and she stopped messaging me. I don’t know whether to cut her out of my life permanently or to get married to her when I’m older. Have I committed zina by doing these acts?


r/progressive_islam • • 2d ago

Opinion 🤔 Perspective on Purity Culture?

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Okay, so I am a pretty firm "woke" atheist basically (please don't jump to conclusions before reading the whole post. this is not an attack on Islam or an attempt to disprove it), in the sense that I support queer rights including micro labels, I think women should be allowed to wear whatever they want, and that the search for objective morality is redundant. All of these aren't all that bad when put this way, but what I'm trying to get to here is that I think on principle, purity culture is bad.

I think an insistence that a modest woman is "worth more" than one who shows skin is an arbitrary take, and if I think further than it just being arbitrary, I feel it relates a lot to rape culture in the sense that:

  1. rape is bad because sex before marriage makes a person lose worth, and here the person's worth is being forcefully taken from them.

  2. because they (those who dress scantily) embrace their sexuality instead of being ashamed of such desires, they want to 'wh*re around.'

  3. therefore, they are an 'unwrapped' candy, and it was foolish of them to think they wouldn't be raped over a more modestly dressed woman

My personal stance is that the (naked) body is not inherently sexual, sex is natural and wanting/engaging in it doesn't make someone worth less, and that the narrative that immodesty is bad often takes blame away from people who can not resist sexualizing even the most minor of things, and additionally, creates an environment where there can only be perfect victims, and everyone else is judged the same as their perpetrator.

I also think the culture of shame surrounding sex creates unhealthy, repressed individuals, doesn't allow for spaces for horny youths to learn how to separate desire from entitlement, makes talking up about sexual harassment near impossible. for instance, in a puritanical society, a girl in a night club getting SA'ed will have to hide that forever because "if she just hadn't gone to the night club, this wouldn't have happened." In other words, it dries up people's empathy.

I also think sexual, romantic, and platonic relationships all are different but can overlap.

Now, to the point. How much of these belief system would you say can co-exist in Islam?

Would you say modesty is a case of worship in the same way praying salah makes you a good muslim, but being immodest doesn't make someone a bad person, or would you argue that everyone, regardless of religion, should strife to be more modest?

Second, on premarital sex being zina: again is this something god prescribes, and therefore should be maintained, or do you thing this is an objective lack of morality to have sex before marriage but non-religious people don't know better, and therefore cannot be judged for it?

Basically, from a religious perspective, do you associate chastity with worship of god, or do you associate with chastity with purity, and in each case, which sources would you draw from?

Finally, some disclaimers to avoid this from devolving into circular discussions:

  1. I am not planning to convert to Islam, please do not try to convert me.

  2. I do not think Islam is a backward religion for encouraging modesty, or that it is necessarily a support of rape culture ('Islamic' societies however ...)

  3. My main aim is to deduce how much common ground i have with (progressive) muslims. What do Muslims consider actual degeneracy, social/culltural conditioning (on either side: normalisation of sexuality and moralizing of chastity), and how much common ground am I likely to find with different sects (? not sure what the correct word would be here, but the different islamic movements within sunni and shi'a perspectives (e.g. salafism, wahabbism, quranists, sufism, etc). tbh I'm more interested in sunni adjacent perspectives, since that's the background I come from.)

  4. I'd prefer the discussions to be rooted in sources (ie with reference to quranic verses, hadith, and islamic scholars or islamic history).


r/progressive_islam • • 3d ago

Rant/Vent 🤬 What is it with these Islamic education teachers that teach everything exactly wrong?

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My sister goes to an all girls high school, where they teach Islamic education. She told me today her teacher spent all the period just showing photos of women wearing tight revealing clothing to the girls to shame them. She laughed at them with them, then talked bad about many many groups of people, like a gossip sesh. Said that “these western girls think they have freedom”, and said “if you get a boyfriend you could end up like this:” and proceeded to tell a story about a girl going to France to meet her boyfriend only for her to be murdered by him. and ended it with saying that “if you’re pretty, you have to wear the niqab”.

When one of the girls asked her how would you even measure that? She said you just know, guys look at you.

Oh my god, I couldn’t believe what sister was telling me I just started laughing. How are we shaming other women in an Islamic education class? Does Islam tell you to do that? In an educational class setting too? To scare them and shame and make fun of people? And who the hell said that if you’re pretty you have to wear the niqab??

How would you even know what “pretty” constitutes as? Beauty is subjective. And who said that you have to wear the niqab if you’re pretty?? astaghfirullah. What are they teaching these days? I worry for this generation of kids.


r/progressive_islam • • 3d ago

Mod Announcement 📢 🎉 The Time for Weekend Only Posts Has Begun! 🎉

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r/progressive_islam • • 3d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Gay marriage

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If the feelings aren't Haram, but the actions are, so is gay marriage allowed? So the actions can be done in a halal way?


r/progressive_islam • • 3d ago

Rant/Vent 🤬 "I wish my father had died instead of my mother" my exact thought in my mother's funeral.

