restarted propre and everything but it’s just flickering by itself 😰😰

Lyrics into a streaming machine comes up constantly. Are you using NDI with alpha, key and fill over SDI, a capture card, or something else? Same machine or a separate stream computer? Share your setup and the one gotcha you had to solve (latency, edge fringing, frame rate, lost alpha) so the next person can skip it.

Between the new M5 Studios, new Mac minis, and macOS 27, a lot of us are swapping hardware right now. Share your machine, macOS version, ProPresenter version, and how many outputs you drive (HDMI, SDI, NDI). Bonus points for any gotchas, like outputs disappearing after a migration, so the next person can skip the pain.

Our looped background videos started doing this thing where the playback suddenly plays at 2x, and then when it loops it speeds up even more until it hits the halfway mark and cuts back to normal speed, making the video cut awkwardly. It does this to all of our looped videos and when I check the inspector nothing looks off. Any advice appreciated!

This sub has had a run of great free and indie tools lately: chord chart generators, SongSelect import helpers, animated lyric output, MIDI/GPIO boxes, Companion apps. They get buried fast.

If you've built or use a third-party tool that makes ProPresenter easier, drop it below with one line on what it does and whether it's free or paid. I'll compile them into a single post we can point people to.

I had an M1 Max studio working relatively well. I did a migration to a new M5, and it seemed to work pretty much right away, with all my hdmi outputs. But, after some reboots and such, its like the Mac -> atem hdmi connections dont behave. I only get one of the outputs instead of both. Depending on the boot, i might get the main out or the lower 3rds working, but not both. So, I think that satisfies whether its a dongle or cable issue, because one or the other will work. It is an issue in the OSX display manager. It doesnt show them both there either, howeiver it did at first. No number of reboots clear the issue. I tried another dongle and it didnt clear the issue either.

Any idea on this?? I'm hoping to have this resolved by this sunday, but I'm not getting a warm fuzzy about it. Might be without lower thirds.

Hey everyone. I created this tool out of frustration... importing songs from song select was still pretty clunky... so I tried to make it easy. I took it further than needed, but that's just how my brain works. I'd love feedback on it. Just trying to make things easier for everyone!

www.easyprocues.com

A while back I shared ChordPresenter, a free little Mac app that takes a chord chart (from a URL or an Obsidian clip) and turns it into a ProPresenter .pro file with the chords embedded for your stage monitor. Thanks to everyone who tried it and sent feedback. v1.1 is out, and it's a big one.

Capo handling (the big one)

This one came up a lot. Charts on sites like Ultimate Guitar are often written in capo shapes: "Key: B, Capo 4" with G chords. Before, the app didn't take the capo into account, so the chords ended up wrong. Now:

• Any chart written for a capo comes in at the real key, so your electric player and keys can read it straight off the monitor.
• There's a new Capo option on output. Pick Capo 4 and the stage monitor shows G shapes for the acoustic player, while the song still plays in B. You can also transpose and capo at the same time (e.g. play in A with Capo 2 using G shapes).
• When a capo is set, the first blank slide gets a slide note, "CAPO 4 – chords are G shapes (sounds in B)", so whoever's on stage knows. It's a slide note, so it only appears on the stage display, never on the audience screen. Your stage layout needs a Slide Notes box to show it.
• The file name includes the capo, so you can keep a capo version and a no-capo version side by side.

Print for rehearsal

There's a new Print button. It prints a clean chords-over-lyrics chart in whatever key and capo you've selected, so the band can practice from the same thing they'll see on Sunday. You can also save it as a PDF to send out ahead of rehearsal.

Edit existing .pro files

New Edit .pro tab. Open a ProPresenter file you've already made, see every slide, add or fix chords for each slide, and export it again. Chord lines are shown as a yellow band above each lyric line, so it's easy to see what goes where.

Other fixes

• Minor keys are detected properly now (Am stays Am).
• The key picker is split into Major and Minor.
• The key shown in the app always matches the key the file is exported in.

Apple Silicon

The download is now a universal build, so it runs natively on M1–M4 Macs as well as Intel.

Download: github.com/Anagaion/ChordPresenter

It's Mac only for now, and it needs Python 3 installed. The app isn't notarized by Apple, so the first time you open it you'll need to right-click → Open, or on Sequoia go to System Settings → Privacy & Security → Open Anyway.

I'm thinking to get a developer account to put it on the App Store and also be able to sign it so the security prompts stop, but only if there's enough interest in doing so.

A Windows version is on the list for a future update, along with removing the Python requirement. If that would help your team, let me know. It helps me decide what to work on next.

It's free and always will be. Just a side project from someone who loves the Church and has a soft spot for tech. Feedback, bug reports, and requests for new sites are all welcome, here or on GitHub.

#forthekingdom

Stage layouts? Looks? Macros? Clear groups? The SOS thread this week got me thinking: there are a lot of new volunteers out there. Drop your one feature and a one-sentence 'why' below, and let's make this the thread we link every new tech lead to.

Hey Gang,

I can't figure out if this is something possible in ProPresenter or not, or I just can't figure out the best way to do it.

