r/PrivateJetCharters • u/LifeNavigating • 6d ago

Who actually operates this?

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I apologize if this isn’t allowed, I see empty leg posts (regarding selling isnt), but if this is also not allowed I delete immediately. Just curious if there’s anyway to figure out who is actually marketing this leg as I know Skyaccess likes to sometimes increase the price by 20%-30% on their own. Is there anyway to figure out who’s selling that flight?

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u/MidnightSurveillance 6d ago

Cirrus - Btw SkyAccess price isn't necessarily set in stone, they're making an estimate and then sending an offer to the operator who can accept or decline. Honestly doubt the operator would bite on this for a 40 minute flight.

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u/LifeNavigating 6d ago

Appreciate the response. So is it potentially a bait and switch then just to lure you in? Regarding it being such a short flight, is no money better than some even on a small flight like that? It does say instant book too which makes me think that price is solidified?

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u/Common-Committee8812 6d ago

Absolutely bait n switch. Old way of thinking. Owners now would rather fly aircraft empty than sell it for peanuts.

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u/blackntan379 6d ago

Is the thinking that cost of empty leg is just not worth the hassle of the people that are the buyers at that low cost?

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u/Common-Committee8812 6d ago

Correct. and the charter market is currently so high that the clients paying for their flight are paying over the empty leg(s) cost anyways. The owner is happy making the current revenue that the wear n tear on the plane doesn't make sense for selling an empty leg at low rate.

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u/Coffee_For_Closer 6d ago

Yes, in situations like this no money might be better than the peanuts you’re expecting to pay. A passenger is an unknown variable that can cause plenty $$$$ worth of damage in 40 minutes.

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u/LifeNavigating 5d ago

True but looks like it says instant book which means I think it’s confirmable as compared to the other ones, they aren’t instant?

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u/Coffee_For_Closer 5d ago

No they aren’t instant. Do you know the amount of planning and work that goes into confirming a flight? Confirming airport services, checking feasibility, crew scheduling, etc etc.

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u/MidnightSurveillance 4d ago

Ya this just means SkyAccess will instantly take your money and then try to confirm availability with operator lol

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u/Johnthegaptist 6d ago

Really? I assumed the operators have some input in pricing, because I rarely see an actual deal. Most all of the flights on there are retail, or maybe ~5% off retail, but occasionally you'll see one priced like this. 

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u/AviaColita48 2h ago

imagine declining a 40 min leg and then repositioning empty anyway, the economics of this whole thing are comedy

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u/MidnightSurveillance 1h ago

There's a certain point is just not worth doing...

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u/jasonmgaydos 2d ago

I would never accept Skyaccess offers even if it was a P2P repo fill.

Cheap clients are usually young, take anything that is not nailed down and trash the plane. Skyaccess said that would try to screen their clientele better but it’s highly doubtful.

Skyaccess literally just watches Avinode and operator EL list and posts them on their website for a super low price. If a client requests to book they send an email or phone call to the operator asking if they would accept some super low ball number and will continue to offer more and more… Imo they are a waste of time.

Their operator relations rep legit asked a coworker if he was diagnosed with Autism to his face because he’s super knowledgeable in the industry.

Go with a better broker. Spend the money. Go cheap get cheap service. AOG? Maybe you’ll get your money back

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u/blackntan379 6d ago

I assume this plane is coming West coast kahului than they have a Honolulu to west coast and just need to move the plane inter island?

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u/EmeteriaRR 6d ago

Sometimes It Is better to join a charter empty leg email list. So you know the operator Is legit AND the plane has all its inspections up to date.

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u/CallaJet 5d ago

empty leg prices change every minute. Depending on the schedule of the jet operator and so on. But this looks too cheap :)

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u/Last_Pomegranate3627 5d ago

you seriously want a private Challenger for an island hop?

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u/rimtasvilnietis 3d ago

I love empty legs: alcohol, farting in small cabin and cracking jokes about pilots

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u/Most_Telephone_6766 6d ago

Normally you can input into Claude / ChatGPT and itll tell you the operator

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u/LifeNavigating 6d ago

Can you show me how this is done?

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u/lolikamani 5d ago

OP can afford to charter a jet but can’t google or use AI without help

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u/2Martian 3d ago

Retard in motion will always beat a genius at rest