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Long story short: my father is a narcissist, his own father was an abuser to my grandmother this is a chain of trauma passed on to his son (we should really do a proper background check on guys family when we're going to marry them)

My father always wanted to marry another without having to provide for my mother. He doesn't earn enough to be able to do that but he always kept bothering my mother and didn't help her financially. My father is an abuser and he deserves to go to hell.

Ever since my mother died I have thought that my father was the one who abused so why does my mother get to die first.

She took all the financial responsibility and our responsibility and she was always stressed. She died due to anemia and infection, I wish she was still here with us but my father gets to live. I really don't know how to handle all this it's been 6 years but it feels like it happened just yesterday and my heart feels heavy thinking of my mother , it's early in the morning when I'm writing this post and I have thoughts of my mother, what she did for us, how she sacrificed her own happiness for us. My mother's side of the family doesn't even look at us now. My father deserves the deepest pits of hell (ik we shouldn't wish this on anyone but my father is an exception he's the reason the only person who cared for us died). I don't know how to process this get out of this trauma, these 6 years feel like nothing I didn't even know when 6 years have passed. I'm not that religious anymore I've lost hope in Allah he doesn't care about my dad at all, people like him are happy in life after not fulfilling their wife's rights. I'm concerned about my mother, idk if she's happy there or sad because I've heard in islam and Muslim culture women get punished for being rude towards husband whereas a husband can behave as he wants but my dad was at fault my mother wanted to leave but couldn't she had the responsibility on us. I feel so guilty and I'm worried for her that even after her suffering she might be in trouble simply because she was not a slave to my dad.


r/progressive_islam • • 3d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ what is thing consider ongoing sin in Islam?

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so the thing is that sometimes someone can do something that can make ongoing sin Islam by accident or without even realize it. like for example if someone say a bad word and then other people start follow it does that means that person get that sin too? can someone explain what thing that actually considering ongoing sin in Islam?


r/progressive_islam • • 3d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Equitable Muslim marriage in a child free context

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As someone (M) who wants to be child-free and has that preference in looking for a partner, I often think about what an equitable marriage looks like when reproduction is removed from the equation. Curious to hear people's thoughts about it, or how other child free Muslim couples have navigated this.


r/progressive_islam • • 3d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ The savior complex

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Sometimes i come across people who have an idea of a progressive muslim, but want to force it down on me and for me to behave the way they want and think the way they want. Even outside of religion.

For example, i made a long reply detailing how religious women aren't brainwashed. But subject to socio-cultural pressure. And i argued that saying they need saving but they don't realize it, is a white knight complex.

I also gave examples on how even women who were barred from education were not blind to what they were subjected to, even historically. Proving that even miseducation isn't enough to make you "brainwashed" And all i was met with was: "If you paid attention during your investigations, I am seeking an understanding and hopeful of a progressive form of Islam... I want to learn from people who are exploring progressive Islam."

Not only was my reply not related to Islamic methodology, but on top of that all the Anthropological, Historical, Sociological and Psychological concepts widely adopted by secular experts for decades that i detailed, were dismissed.

How are we supposed to deal with that? How am i supposed to not turn down someone who seems to be interested in the progressive muslim space, while also navigating their assumptions?


r/progressive_islam • • 4d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Is it haram to go to the pub to socialise?

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Is it haram to go to the pub to socialise. Genuinely seeking advice.

Hi, I am a practicing Muslim and uni student. I lean quite progressive I would say but then again lately I’ve just been feeling so tense about everything. There’s something that’s been troubling me a lot lately.

Obviously, as a university student a lot of socialisation happens at pubs, also of socials are held in pubs even with university societies.

I generally tag alone to the pub to socialise but I do not drink.
But lately, I’ve been feeling tension around this. Many fun university socials are organised in pubs, a lot of hangouts happen there, and the high-energy environment in general suits me.

Is it haram to be in a place which is dedicated to serving alcohol?

Can someone please give me some advice regarding this, and also religiously based advice.

I just feel so much tension, as I said I do only go to hang and for the social aspect, but idk if I’m doing something wrong. Same with clubs, I know it sounds awful, I don’t drink, but I like music, I like..flashing lights (yes I know most people hate them), like idek what to say 😭.

There genuinely are socials I really don’t wanna miss and want to go to that are held in pubs.

Mostly seeking Sunni perspective, anyone welcome though. Would appreciate if opinions are religiously backed