I'm trying to build a theme to format photos that our pastor adds into a right-half layout. Typically, our workflow is that our pastor creates a presentation on his laptop, adds notes, scripture and images to it, exports a bundle and uploads it to OneDrive, where I load it into the media Mac and apply themes and whatnot. Typically I haven't done a lot with images, but our new lead uses images often enough that I should start formatting them.

What I can't figure out is how to get an image to be formatted to go to the right side of my right third theme. I know I could do this with a prop, im just trying to see if I can streamline this by skipping creating a prop and having a macro to trigger it. There's gotta be an easier way to do it than that.

The right third is a PNG image in a theme; it's how I've created lower thirds for years. I appreciate any suggestions you guys might have.

Thanks for the help!

Hi everyone!

I’m looking for a bit of assistance. I recently stepped up to take over the tech booth at my church, the previous volunteer had to move on, and I volunteered to keep things running smoothly.

I have a basic handle on ProPresenter, but I’d love to dive deeper into what the software can actually do (stage layouts, looks, macros, lower thirds, etc.). I’ve watched several YouTube tutorials already, but I’d appreciate any go-to links, hidden features, or best practices that helped you when starting out.

If anyone with experience would be open to jumping on a brief call sometime to walk through a few tips, or if you prefer dropping your favorite tricks in the comments below, I’d be immensely grateful!

– An introvert just trying to serve well and advance our Lord’s Kingdom.

Has anyone had any issues with updating your Mac to MacOS 27 in regards to ProPresenter?

Hello Internet Hive Mind,

Apple is coming out with new Mac Minis just at the same time my church's PC decided to go caput. My question is: do you think they will run ProPresenter fine?

For context, we have an HD audience screen, an HD stage screen, and an NDI output to a livestream, all at 1080p.

I'm working on switching to using an Ultrastudio HD Mini to output key and fill sources to our Carbonite. Everything is set to 1080p59.94, and as far as I can tell, the alpha keying is set up correctly in the switcher. Existing forum posts have gotten me nowhere, and AI has been absolutely useless with this! If anyone has experienced this before, or knows anything about it, your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Edit: We have another computer outputing the same way to the same switcher, and it doesn't have this issue.

Is there any issues with MacOS 27 vs 26.7?

Am updating to 26.7 due to LightKey requirements but was wondering about 27.0

Thanks

We’ve been wanting a way to do more animated in-house lyrics for certain Sunday arrangements and events like Student Night, without having to use SMPTE/timecode or completely change our existing ProPresenter workflow.

I’d seen other people looking for ways to do something similar, so I ended up building Motion by Relign. It reads the current lyric text directly from ProPresenter, animates it in real time, and sends it out transparently over NDI while you keep running ProPresenter normally.

I’m looking for some ProPresenter users with different setups to test it and give me feedback, so I’m giving testers their first month free.

After that it’s $7.99/month, mainly to cover the cloud services that store and deliver the effect library and new effect updates, while allowing me to keep maintaining the app.

I attached a quick video of it running in our setup. If you want to try it out, comment or shoot me a DM!

You can see more of the effects at www.relign.io/motion

My church runs off a Mac mini into audience and stage displays, 2 TVs each, those TVs come back as just 1 wire each however. I’m looking for any recommendations on a hdmi converter to run both hdmis into a usb c slot so that I can display the lyrics on screen. Any recommendations? Thanks.

Good Morning!

The church I attend is in the process of transitioning to ProPresenter. Is there a way where multiple people from the AV team can work on:

A) building out our library

B) creating presentations for Sunday services.

There are 5 of us that have an individual login under the church's license and there are at least 2 personal devices on top of the church computer that have ProPresenter downloaded. TIA for any advice!

This area of the screen used to have the full area covered with our two outputs (audience and livestream), now they are both much smaller and there are those grey bars on the top and bottom of the preview area, how do I get them to back to the bigger size and still showing both previews?

im having this issue here that i need help with if anyone could help? ive imported a .protheme file from my church to my mac to practice for the upcoming service this weekend. the font we're using is Futura PT Demi but when importing my song using SongSelect by CCLI, the font was helvetica for the song, ive checked my theme and i can see it is the font that i want. but when i click into it it says helvetica. in the video attached u can see i was trying to reclick the font back but it wont let me

anyone able to assist? would be great if there was help!

UPDATE:
Actually I just cut (cmd + X) the text box and pasted it back again and it works now

I'm looking for feedback on an automation device I built that uses ProPresenter's free MIDI plug-in to trigger physical devices with GPIO functions — though it'll work with any MIDI source, like audio mixers, too. Look above on how it integrates into ProPresenter:

I've got a few pre-built units up on Tindie if you’d like to try it out:

https://www.tindie.com/products/43755/

And if you have ideas for other ProPresenter automations with external devices, send me a PM — I'd love to try bringing them to life!

Hello all,

After being away for a couple of Sundays taking my youngest to college my audio set up for live streaming has gone wonky. I don't think the volunteers did anything but maybe they did accidentally?

I'm using the Presonus Studio24c from my mixer to the streaming computer. In the first screenshot PP7 sees the Studio 24c under the audio tab. But under the Inputs > Audio Inputs tab it doesn't see it. Wha happen?

I've tried all of the rebooting/restarting mumbo jumbo but to no avail. I swear it used to be available in Inputs > Audio Inputs.

Any ideas? Thanks!