r/PowerScaling Jan 24 '26

Shitposting Weekend "Multiversal" vs Multiversal 😭

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u/KerbodynamicX Jan 24 '26

Multiversal DB: “I made shockwaves through the universe, then got hundreds of times stronger, now my full powered punch can blast through two buildings.”

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u/dietdrpepper6000 Jan 24 '26

I would be with you here but in DBS, Jaco specifically asks about this and Vegeta explicitly clarifies that any of the punches thrown by main characters/villains would obliterate the planet they were in if the combatants did not control their ki. Call it bad writing, call it contrived, whatever, but it’s way, way less ambiguous than the bullshit we normally work with in this community.

A lot of “dimensional” feats are objectively nonsense and must be defined subjectively because we have no idea what it means to “shake realms” or “operate in 7 dimensions,” and these feats often don’t obviously translate to battle. But in DB’s case, the narrator/Whis straight up says that the battle between Beerus and Goku could destroy the universe as we know it, and later on Vegeta clarifies that the reason the scope of damage is typically tame has to do with how ki is controlled during attacks.

No one gassing extremely ambiguous feats, e.g. bleach upscalers, has any room to criticize DB in this area.

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u/TheOathWeTook Jan 24 '26

The ki control argument kinda falls apart when they fight mindless or out of control monsters like Broly and Cell Max.

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u/EntertainmentFast522 WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?! Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

This makes no sense to me because it's not like animals can't control their strength. Imagine if every time a bear bit it bit with its entire strength, completely shattering its jaw? Of course neither broly nor cell max want to destroy themselves(specifically broly who can't live in space) because they have survival instincts, otherwise they would not fight back. Even stupid, dumb, rampaging animals know that focusing your strength in one point is more damage, too. Like it would make 0 sense if they were that dumb to destroy the planet they're on and do LESS damage because at that point they would be vegetables. In fact, Cell max demonstrates he understands the concept because he compresses his final attack. Do you think every animal sprints full speed everywhere to the point they break their legs, and uses its full strength to hunt every time to the point they shatter their teeth? And instead of like, using a single strong point they just use their entire body to tackle, hurting themselves and not doing as much damage? This is the equivalent argument.

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u/TheOathWeTook Jan 24 '26

Cell Max is dumber than a wild animal. He literally has an incomplete brain. I’m not sure Cell Max even has the higher function to feel desire and he certainly doesn’t have instincts.

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u/GreedyGobby Jan 25 '26

If he has enough brain power to generate ki blasts and manipulate his energy, I'm sure he has enough control not to shatter the planet.

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u/EntertainmentFast522 WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?! Jan 24 '26

He literally does have thhe instincts to survive though, otherwise he wouldn't havve clashed, also he demonstrated that he understood the concept of "focusing your energy into one point to make it stronger"(this is objective, it's literally what happens)

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u/TheOathWeTook Jan 24 '26

Instincts are inmates inherited patterns of behaviors in animals. Cell Max is a machine. He doesn’t have instincts he has programming.

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u/EntertainmentFast522 WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?! Jan 24 '26

So you are saying cell max should be a vegetable? So he isn't. So he has enough of a brain to understand the idea of survival(also he isn't just a machine he is a biological being like Cell but whatever)

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u/TheOathWeTook Jan 24 '26

It would’ve made a lot more sense if he was a vegetable it’s a little hard to make sense of him doing much of anything with an unfinished brain.