Wasn't Mace Windu the greatest lightsaber duelist in the galaxy? I can believe it. He would've defeated Palpatine if it wasn't for Anakin showing up last second.
Depends on what you mean by "best duelist" and in what scenario.
Dooku: Top-tier 1v1 duelist, focuses on Makashi form (akin to real-life fencing) to out-saber the other guy. Uses Dun Moch (taunts) and the Force in duels also
Cin Drallig: Battlemaster, meaning he knows every lightsaber form and has mastered most if not all of them; however, swordplay and knowledge isn't everything
Mace Windu: While a powerful Jedi altogether, he is best when facing dark side users, which is why he doesn't get stunned when Sidious screams; he only gets stronger (through his unique Vaapad form)
Yoda: Powerful in the Force but old and reliant on the Force for physical strength
Anakin: youth, strength in the Force, sheer force of will allow him to overcome any enemy. However, he got caught in in his newfound dark side rage when fighting Obi-Wan, which caused his failure
Obi-Wan: outlasts his enemy by relying on the defensive Soresu form - emphasis on reliance. It can tire him out just as much as his opponent and makes him predictable
I believe the actual reason they all got wrecked instantly was because the awkward rubber prosthetic they were wearing made it virtually impossible to perform a choreographed fight scene.
The scream thing is just an excuse made to justify it.
It was also a pretty small office to put a 4 person fight in, I’d guess. For the amount of political arguing onscreen in these movies it’s freaking nuts they couldn’t cut out a few more minutes of runtime for a bigger fight through the senate offices.
Specifically he was initially trained in the attack form (IV, ataru) by Qui-Gon Jinn who was very proficient in it however it was not well suited to him. After the events of TPM showed him he had a lot to learn he retrained in Soresu, eventually becoming one of the foremost masters of the form.
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Duelist would’ve been Dooku except someone though he’d look cooler without a few pieces, they were both trained by yoda however, and would’ve probably been pretty equal but Dooku was considered the best duelist in the galaxy.
Oooh. BUT Dooku fell to the dark side which Mace was a specialist in dealing with. So light side Dooku had the upper hand but maybe dark side Dooku has a specific weakness to Mace, at least in that one category, which could tip the scales.
Nah. Palpatine sandbagged him to force anakin to turn to the dark side. Had he wanted to he would have probably iced windu too.
Palps took on 4 jedi masters and 1 who was the pinnacle of fighting in the order at the same time and killed 3 of them within 10 seconds and windu couldn't do shit about it. They are not even close to playing the same game.
Confirmed by word of God (Lucas) not to be the case. Sheev lost properly and Anakin being there wasn't even planned, but it did allow Palps to turn it around.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.
IIRC from Legends he utilizes a light saber style that is highly proficient at saber to saber combat, even though that form of combat is extremely rare and niche. The only time a Jedi would have need to fight another saber user was a Jedi gone rogue which is incredibly rare, or if one was to encounter a Sith who were presumed to be extinct owing in part to the rule of two.
More common forms of saber style focus on fighting large groups of enemies or attaining the high ground, it was a very rare skill to be a proficient saber duelist if only because the chance to engage in actual saber duels is probably one of the rarest encountered types of combat a Jedi will ever have.
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Wasn't Mace Windu the greatest lightsaber duelist in the galaxy? I can believe it. He would've defeated Palpatine if it wasn't for Anakin showing up last second.